Yeah he would.
I don’t know the extent of how bad it is but if even a quarter of that shit is true, wheeler will not be here.
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Yeah he would.
I don’t know the extent of how bad it is but if even a quarter of that shit is true, wheeler will not be here.
MrAlmost
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I never believed the only reason Trouba wanted off the Jets was because he wanted to play in New York/a big city for his wife.
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Assuming Jones doesn't get traded, if he can win the spot, great, but I'm not expecting it.
Yeah, I've heard all that stuff. I don't know how much truth there is to it, but either way, he'd be coming into a new situation where he isn't the defacto leader. I doubt he'd be a problem, and it's only a 1 year commitment.
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what is utterly shocking to me.... is how many of you do not use Dark Mode.
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It doesn't blow but it's not a Cup winner.
It's almost like it needs more young talent.
MrAlmost
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I think it was a big part of it.
But he likely wanted to play in the US, and he had made it known he wanted to play for the rangers for years. (Had been linked to us for a while). And I think living in wpg likely exasperated the issue. Had they been in Toronto or Vancouver I doubt they’d have rushed to move to a different location.
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Still running with that narrative eh?
That team blows because its basically the same team as last year +Cuylle and Accari (whom you could replace with a better player for LESS than he'll get) and Robertson who hasn't shown anything even resembling being ready for NHL minutes. Motte and Goodrow in the top 9? Thats horrendous.
They can be a good team with out adding more young talent. It would take some pretty significant surgery but it can be done.
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It's what is needed. Not more deadline additions for exhorbitant rental prices.
I mean, if we can add an Eichel or Stone, fine, but we don't have the trade assets or cap space to make a move like that.
Yeah, I agree..... it needs more young talent. And since there's no way to get expensive impact players into the lineup.... time to double down on the youth.
I know you are trying to get rid of the expensive dead weights, you want to move Panarin. Not sure what the issue is with what I'm saying.
Not just Panarin, I wouldn't be against moving one of the younger guys either.
Panarin is the obvious one and if it can happen it should. If not there are still other avenues to being better (and it doesn't need to be young players.) Goodrow and Motte in your top 9 doesn't make you better.
Really my point.
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you do not win with an abundance of young talent. You win with experience. If a 26 year old has 7-8 years experience, great. Those players typically cost a fortune to obtain. We are 'developing' them. btw Jack Eichel on this team would have flopped.
Bottom line IMO, we need a Shea Theodore/Montour type. If there's a move to be made, it's there.
Fill out the rest of the forward group with great skating forecheckers.
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Nah, pretty good and reality. I dont live in a fantasy world that thinks we can move or waive nmc’s
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Fine lineup going into regular season. And I preface this by making you aware that posts like yours are par for the course here where on hfboards 2 things are true.
1) 1st round picks are more valuable than stanley cups
2) only superstars are 1st liners. 1st liners are actually 2nd liners. 2nd liners are 3rd liners. 3rd liners are 4th liners. 4th liners belong in the echl
Goodrow is a 3rd line, motte definitely more of a 4th line type that however can play until the TDL on the 3rd. And trocheck, LOL. Guy had 60+ points, ELITE 3rd line center because frankly hes a 2nd line center
No you live in a fantasy world where you think that roster is good lol.
They could keep all the NMC's and do a better job than that quite easily.
Found this on Frank Seravalli's website
www.dailyfaceoff.com
The link can also be found at the above link. AFP Analytics
Contract projections
Miller has two projections. 2 years and 6 years
$3.65M for 2 years
$4.9M for 6 years
How much for three years? $4M. Dobson
2 year contract projection for Lafreniere. $2.63M
Frank was talking about Kane's hip surgery on his YouTube podcast. He said teams were surprised he went for the hip resurfacing surgery. It's a tough surgery. The track record of players having the surgery and coming back to play at a high level is not very good. Backstrom had the surgery and he struggled at times when he returned. Kesler had it. He never played again. Jovo Cop had it. He didn’t play very long after having the surgery.
Bruins’ Dmitry Orlov climbs to No. 1 on Top 50 Free Agents board
With two other top UFA blueliners signing before making it to market, Orlov is set for a monster pay day.
www.dailyfaceoff.com
The link can also be found at the above link. AFP Analytics
Contract projections
Miller has two projections. 2 years and 6 years
$3.65M for 2 years
$4.9M for 6 years
How much for three years? $4M. Dobson
2 year contract projection for Lafreniere. $2.63M
Frank was talking about Kane's hip surgery on his YouTube podcast. He said teams were surprised he went for the hip resurfacing surgery. It's a tough surgery. The track record of players having the surgery and coming back to play at a high level is not very good. Backstrom had the surgery and he struggled at times when he returned. Kesler had it. He never played again. Jovo Cop had it. He didn’t play very long after having the surgery.
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Found this on Frank Seravalli's website
Bruins’ Dmitry Orlov climbs to No. 1 on Top 50 Free Agents board
With two other top UFA blueliners signing before making it to market, Orlov is set for a monster pay day.
The link can also be found at the above link. AFP Analytics
Contract projections
Miller has two projections. 2 years and 6 years
$3.65M for 2 years
$4.9M for 6 years
How much for three years? $4M. Dobson
2 year contract projection for Lafreniere. $2.63M
Frank was talking about Kane's hip surgery on his YouTube podcast. He said teams were surprised he went for the hip resurfacing surgery. It's a tough surgery. The track record of players having the surgery and coming back to play at a high level is not very good. Backstrom had the surgery and he struggled at times when he returned. Kesler had it. He never played again. Jovo Cop had it. He didn’t play very long after having the surgery.
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LaffyTaffy13
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So lay it out. Only way it gets better is if you move goodrow and then have to figure out who fills that $3.6ish that would come on only one year and not block othmann in 24-25
Way too little cap space and florida isnt moving lomberg at that cap hit. Hes valuable
NYR Viper
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In terms of guys we have discussed, here are some projections from their sheet:
I'm highlighting who I would like from this group based on these cap hits
Acciari - 2 years @ $1.55m
Bertuzzi - 6 years @ $5.32m
Blueger - 2 years @ $1.12m
Brown - 4 years @ 3.33m
Dadonov - 1 year @ $1.92m
Donskoi - 1 year @ 0.775m
Eller - 2 years @ $1.58m
Erne - 2 years @ $1.1m
Fast - 2 years @ $2.35m
Foligno - 1 year @ $1.17m
Frederic - 3 years @ $2.3m
Gurianov - 2 years @ $2.3m
Gustafsson - 3 years @ $3.45m
Hagelin - 1 year @ $0.775m
Halak - 1 year @ $1.12m
Hathaway - 4 years @ $2m
Heinen - 3 years @ $2.48m
Hinostroza - 1 year @ $1.08m
Holden - 1 year @ $0.962m
Hornqvist - 1 year $1.06m
Kampf - 2 years @ $1.8m
Kulikov - 1 year @ $1.7m
Leivo - 1 year @ $0.775m
Lucic - 1 year @ $0.775m
Mikkola - 3 years @ $2.59m
Monahan - 1 year @ $2m
Motte - 1 year $ 1.05m
Nieto - 2 years @ 1.42m
Nosek - 2 years @ $1.255m
Nyquist - 2 years @ $3.233m
Pacioretty - 1 year @ $1.5m
N Ritchie - 1 year @ $1.446m
Rodriguez - 3 years @ $3.75m
Sheary - 3 years @ $3.2m
Tarasenko - 3 years @ $5.1m
Zucker - 5 years @ $5.49m
I'm highlighting who I would like from this group based on these cap hits
Acciari - 2 years @ $1.55m
Bertuzzi - 6 years @ $5.32m
Blueger - 2 years @ $1.12m
Brown - 4 years @ 3.33m
Dadonov - 1 year @ $1.92m
Donskoi - 1 year @ 0.775m
Eller - 2 years @ $1.58m
Erne - 2 years @ $1.1m
Fast - 2 years @ $2.35m
Foligno - 1 year @ $1.17m
Frederic - 3 years @ $2.3m
Gurianov - 2 years @ $2.3m
Gustafsson - 3 years @ $3.45m
Hagelin - 1 year @ $0.775m
Halak - 1 year @ $1.12m
Hathaway - 4 years @ $2m
Heinen - 3 years @ $2.48m
Hinostroza - 1 year @ $1.08m
Holden - 1 year @ $0.962m
Hornqvist - 1 year $1.06m
Kampf - 2 years @ $1.8m
Kulikov - 1 year @ $1.7m
Leivo - 1 year @ $0.775m
Lucic - 1 year @ $0.775m
Mikkola - 3 years @ $2.59m
Monahan - 1 year @ $2m
Motte - 1 year $ 1.05m
Nieto - 2 years @ 1.42m
Nosek - 2 years @ $1.255m
Nyquist - 2 years @ $3.233m
Pacioretty - 1 year @ $1.5m
N Ritchie - 1 year @ $1.446m
Rodriguez - 3 years @ $3.75m
Sheary - 3 years @ $3.2m
Tarasenko - 3 years @ $5.1m
Zucker - 5 years @ $5.49m
zlev
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you're not allowed to criticize my team after your creative genius is paying tyler motte 1.1mil to play on the 3rd line
NYR Viper
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This is using the numbers from that spreadsheet above. I would then waive one of Erne, Hornqvist or Leico to start the season. Whoever plays the worst. That would give the team ~$1.5-1.7m in cap space to start the season + any bonuses that Halak agrees to (assume he gets $800k salary with $200k bonuses) which makes is $1.7-$1.9m in cap space. By mid-year, the team could sign someone like Kane pretty easily once he is healthy
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Well you have to get them when they are 18-20 when they don't cost the fortune to obtain and then develop them.
We are too obsessed with winning in the next 2 years to have done that though.
I also wouldn't mind taking a chance on Kase, I don't know what his injury was but know he missed the season. Could be a good reclamation project for the 3rd line. Also Perry could be a viable vet as a 12/13 F at that projected cap. At the very least he can teach Cuylle, Othmann, Berard the fine art of being a pest. Would JVR be a viable option as 3rd line RW? He played with Lavy in Philly but I would be worried he'd end up the 2nd or 1st line RW because of their history.
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