Speculation: Roster Building Thread V (2021 Offseason) - Hold them horses, only 45 days left until the draft!

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Agreed, but what do you consider a good asset and the question then is, if there was such a deal, w e could have made it already.
how much money do we save buying him out vs 50% retained? I also wonder what % we retain to equal the cost of the buyout. Because if you retain at that %, even a 7th round pick is net positive.
 
Chytil isn't a reclamation project though. He's upped his game every season, and is poised to break out. Brendl had higher draft cache, but hadn't even played an NHL game at that point (which was seen as a huge disappointment for a player who, at that point, was our highest draft pick ever). I don't think we really have anyone like that on the current roster.

I never said he was. Look, it's going to be impossible to find an EXACT match for those 3 players. Adding Chytil makes a lot of sense of Buchnevich is the big piece.
 
Yeah, and that's why I suggested Chytil. The potential is there, even though it hasn't surfaced yet for Chytil. They're going to want some potential coming back and I'd assume at least 1 player with some salary attached like Buchnevich. It saves us the cap hit of close to 6m he will probably get.

The defenseman could be anyone really. Robertson, Miller or Jones make sense since their right side already has Miller, Jokiharju and Ristolainen. They need someone on the left to slot in behind Dahlin.
I think they have more of a need at RD. Miller and Ristolainen aren't going to be there past next season at the latest and on LD they have Dahlin, Samuelsson, Bryson, and likely Owen Power. It's why I think it's more likely to be Schneider or Nils, hopefully not the latter.
 
Makes you wonder of the return would be similar to what Philly got for Lindros.

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What would be the comparable here for the Rangers?


Filip Chytil
Pavel Buchnevich
Matthew Robertson/Zac Jones
3rd round pick

Even that is too much. Lindros I still think had the "he was a generational, McDavid-level talent," stigma attached to him. Eichel has never been that highly regarded.

I'm beginning to think the Mark Stone for Erik Brannstrom template may work for Eichel. There were fillers in that deal but not much of significance. A second round pick and Oscar Lindberg went with Brannstrom to Ottawa for Stone.

So like Nils Lundkvist/Braden Schneider, a second and Brett Howden maybe. I would prefer Schneider sent out.
 
I never said he was. Look, it's going to be impossible to find an EXACT match for those 3 players. Adding Chytil makes a lot of sense of Buchnevich is the big piece.

I don't want the team to trade for Eichel anyway. He's not physical, not particularly good defensively, he's fragile as all get out, and we can't afford to have big dollar contracts at every position. I want the team to go out and find a mid-20s Brandon Dubinsky type for the third line, and ice Zib--Chytil--Dubi-Type as our 1-2-3 centers.
 
Going out on a limb here, but I believe Lafreniere has a better season production wise than CK in 21-22
That’d be great and is definitely possible, but that doesn’t mean he’ll be better than CK as a net front PP man in particular. He’s a smooth passer, should be playing the boards on a PP
 
Frankly given how low his stock is sinking I think I risk the NMC kicking in and hoping he gets healthy and his production improves, then try again.

I would too.

Of course he could get hurt again or completely Hall out next year and tank his value completely, but if there is any chance at getting a real return back this would probably be their best course of actio.
 
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At the same time, a return of Buch, Schneider, a first, and a low end player would probably be acceptable for the Rangers and may be the best deal the Sabres could ever get for him.

The flip Stome for futures/grit.
 
I just have zero interest in Eichel. Between the injury, the cap hit, and the cost, I don't see any of it working out well for us.

I know he's a young player, but until we know the extent of the injury and if it's something he can make a full recovery from, that's a hell of a commitment I don't want to make.
 
I hate to say it but I think any deal has to include Chytil. Plus one of the D prospects, and as I said before Buffalo has a bigger need at RD so Schneider/Nils, 15th overall obviously. I think we could see Geo thrown in there, he's still pretty damn young and while he struggled a bit last season should have value.

Chytil
Schneider/Lundkvist
Georgiev
1st

Perhaps another piece.
 
You're guess or what you think its gonna end up being if it happens?

My guess if it were to happen now and he ends up here. I never bought that the market for him was going to be as hot as some thought or Sabres fans hoped it would be. All this information coming out now really just confirms that (especially if they're going to try to move him by the draft, which is a month and a half away. Sounds like they just want this to be over.)
 
I actually think Strome would be an interest for Buffalo in an Eichel deal. He’s signed for 1 more year, he can pass as a 1C on a garbage team, and they can trade him next deadline for at least a 1st if he produces half way decent.

wouldn’t rule it out
 
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I hate to say it but I think any deal has to include Chytil. Plus one of the D prospects, and as I said before Buffalo has a bigger need at RD so Schneider/Nils, 15th overall obviously. I think we could see Geo thrown in there, he's still pretty damn young and while he struggled a bit last season should have value.

Chytil
Schneider/Lundkvist
Georgiev
1st

Perhaps another piece.

You're going to be in a tricky situation there because if it's that NYR then have to trade Buchnevich and Strome in separate deals without taking much cap bac, which will be hard.
 
My guess if it were to happen now and he ends up here. I never bought that the market for him was going to be as hot as some thought or Sabres fans hoped it would be. All this information coming out now really just confirms that (especially if they're going to try to move him by the draft, which is a month and a half away. Sounds like they just want this to be over.)
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if that was the deal but man his value has eroded so quick so fast you wonder if Drury could get away from this without including Nils.
 
I hate to say it but I think any deal has to include Chytil. Plus one of the D prospects, and as I said before Buffalo has a bigger need at RD so Schneider/Nils, 15th overall obviously. I think we could see Geo thrown in there, he's still pretty damn young and while he struggled a bit last season should have value.

Chytil
Schneider/Lundkvist
Georgiev
1st

Perhaps another piece.

If we deal Chytil, then aren't we back looking for another C, particularly after we likely need to part ways with Mika at the end of his current deal?
 
You guys got it all wrong, the young center to be included in this deal will be Howden not Chytil.

Especially if Quinny is going to be the next coach in Buffalo lol
 
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