Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

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I really hope we make some moves, Laviolette isn’t going to take this same roster any further. We have guys like Mika who’s spending his offseason DJ’ing at festivals & eating vegan burgers, he’d miss a game if he had a bad hair day. The teams that go all the way have guys like Tkachuk who try playing with a broken scrotum.
Problem is nobody on the Rangers are willing to put their nuts on the table when the chips are down. No intestinal fortitude to speak of like Tkachuk.
 
How much planning for a cap strapped team does it require though? More money = cool. The mistake is planning as if extra money is going be available when there is no evidence that it will be. Again.
There's always the chance that something happens that negatively impacts revenue, but there's ample evidence to suggest that the cap will rise significantly starting in 2024-25. The most recent revenue numbers are the prime indicator of future revenue. If revenue is X, the cap will be Y.

Outside of the 2012 lockout and the effects of the global pandemic on revenue, the cap has gone up every year. It's not that hard to project where the cap will be (roughly) a year or two down the road.

All of that said, I'd like for the Rangers to be smarter about managing the cap. To do that, they need to be more reliant on the draft, which means they have to do a better job at drafting and stop throwing away draft picks.
 
I really hope we make some moves, Laviolette isn’t going to take this same roster any further. We have guys like Mika who’s spending his offseason DJ’ing at festivals & eating vegan burgers, he’d miss a game if he had a bad hair day. The teams that go all the way have guys like Tkachuk who try playing with a broken scrotum.

Your avatar looks like a broken scrotum.
 
How much planning for a cap strapped team does it require though? More money = cool. The mistake is planning as if extra money is going be available when there is no evidence that it will be. Again.
There IS evidence though. The NUMBERS. It's not mystical, it's math. The escrow WILL be paid off. The planning is obvious: you either make moves to help the team, confident that there will be cap rise as projected, or you do NOT, while everyone else DOES...
 
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There's always the chance that something happens that negatively impacts revenue, but there's ample evidence to suggest that the cap will rise significantly starting in 2024-25. The most recent revenue numbers are the prime indicator of future revenue. If revenue is X, the cap will be Y.

Outside of the 2012 lockout and the effects of the global pandemic on revenue, the cap has gone up every year. It's not that hard to project where the cap will be (roughly) a year or two down the road.

All of that said, I'd like for the Rangers to be smarter about managing the cap. To do that, they need to be more reliant on the draft, which means they have to do a better job at drafting and stop throwing away draft picks.
The evidence that the cap isn’t going up significantly is that it hasn’t yet and they keep saying that it’s going to happen

There IS evidence though. The NUMBERS. It's not mystical, it's math. The escrow WILL be paid off. The planning is obvious: you either make moves to help the team, confident that there will be cap rise as projected, or you do NOT, while everyone else DOES...
Has this happened yet? We’ve been hearing about big increases for years and it simply has not happened
 
The evidence that the cap isn’t going up significantly is that it hasn’t yet and they keep saying that it’s going to happen


Has this happened yet? We’ve been hearing about big increases for years and it simply has not happened
when there’s an active known reason they’ve been keeping the cap artificially low, and that reason ends officially next season (it could’ve ended this season had they had an additional 100m in revenue), and you can do the math to identify how much the cap should be, and it’s significantly lower than it should be.
 
when there’s an active known reason they’ve been keeping the cap artificially low, and that reason ends officially next season (it could’ve ended this season had they had an additional 100m in revenue), and you can do the math to identify how much the cap should be, and it’s significantly lower than it should be.
I don’t need to do math. I see that the cap hasn’t been raised significantly. Nothing to stop the NHL to keeping kicking the can like they have been.
 
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The evidence that the cap isn’t going up significantly is that it hasn’t yet and they keep saying that it’s going to happen


Has this happened yet? We’ve been hearing about big increases for years and it simply has not happened
No it has not happened yet... because it's a PROJECTION. I haven't retired yet either... but I'm GOING to. Also a projection. That is the "oddest" reasoning I've seen. The cap had gone steadily up with revenue. Then COVID hit and there were massive shortfalls that caused escrow issues. That's why no/minimal cap increases since the pandemic. That issue will be resolved during the next season, and the NUMBERS say the cap will rise significantly. Again, this isn't voodoo or hope, it's math. No one said it was going to increase before next season. And if, say, NYR and LA had been in the SCF, it might have been resolved this year. Instead it was a Final that wasn't watched and didn't up the revenue stream enough, so 24-25 it is.

I don’t need to do math. I see that the cap hasn’t been raised significantly. Nothing to stop the NHL to keeping kicking the can like they have been.
Yes there is something to stop them from kicking the can: a CONTRACT. They were within their rights not to raise it yet. In 24-25 they will NOT be within their rights.
 
No it has not happened yet... because it's a PROJECTION. I haven't retired yet either... but I'm GOING to. Also a projection. That is the "oddest" reasoning I've seen. The cap had gone steadily up with revenue. Then COVID hit and there were massive shortfalls that caused escrow issues. That's why no/minimal cap increases since the pandemic. That issue will be resolved during the next season, and the NUMBERS say the cap will rise significantly. Again, this isn't voodoo or hope, it's math. No one said it was going to increase before next season. And if, say, NYR and LA had been in the SCF, it might have been resolved this year. Instead it was a Final that wasn't watched and didn't up the revenue stream enough, so 24-25 it is.


Yes there is something to stop them from kicking the can: a CONTRACT. They were within their rights not to raise it yet. In 24-25 they will NOT be within their rights.
And again, nothing to stop NHL to keep kicking the fan on this. It’s wishful thinking until proven otherwise. What happens if we get a (for example) VGK x FLA rematch next year? Onto 25/26?

The onus is on the NHL to show that they will do it. They haven’t done it yet
 
There are going to be teams out there who will be looking for good veteran players to help facilitate their rebuild and young players development. Just because teams have cap space doesn’t mean they can sign UFA’s or the UFA’s they want who they think will fit in with their vision.

Goodrow’s contract is not really that bad for a team with cap space. He’s paid like a good 3rd liner which he is. His production and utilization is right in line with that.

Just look at what Athanasiou just got from Chicago. Are you telling me Goodrow’s contract is worse than that for what he brings?
 
And again, nothing to stop NHL to keep kicking the fan on this. It’s wishful thinking until proven otherwise. What happens if we get a (for example) VGK x FLA rematch next year? Onto 25/26?

The onus is on the NHL to show that they will do it. They haven’t done it yet
I mean there’s a contract. That’s what stops the nhl from doing anything but raise the cap.
The cba demands that the cap raises in 24-25.
 
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There are going to be teams out there who will be looking for good veteran players to help facilitate their rebuild and young players development. Just because teams have cap space doesn’t mean they can sign UFA’s or the UFA’s they want who they think will fit in with their vision.

Goodrow’s contract is not really that bad for a team with cap space. He’s paid like a good 3rd liner which he is. His production and utilization is right in line with that.

Just look at what Athanasiou just got from Chicago. Are you telling me Goodrow’s contract is worse than that for what he brings?
I don't think they're comparable.

He's a plug for 2 seasons for a lottery team. They need to get to the floor.

We're a cup contending team and the guy provides very little at a $3.6M cap hit. It's a detriment. Cap space has insane value right now
 
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And again, nothing to stop NHL to keep kicking the fan on this. It’s wishful thinking until proven otherwise. What happens if we get a (for example) VGK x FLA rematch next year? Onto 25/26?

The onus is on the NHL to show that they will do it. They haven’t done it yet
You are totally ignoring that there is a binding leagl contract and the Players Association has access to the books and very fine accountants. Again, its contractual math. If the NHL wanted to not raise it in 24-25 they'd need to demonstrate why with numbers that dont demonstrate that... It's going up.
 
Goodrow was vastly overpaid at the time of his signing and that has only been reinforced with his play as a Ranger. His point production looks respectable but the guy has gotten a lot of time on the top-2 lines which has inflated his totals. Not to mention he still has 4 more years on his contract which is a definitely a negative. If you can find a team to dump him off on you do it no questions asked.
 
Goodrow was vastly overpaid at the time of his signing and that has only been reinforced with his play as a Ranger. His point production looks respectable but the guy has gotten a lot of time on the top-2 lines which has inflated his totals. Not to mention he still has 4 more years on his contract which is a definitely a negative. If you can find a team to dump him off on you do it no questions asked.
I think we can get a 4th for him from a team like Buffalo or Detroit.
 
You are totally ignoring that there is a binding leagl contract and the Players Association has access to the books and very fine accountants. Again, its contractual math. If the NHL wanted to not raise it in 24-25 they'd need to demonstrate why with numbers that dont demonstrate that... It's going up.
I am. Because I will believe it when I see it. I haven’t seen it, so I don’t believe it
 
Your checking line:

Kreider-Trocheck-Vesey

They won pretty much every matchup they had, all play with speed, all forecheck well, all play great defense, all have offensive ability. It is THE line to start with, and the rest shakes out around it. This line will not lose many head to heads.
I'm down with anything that separates Mika and Kreider.
 
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