Roster Building Thread V (2022-23): Cheese and WINE

[RangerBoy]

Keep Kane off this f***ing team please. We dont need him and his panarin like bullshit. I dont care that hes playing on one hip or that he only wants to play for us and will sign for dirt cheap. Hes addition by subtraction with his play.

I would take Kane for one year and $1M AAV.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

The problem with Laf is that he’s a huge offer sheet target. The Rangers need to lock him up before that window opens.

 

[Boris Zubov]

The problem with Laf is that he’s a huge offer sheet target. The Rangers need to lock him up before that window opens.

Honestly, if anyone comes at him with a 'huge" offersheet, I'm ok with not matching & taking the draft pick compensation.

 

[haohmaru]

Honestly, if anyone comes at him with a 'huge" offersheet, I'm ok with not matching & taking the draft pick compensation.

And two years later he'll have an 80 point season and you'll be asking what you were thinking.

 

[Boris Zubov]

And two years later he'll have an 80 point season and you'll be asking what you were thinking.

Maybe, but if someone came to you with 2 mid 1st rounders right now for Laf would you take them?

With the low odds of him ever hitting 80 points, I'm making that deal.

 

[Fitzy]

Honestly, if anyone comes at him with a 'huge" offersheet, I'm ok with not matching & taking the draft pick compensation.

The trick is that it might not be that much in compensation. If it’s multiple firsts? Sure

But it’s only a 2nd rounder all the way up to 4 million and I don’t think that’s enough for me to run

 

[Boris Zubov]

The trick is that it might not be that much in compensation. If it’s multiple firsts? Sure

Any "Huge" RFA offer would have multiple firsts as compensation, would it not?

 

[haohmaru]

Maybe, but if someone came to you with 2 mid 1st rounders right now for Laf would you take them?

With the low odds of him ever hitting 80 points, I'm making that deal.

Upcoming draft? I'd think about it.

2024? Nope.

Likely, though, I'd pass. The guy is too young and cap hit will be reasonable. I wouldn't part with him.

 

[Boris Zubov]

The trick is that it might not be that much in compensation. If it’s multiple firsts? Sure

But it’s only a 2nd rounder all the way up to 4 million and I don’t think that’s enough for me to run

You edited your post after I initially replied. $4 isn't a "huge" offer & I doubt that's enough to lure him away...he seems to really like it here. Even so, I would match that offer if I'm the Rangers.

 

[17futurecap]

Any "Huge" RFA offer would have multiple firsts as compensation, would it not?

2,100,743-4,201,488 costs a 2 round pick

4,201,489-6,302,230 costs a first and a third

Can’t imagine anyone going higher on Laf if he did sign one.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Upcoming draft? I'd think about it.

2024? Nope.

Likely, though, I'd pass. The guy is too young and cap hit will be reasonable. I wouldn't part with him.

That's fair. Looking at the offer sheet compensation chart, it's highly unlikely that any team is going to come to Laf with an offer high enough for 2 first rounders as compensation.

2,100,743-4,201,488 costs a 2 round pick

4,201,489-6,302,230 costs a first and a third

Can’t imagine anyone going higher on Laf if he did sign one.

Yeah I was just typing the above reply as you quoted me. I agree, but the Rangers would have a cap decision to make if someone offers Laf $6m.

 

[IDvsEGO]

That's fair. Looking at the offer sheet compensation chart, it's highly unlikely that any team is going to come to Laf with an offer high enough for 2 first rounders as compensation.

Yeah I was just typing the above reply as you quoted me. I agree, but the Rangers would have a cap decision to make if someone offers Laf $6m.

Its interesting because I could see a team that's ready to get out of the rebuild phase, grabbing laf and locking him up at like 8 years 6m and losing a 1st and a 3rd. Like the ducks? If they sit in the top 3 of this draft, adding laf to zegras,bedard/fantilli, and mctavish?
I could easily see that being a smart move. Because as much as we're down on laf, I dont see the rangers getting the kind of potential we have in laf, with a mid-late first round player in the following draft.

 

[effen]

Its interesting because I could see a team that's ready to get out of the rebuild phase, grabbing laf and locking him up at like 8 years 6m and losing a 1st and a 3rd. Like the ducks? If they sit in the top 3 of this draft, adding laf to zegras,bedard/fantilli, and mctavish?
I could easily see that being a smart move. Because as much as we're down on laf, I dont see the rangers getting the kind of potential we have in laf, with a mid-late first round player in the following draft.

Laf wouldn't sign 8/48 so that's not a concern.

 

[haohmaru]

That's fair. Looking at the offer sheet compensation chart, it's highly unlikely that any team is going to come to Laf with an offer high enough for 2 first rounders as compensation.

Yeah I was just typing the above reply as you quoted me. I agree, but the Rangers would have a cap decision to make if someone offers Laf $6m.

Still want to get rid of him after that goal? LOL.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Still want to get rid of him after that goal? LOL.

I never said I wanted to get rid of him... I was following up someone's post worrying about an offer sheet. All I said is if we're getting 2 first rounders back, I'm not matching. I'm not actively running him out of town.

 

[haohmaru]

I never said I wanted to get rid of him... I was following up someone's post worrying about an offer sheet. All I said is if we're getting 2 first rounders back, I'm not matching. I'm not actively running him out of town.

Was a joke. Relax. Not accusing you of that in the least.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Was a joke. Relax. Not accusing you of that in the least.

I'm relaxed. It's Sunday & I'm drinking a beer watching hockey.

 

[irishlaxburger2]

All of our RFAs are going to produce through the roof these last few games huh?

 

[haohmaru]

All of our RFAs are going to produce through the roof these last few games huh?

They want to complicate the summer as much as possible. Mission: Accomplished

 

[McRanger92]

The kids should all sign discounted extensions like Filip imo

 

[IDvsEGO]

I never said I wanted to get rid of him... I was following up someone's post worrying about an offer sheet. All I said is if we're getting 2 first rounders back, I'm not matching. I'm not actively running him out of town.

2 first that sit in the middle of the first are not going to give us a player near as good as him.

 

[mike14]

2 first that sit in the middle of the first are not going to give us a player near as good as him.

The draft is a total crapshoot, but depending on how you define 'middle', and just using Rangers forward picks, you could have any 2 of Chytil, Kreider and JT Miller. Laf should continue to grow, but that'd be a pretty decent return
You could also draft the next Krav and Andersson though...

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Its interesting because I could see a team that's ready to get out of the rebuild phase, grabbing laf and locking him up at like 8 years 6m and losing a 1st and a 3rd. Like the ducks? If they sit in the top 3 of this draft, adding laf to zegras,bedard/fantilli, and mctavish?
I could easily see that being a smart move. Because as much as we're down on laf, I dont see the rangers getting the kind of potential we have in laf, with a mid-late first round player in the following draft.

The only proper response in that situation for the Rangers if they legitimately could not pull the gymnastics to match would be to offer sheet every valuable Ducks RFA for the next decade at +25% market value - ESPECIALLY Zegras who's a Bedford boy from a family full of Ranger fans so that organization would vomit like Kings fans hearing the words Marty McSorley's stick every time they heard the words RFA or offer sheet for the next 100 years.

Plus I highly doubt Laf wants to go from contending for a Cup with a group of guys he really seems to get along with to playing in a place that is nothing like his home or anything he's familiar with on a team without a single plus player that lets in almost 4 goals a game.

 

[Chytilmania]

Maybe, but if someone came to you with 2 mid 1st rounders right now for Laf would you take them?

With the low odds of him ever hitting 80 points, I'm making that deal.

Mika didn’t hit 80 until (we’ll count COVID year) age 26, then 28 and 29, but I don’t think anyone would have gave him up for two mid 1sts.

If Laf or Kakko get moved it has to be for a younger prospect not a draft pick who isn’t playing for 2-4 years.

I think only way this convo continues is if one shits the bed in the playoffs or one goes off and we can’t afford everyone.

 

[RangerBoy]

Upcoming draft? I'd think about it.

2024? Nope.

Likely, though, I'd pass. The guy is too young and cap hit will be reasonable. I wouldn't part with him.

It would have to be a team like Montreal which has two first round picks in this draft. Their pick and Florida's pick. Assuming Montreal doesn’t win the draft lottery, how much do they value the other players in the top 4-5 picks? We don’t know where Montreal is picking. The Florida pick will be a late lottery pick/#17 pick depending upon how they finish this season.

Montreal has Suzuki and Dach in the middle? Are they taking another center?

Detroit has two first round picks. Their pick and the Islanders pick from Horvat and Hronek. Raymond? The Wings pick is currently 9th which isn’t that great.

Anaheim has depth at center. If they don't the lottery, will Verbeek take another center? Anaheim doesn’t have a 2nd 1st round pick.

Sign Lafreniere. Two years. $3M AAV. Maybe it's a one year contract. The cap will increase for sure in 2024. Try to make it work next season with Panarin and Kreider. The Rangers trade Kreider next summer when his NMC becomes a 15 limited NTC. Kreider will have $15M remaining in actual cash. Three years remaining. He had another quality season. 33 goals. 7 PPG. 4 SHG. If the Rangers give Lafreniere more TOI, that will take more time away from Kreider. The Rangers want/need Kreider to continue being a productive player in order to trade him. The salary cap should be $88M that summer. It will be tough to trade Kreider because he is a very good Ranger.