Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[jerseyjinx94]

Arizona has time on their side. There's no reason for them to do anything unless they get an offer that's outstanding. Laf straight up for Cooley ain't that.

Agreed. That's why I was suggesting Chytil may be a fit in the move.

I'm not looking to trade Chytil, but I would consider it in a move for a guy like Cooley.

 

[Daves a mess]

Laf to VAN for Garland & 11

Laf to ARZ for the right to Cooley

If either were presented to me as GM, I’d have to really think about it

There aren't enough "millis" in a second before I'd do Laf for Cooley.

 

[haohmaru]

Agreed. That's why I was suggesting Chytil may be a fit in the move.

I'm not looking to trade Chytil, but I would consider it in a move for a guy like Cooley.

Probably would take Chytil, 23OA, and Jones and that's if AZ knows he's not signing there and if they're impatient. They have no reason to be.

 

[bernmeister]

Probably would take Chytil, 23OA, and Jones and that's if AZ knows he's not signing there and if they're impatient. They have no reason to be.

general agree
see my earlier post about a package where we keep Chytil but still give assets that arguably fit for AZ

 

[SA16]

Hey Fellas, just don't want to drag this out about ignored users, it should not be made public if you are ignoring someone. But I had to explain the situation for Tom.

All major threads should probably be started by a mod to avoid situations like this.

 

[haohmaru]

general agree
see my earlier post about a package where we keep Chytil but still give assets that arguably fit for AZ

It's all a pipe dream at this point - the kid said he wanted to stay in college and finally win a championship. From what I read, the question kind of steered him into saying the situation in Arizona played a part in the decision but I gathered that it's more about winning an NCAA championship than it is about refusing to play for the Coyotes. This has, probably, at least another year+ to play out and likely a big nothing burger that will never turn into Cooley being a New York Ranger.

 

[RGY]

I like the idea of selling Miller to recoup draft pick assets. I think there would be a ton of interest and you recoup that level of draft picks for him. I would take the saved money and bring back Tarasenko and Mikkola. Tarasenko may be looking for $5.5-$6 but maybe he shaves off some numbers for a discount to stay in a place he loved and with his buddy.

You can roll with Zac Jones or sign a cheap LHD for the 3rd pair. Or both, the Vet being insurance. I dont want to see Harpur as that cheap LHD.

Othmann slides in at 3RW and provides some of that edge we are looking for.

Cuylle gets promoted. I would love to have Motte back as insurance there but likely cannot afford the luxury of both. Maybe Cuylle starts in the AHL and Motte has that spot.

Acciari and Raanta are interchangeable with other free agent options. Whomever comes at the best price. There is also the option of Domingue but that is not a reliable option and you can get a backup in FA at a reasonable price.

The last portion is Kane and LTIR him. I think you can get him at that AAV. I admittedly don’t know how the cap implications would workout. Are the Rangers banking space daily so that when Kane is ready in what sounds like will be January, will the Rangers have accrued cap space to add him. He would bump someone down. Maybe Othmann goes to the AHL to finish the season.

There is maneuverability if the Rangers want to pursue certain avenues.

 

[McRanger92]

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I like the idea of selling Miller to recoup draft pick assets. I think there would be a ton of interest and you recoup that level of draft picks for him. I would take the saved money and bring back Tarasenko and Mikkola. Tarasenko may be looking for $5.5-$6 but maybe he shaves off some numbers for a discount to stay in a place he loved and with his buddy.

You can roll with Zac Jones or sign a cheap LHD for the 3rd pair. Or both, the Vet being insurance. I dont want to see Harpur as that cheap LHD.

Othmann slides in at 3RW and provides some of that edge we are looking for.

Cuylle gets promoted. I would love to have Motte back as insurance there but likely cannot afford the luxury of both. Maybe Cuylle starts in the AHL and Motte has that spot.

Acciari and Raanta are interchangeable with other free agent options. Whomever comes at the best price. There is also the option of Domingue but that is not a reliable option and you can get a backup in FA at a reasonable price.

The last portion is Kane and LTIR him. I think you can get him at that AAV. I admittedly don’t know how the cap implications would workout. Are the Rangers banking space daily so that when Kane is ready in what sounds like will be January, will the Rangers have accrued cap space to add him. He would bump someone down. Maybe Othmann goes to the AHL to finish the season.

There is maneuverability if the Rangers want to pursue certain avenues.

I stopped after you said sell Miller to recoup draft picks. He’s 23.

 

[zlev]

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I like the idea of selling Miller to recoup draft pick assets. I think there would be a ton of interest and you recoup that level of draft picks for him. I would take the saved money and bring back Tarasenko and Mikkola. Tarasenko may be looking for $5.5-$6 but maybe he shaves off some numbers for a discount to stay in a place he loved and with his buddy.

You can roll with Zac Jones or sign a cheap LHD for the 3rd pair. Or both, the Vet being insurance. I dont want to see Harpur as that cheap LHD.

Othmann slides in at 3RW and provides some of that edge we are looking for.

Cuylle gets promoted. I would love to have Motte back as insurance there but likely cannot afford the luxury of both. Maybe Cuylle starts in the AHL and Motte has that spot.

Acciari and Raanta are interchangeable with other free agent options. Whomever comes at the best price. There is also the option of Domingue but that is not a reliable option and you can get a backup in FA at a reasonable price.

The last portion is Kane and LTIR him. I think you can get him at that AAV. I admittedly don’t know how the cap implications would workout. Are the Rangers banking space daily so that when Kane is ready in what sounds like will be January, will the Rangers have accrued cap space to add him. He would bump someone down. Maybe Othmann goes to the AHL to finish the season.

There is maneuverability if the Rangers want to pursue certain avenues.

yikes batman

 

[RGY]

I stopped after you said sell Miller to recoup draft picks. He’s 23.

So there is absolutely no entertaining trading Miller, who has clear braindead moments defensively that may never be course corrected in his development, for high drafts picks, specifically a 1st round pick in one of the deepest drafts in two decades, and then repurposing that money in other areas? This isn’t Adam Fox coming off a Norris Trophy season.

yikes batman

Yikes batman? Please elaborate rather than providing some dramatic response. Especially when there isn’t some major shakeup to where we left off at the end of the playoffs.

 

[MrAlmost]

This may be to our advantage. Maybe Florida thinks they need more offensive ability with this beating. They look like they have nothing if Tkachuk isn't in the lineup. We have a nice shiny Panarin. They have Duke and Knight that they can clear. You never know.

 

[Guyute]

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I like the idea of selling Miller to recoup draft pick assets. I think there would be a ton of interest and you recoup that level of draft picks for him. I would take the saved money and bring back Tarasenko and Mikkola. Tarasenko may be looking for $5.5-$6 but maybe he shaves off some numbers for a discount to stay in a place he loved and with his buddy.

You can roll with Zac Jones or sign a cheap LHD for the 3rd pair. Or both, the Vet being insurance. I dont want to see Harpur as that cheap LHD.

Othmann slides in at 3RW and provides some of that edge we are looking for.

Cuylle gets promoted. I would love to have Motte back as insurance there but likely cannot afford the luxury of both. Maybe Cuylle starts in the AHL and Motte has that spot.

Acciari and Raanta are interchangeable with other free agent options. Whomever comes at the best price. There is also the option of Domingue but that is not a reliable option and you can get a backup in FA at a reasonable price.

The last portion is Kane and LTIR him. I think you can get him at that AAV. I admittedly don’t know how the cap implications would workout. Are the Rangers banking space daily so that when Kane is ready in what sounds like will be January, will the Rangers have accrued cap space to add him. He would bump someone down. Maybe Othmann goes to the AHL to finish the season.

There is maneuverability if the Rangers want to pursue certain avenues.

1) Goodrow will never waive for Arizona
2) Miller will need to return more than a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. 12th overall isn’t good enough for a sure fire top 4 D that just scored over 40 points with no PP time and is only 23.
3) That D corps is atrocious

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

I don't think it'll be Miller for picks, but I like the out of the box aspect of it - I would be surprised if the only things they do are hire the obvious retread coach and shuffle out Barclay Goodrow for a cheaper fourth liner.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Lindgren is the guy you sell high on if you're trading a defenseman to recoup picks.

 

[McRanger92]

So there is absolutely no entertaining trading Miller, who has clear braindead moments defensively that may never be course corrected in his development, for high drafts picks, specifically a 1st round pick in one of the deepest drafts in two decades, and then repurposing that money in other areas? This isn’t Adam Fox coming off a Norris Trophy season.


Yikes batman? Please elaborate rather than providing some dramatic response. Especially when there isn’t some major shakeup to where we left off at the end of the playoffs.

You don’t trade a 23 year old top 4 LHD for draft picks. I’m not exactly going out on a limb there

 

[NYR Viper]

This may be to our advantage. Maybe Florida thinks they need more offensive ability with this beating. They look like they have nothing if Tkachuk isn't in the lineup. We have a nice shiny Panarin. They have Duke and Knight that they can clear. You never know.

Reinhardt + Knight + FLA 1st ‘24

Trade Reinhardt to Dallas for their 1st ‘23

Sign Kane, Bertuzzi and trade for Garland.

Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kaako
Kreider-Chytil-Garland
Bertuzzi-Trochek-Kane
Motte-Acciari-Vesey

Miller-Fox
Jones-Trouba
Lindgren-Schneider

Shesty
Domingue

Knight on LTIR or substance abuse if not there yet

 

[McRanger92]

Rangers need another top 6 RW to slot behind Kakko.

Either Panarin or Laf switches sides or one gets dealt for a RW. It’s highly unlikely it’s Panarin so I really think Laf is bait for that type of player.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Reinhardt + Knight + FLA 1st ‘24

Trade Reinhardt to Dallas for their 1st ‘23

Sign Kane, Bertuzzi and trade for Garland.

Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kaako
Kreider-Chytil-Garland
Bertuzzi-Trochek-Kane
Motte-Acciari-Vesey

Miller-Fox
Jones-Trouba
Lindgren-Schneider

Shesty
Domingue

Knight on LTIR or substance abuse if not there yet

We acquired Dallas’s 1st in 23 for Lundkvist and then sent it to St Louis for Tarasenko/Mikkola. Florida has no 1st in 2024.

 

[17futurecap]

Lindgren is the guy you sell high on if you're trading a defenseman to recoup picks.

Someone send Lavi the video of when Miller and Fox were on the ice together late in games with the Rangers having the puck constantly in the offensive zone.

A Miller/Fox top pair would dominate teams, praying we get it.

 

[McRanger92]

Someone send Lavi the video of when Miller and Fox were on the ice together late in games with the Rangers having the puck constantly in the offensive zone.

A Miller/Fox top pair would dominate teams, praying we get it.

Miller-Fox
Lindgren-Schneider
Robertson-Trouba

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Miller-Fox
Lindgren-Schneider
Robertson-Trouba

Ehhhhhh

 

[McRanger92]

Ehhhhhh

Big defense wins in the playoffs. All 6 will look much better playing within a system

 

[RGY]

You don’t trade a 23 year old top 4 LHD for draft picks. I’m not exactly going out on a limb there

I kinda think youre making a lot of more of Miller than what he is or may be down the line. Dont get me wrong, I think he is a good player but he certainly has his limitations in his own end and if you can add multiple 1st and 2nd round picks and repurpose the money elsewhere, how is that egregious? Maybe you have a top prospect added and then there is better grounds for a conversation? Because I look at it as Miller for Tarasenko, Mikkola, 2023 1st round pick which likely becomes your #1 prospect in your system, plus whatever else you get for Miller, which could be a top prospect a year or less away from cracking a lineup.

 

[huerter]

There are two things Lav has to do and one of them is keep Fox and Lindgren together.

 

[McRanger92]

I kinda think youre making a lot of more of Miller than what he is or may be down the line. Dont get me wrong, I think he is a good player but he certainly has his limitations in his own end and if you can add multiple 1st and 2nd round picks and repurpose the money elsewhere, how is that egregious? Maybe you have a top prospect added and then there is better grounds for a conversation? Because I look at it as Miller for Tarasenko, Mikkola, 2023 1st round pick which likely becomes your #1 prospect in your system, plus whatever else you get for Miller, which could be a top prospect a year or less away from cracking a lineup.

You don’t have to agree on Miller but they didn’t hire Peter Laviolette to trade 23 year old NHL players for draft picks. Idc how “generational” the draft is. Miller is projecting as a Sergachev/Theodore type LD. Drury should be fired if he made a trade like that