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If 2nd assists were awarded by subjective contribution to a goal rather than automatically granted to the 2nd passer, Kreider would have many more points in his career.
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although it feels like he's not tilting the ice as much as he once used to. He dialed the knob a little bit towards finesse instead of the straight forwards, 'this is my ice' routine utilizing his speed/power...
You could argue he found the sweet spot this season, mixing both styles. I still think he could dial it a tad bit more towards the 'power-speed' side
His struggles, if you want to call it that, have been on the PP. He could easily be at 40+ goals this season IMO
Shesterkybomb
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Kreider is both frustrating and consistant somehow all rolled into one. I think everyone looks at his speed, size and shot and believes he could be better but he's a 30+ goal scorer and thats not bad and he is paid accordingly and maybe even underpaid. I had a coach one time talking about one of the players on a team i was on one time and he just said "As much as we want him to be better, what he is is pretty good and I think that's just what he is, so maybe we should all lay off him a bit and let him play". I always think of these words when Kreider comes up.
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They actually did have an insane amount of chemistry, always finding each other somehow through traffic with passes, they'd play catch all around the offensive zone. Anisimov was a good center for them because he played straight lines and opened a lot of lanes and created space for them.
A big thing that was different back then, aside from Panarin being a rookie so nobody knew his game yet, was that Panarin was the trigger man far more often then compared to now. Scored 30+ goals both seasons with Kane he was a constant one timer threat all game and he didn't hesitate to let it fly.
The reason it doesn't work anymore (or yet?) is because Panarin is a different player now than he was then - his game has evolved. He's the focal point when he's on the ice, he needs the puck on his stick - which Kane does as well. If they do end up finding some chemistry now it will be different than it was in Chicago, though I don't think I'd shut the door on them possibly rekindling something. But yeah, they did have legitimate chemistry back in Chicago.
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What I really want to see is Schneider-Lindgren getting at least 18 mins a night and keeping the entire D fresh for the PO slog. That's a damn fine 3D pairing and Lindgren's smarts would help Schneider get better, more so than any partner he's had so far.
Confidence is a big factor. The kids are 3rd options on the Rangers. Time to remove the huggies and the training wheels. No matter what they do, they will receive more time than the more expensive veteran players.
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The Kid Line was absolutely rolling prior to the deadline. Best line the Rangers had. Then in came Tank and Kane. You want the deepest lineup possible, and you want the Kids to thrive against lesser competition, but there is an undeniable human element here. Frustrating but true.
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Can this narrative that the Kids are "blocked" go away? First of all, it doesn't even matter when you're trying to have your best 12 forwards out there and everyone has winning as the one goal in mind. Second, Chytil could easily be pushing 30 goals as our 3rd line center with a little more puck luck; he's certainly had the chances. Same goes for Lafreniere and Kakko, who could easily be pushing 20 goals each. Idk how anyone isn't happy with where they and the team are. Complaining to complain at this point.
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They are definitely getting more ice time than last year and early this year, that's for sure. But they were absolutely limited the last 2 years.
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I guess. Kakko & Chytil battled injuries all of last year (a part of maturing as a player) and Laffy scored 19 ES goals as a 20 year old. It's just been the natural progression of 3 players who aren't being asked to do anything above their capabilities and it's working.
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Don't understand what's there still to complain about. Kids are treated the same way as the top vets. All three top lines now compete for ES minutes based on which one is going on a particular night. Throughout this season Gallant showed his trust in kids giving them more minutes over vets if they play better. Also notable is that the lines are set at the moment. Yes, if the "set" combination is underwhelming Gallant will try to find a spark by moving certain pieces - like switching Kreider and Panarin - but afterwards he returns to what he thinks is the best combination.
The only thing that is not fully set is PP where Gallant still trying to figure out if two even units or a loaded 1PP (and "leftovers" 2PP) is his preference..
The only thing that is not fully set is PP where Gallant still trying to figure out if two even units or a loaded 1PP (and "leftovers" 2PP) is his preference..
It's not about the kids anymore at this point of the season. It's about the team. Whichever line has the hot hand in the playoffs is going to get the ice time.
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Staple said in his article he posted today he thinks one of the kids have to be traded this summer. Specifically mentions Laf as the most probably
why trade/buyout Goodrow who's been relegated to the 4th line when you can just trade our 1st OA pick... makes sense
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That makes sense. With more than enough cap space to resign him we should trade him instead because, let me guess, "opportunity"?
Staple isn't a moron, which is what makes this more frustrating, cause he said it on purpose. Asshole.
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If one of the kids were traded, it wouldn't be for nothing.
I think it would be more about a more permanent fix at RW, if anything, which is why Laf is the most likely.
I think it would be more about a more permanent fix at RW, if anything, which is why Laf is the most likely.
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why?
edit - just read it... A fan mailbag asks the question if one of the RFAs were to be traded, who..
this is nothing...
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Yeah, I mean it is dumb.
Lafreniere is certainly not untouchable, but since they'd never get value for him, and they don't need to trade him... he's not going anywhere.
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Just send Goodrow back to San Jose. They're moving Karlsson this summer. You've got basically Couture and Hertl as the only veterans up front. The remaining guys are just that, another guy. I'm sure Quinn would love Goodrow. Grier and Drury connection. Can talk up what Goodrow brought to the room in NY. They've got a bunch of young guys, so there is plenty of opportunity to help out.
We won't need that anymore. If we have another long run (hopefully ending with a cup), you're entire roster will have 40+ playoff games under their belts. His leadership isn't needed anymore.
We won't need that anymore. If we have another long run (hopefully ending with a cup), you're entire roster will have 40+ playoff games under their belts. His leadership isn't needed anymore.
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Yup. If there is a roster player being traded it is very likely Goodrow and his 3.6 mil cap hit. Hopefully some of that money saved can allow us to sign Tarasenko.
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This is where my head has been at for well over a month now. San Jose makes a lot of sense. They bring in Goodrow to help bridge the gap of contention and use him as a trade piece in a few years to bring in more pieces.
Sure. But alot of us saw exactly what happened last playoffs.
The kids were running a hot hand, maybe not huge production, but they were dominating puck possesion, and then strome got hurt, and kakko for some reason got scratched for hunt.
We have to stop with this whole Kids verse Vets narrative. It's ONE TEAM.
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