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Roster Building Thread V (2022-23): Cheese and WINE

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I always thought it was funny that Kane and Panarin had chemistry in Chicago since they're basically the same player on opposite wings, with some minor distinctions (Kane's puckhandling)

I guess Anisimov must have just been a pure Jesper Fast presence.
 
Fitzy said:
I always thought it was funny that Kane and Panarin had chemistry in Chicago since they're basically the same player on opposite wings, with some minor distinctions (Kane's puckhandling)

I guess Anisimov must have just been a pure Jesper Fast presence.
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They both need space.

They both need to be paired with players that take and create space. Kreider and Trocheck are the best matching for Kane, even though he's been struggling to get in space coming down the right wall.

Panarin Zibs Tank have looked great in the O-Zone with their movement and attack... they seem to have figured it out.

I also think Kreider and Zibs play better separated.
 
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Fitzy said:
I always thought it was funny that Kane and Panarin had chemistry in Chicago since they're basically the same player on opposite wings, with some minor distinctions (Kane's puckhandling)

I guess Anisimov must have just been a pure Jesper Fast presence.
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I wasn't exactly watching a ton of Blackhawks games at the time. Did they actually have chemistry, or is it just that they were both really good hockey players and no one knew how good Panarin was on his own yet?
 
duhmetreE said:
I also think Kreider and Zibs play better separated.
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duhmetreE said:
They both need to be paired with players that take and create space. Kreider and Trocheck are the best matching for Kane, even though he's been struggling to get in space coming down the right wall.

I also think Kreider and Zibs play better separated.
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While I have no problem with Kreider playing with Trocheck and Kane to say Kreider and Zibs play better separated is kind of dumb considering he scored 52 goals last year playing together and they are also very effective on the penalty kill.
 
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Bruner4329 said:
While I have no problem with Kreider playing with Trocheck and Kane to say Kreider and Zibs play better separated is kind of dumb considering he scored 52 goals last year playing together and they are also very effective on the penalty kill.
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Well, good thing we're not playing in last year.
 
Id like to see chytil starting to get some PK time in the next few games. Especially once we're locked into a playoff seed.
Theres alot of possibility with chytil's speed on the pk.
 
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IDvsEGO said:
Didnt we say the same thing about mika before he started on the PK?
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Fair, and I'm all for figuring out ways to get Chytil more opportunity. Just... maybe try it next year, not with ten games to go in the regular season.
 
Greg02 said:
Fair, and I'm all for figuring out ways to get Chytil more opportunity. Just... maybe try it next year, not with ten games to go in the regular season.
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I mean 10 games left in the regular season, and its almost guaranteed we play the devils in the first round. Not much that can be messed up by trying a couple small new things now.
 
IDvsEGO said:
I mean 10 games left in the regular season, and its almost guaranteed we play the devils in the first round. Not much that can be messed up by trying a couple small new things now.
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Except him getting hurt blocking a shot :)
 
duhmetreE said:
Panarin Zibs Tank have looked great in the O-Zone with their movement and attack... they seem to have figured it out.

I also think Kreider and Zibs play better separated.
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Agreed on both. Offensively, Bread, Mika and Tara have really gelled with tic-tac-toe plays I've found ... what happens when you have skill with skill. Not a shot at Goodrow playing on Panarins wing most of the season, just a valid point that Goodrow is far more suited on the best 4th line we have had since 2014.

Also Mika and Kreids, as great as the 2 on 1 saucer passes for Kreids tap ins looked at times, was always a one trick pony to me. Either use end boards/corner to send Kreider on a break or get a 2 on 1 and go Mika to Kreids. They are better separated.
 
Fitzy said:
I always thought it was funny that Kane and Panarin had chemistry in Chicago since they're basically the same player on opposite wings, with some minor distinctions (Kane's puckhandling)

I guess Anisimov must have just been a pure Jesper Fast presence.
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2 players who "demand the puck" (a term we've heard a lot of especially in relation to Kanes adjustment) rarely work together.

I'm willing to guess that a MAJOR factor in their chemistry early was the shock factor of "who the hell is Panarin and why is he this good?" because he was a 25 year old rookie.
Also, as good as Kane is, for him to have everything going on with moving his family to NY, leaving Chicago after 16 years, and then on top of that to try and meet all these expectations of him and his chemistry with Panarin while also trying not to step on the other stars toes....yeah thats a lot going on even for one of the best.
MAYBE, it works down the stretch in wake of (god forbid) injuries or last ditch efforts in playoffs, but I think it was all too forced and expected by other teams to know that they are just going to try to find eachother at every chances.
Not in any means advocating for them to be back together, because I like our team with them on separate lines.

Love to see the Kids get going again in the Florida game. If that line is what they were last playoffs, along with the Motte-Goody-Vesey 4L and the currently constructed top 6, I LOVE our chances against any team in a 7 game series with our defense (with Lindgren/Mikkola back in their rightful spots) and especially with Igor.
 
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Trocheck and Goodrow are the only players on the team with an xGF% higher without Kreider than with him.

And the gap is rapidly closing with Trocheck because Kreider-Trocheck-Kane is like a 65% xGF line.
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The "Kreider can't play with anyone" narrative is recency bias because he hasn't been all that great lately (particularly last game.)

Kreider-Zibanejad were a fire duo with almost everyone other than Tarasenko.
 
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Uninstaaled said:
The "Kreider can't play with anyone" narrative is recency bias because he hasn't been all that great lately (particularly last game.)

Kreider-Zibanejad were a fire duo with almost everyone other than Tarasenko.
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Kreider: *inflates everyone's underlying numbers for 11 years*

HF: "Guy can't play with anyone."

He's currently got Patrick Kane driving possession at 5v5.
 
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