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Speculation: Roster Building Thread V (2021 Offseason) - Hold them horses, only 45 days left until the draft!

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pld459666 said:
With Lafreniere maturing, hes going to replace CK on PP1 as soon as this season.
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He has a ways to go before he reaches that level . If he has a decent season15-20 goals and 25 -30 assists that will be good for him considering we have some offensive pieces taking key ice time ahead of him.
 
eco's bones said:
The longer the cap ceiling remains flat the more it will deflate salaries. Older, declining vets are going to start playing for peanuts or not at all unless they decide to play in Europe. I don’t see Mika scoring the kind of contract next year that he would have a couple years ago if he had been a UFA then. He’ll still get more (at least if he has a good season) because he’s kind of underpaid.

It’s a good time to be a young player on an ELC or second contract. Seattle coming in this year though does inject a potential 80 million into the market place.
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Potentially a 50% raise for Mika with a big season . Somebody will pay him if not the Rangers . I doubt he takes lesser amount in NY when it can be got elsewhere unless he really is in love with the NY lifestyle . 5 years term and more money might keep him here versus 7 years at lesser money elsewhere ....lot's of options for both sides . It will be a very interesting scenario over the Winter as he holds the bargaining chips because of his NTC . We might end up with nothing to show for him if he plays it out and then walks away . That's not a nice option for us but it is always in play.
 
bobbop said:
1. Acquire a left hand defenseman with some bite and a short contract. Matthias Ekholm would be perfect, Mark Giordano could be a nice alternative.

2. A center who can win face offs and bring some bite. Barclay Goodrow please.

3. At least one winger with some sandpaper. Heavyweight standing not a necessity but would be nice. There could be more than one addition.

4. Monetize players on ELCs at the end of their contract (e.g. Hajek, Howden) who do not figure in future plans.

First published May 9, 2021
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im on the Giordano train. He shouldn’t cost many assets and while he’s overpaid at his age it’s only 1 yr. he firs in nicely and doesn’t block kids long term
 
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leetch99 said:
Potentially a 50% raise for Mika with a big season . Somebody will pay him if not the Rangers . I doubt he takes lesser amount in NY when it can be got elsewhere unless he really is in love with the NY lifestyle . 5 years term and more money might keep him here versus 7 years at lesser money elsewhere ....lot's of options for both sides . It will be a very interesting scenario over the Winter as he holds the bargaining chips because of his NTC . We might end up with nothing to show for him if he plays it out and then walks away . That's not a nice option for us but it is always in play.
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be careful Jersey doesn’t
 
our lack of centers really hurts, and I don’t feel confident we’ll make a good move regarding that.
 
MysticLeviathan said:
our lack of centers really hurts, and I don’t feel confident we’ll make a good move regarding that.
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It's the move that in all likelihood will make or break the rebuild. Get the center formula right and there is enough talent on the wings and D to be a dominant team for a 5-7 year stretch. Get it wrong and we're a middling team always chasing a center wasting prime years.
 
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pld459666 said:
With Lafreniere maturing, hes going to replace CK on PP1 as soon as this season.
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Kreider you do not take off PP1. He is terrific in front of the net and nobody else replaces that on the team. The guy you replace on PP1 is...

Vitto79 said:
I’d have Laf replace Strome
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Any number of players should replace Strome on PP1. Buchnevich, Kakko, Lafreniere - all good choices.
 
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NYR Viper said:
For the role we need, I am much more inclined to sign Oleksiak than trade for either Ekholm or Giordano. The assets are better used elsewhere.
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I understand why everyone wants a veteran LD, but considering Jones and robertson are both going to make a big push for the team I feel like that’s not quite as likely.
 
NYR Viper said:
For the role we need, I am much more inclined to sign Oleksiak than trade for either Ekholm or Giordano. The assets are better used elsewhere.
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sure I would be happy with that but at what cost and term ?
I assume Dallas resigns him teams are just waiting till expansion
 
bbny said:
Kreider you do not take off PP1. He is terrific in front of the net and nobody else replaces that on the team. The guy you replace on PP1 is...



Any number of players should replace Strome on PP1. Buchnevich, Kakko, Lafreniere - all good choices.
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You do not stunt the growth of the future of this franchise by the likes of Chris Kreider
 
pld459666 said:
You do not stunt the growth of the future of this franchise by the likes of Chris Kreider
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I agree with you, but it needs to be the right guy and the right role you are taking out. I wouldn't have Chris Kreider block Lafreniere at even strength. I hope Laf slots up next year, and Kreider down. It's just Kreider fills a specific role on PP1 and he does it well. I'd take out Strome first
 
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bbny said:
I agree with you, but it needs to be the right guy and the right role you are taking out. I wouldn't have Chris Kreider block Lafreniere at even strength. I hope Laf slots up next year, and Kreider down. It's just Kreider fills a specific role on PP1 and he does it well. I'd take out Strome first
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We are assuming the PP is going to be similar to what we were doing previously.

I'd venture a guess that everything we have been doing is going to change meaning lots more movement and less loitering in front of the goalie.

I can see Lafreniere replacing Strome as well, but I think he's there for FOs, as bad as he is at it, as a second center type.

Either way, its going to be a fun season
 
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IDvsEGO said:
I understand why everyone wants a veteran LD, but considering Jones and robertson are both going to make a big push for the team I feel like that’s not quite as likely.
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I think it is very likely. This team needs some vet leadership on the backend. I don't think it's going to be someone like Ekholm though. He would fit well, but he has 1 year left on his contract and will cost significant assets to acquire. If we are trading for him, it isn't just for 1 year, and it doesn't make sense to sign him long term at age 32.

If Vegas can't afford to re-sign Martinez, I'd see if he wants to sign here.

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Alec Martinez, pending UFA

With all the star power in Vegas (and we mean on the Golden Knights, not in the casinos) it’s been easy to forget that two-time Stanley Cup champion Alec Martinez is even on the roster let alone how important he’s been to this team. The 33-year-old has been a rock and helped solidify the blue line corps especially as Alex Pietrangelo took some time to adjust to his new surroundings after signing with Vegas last off-season. In fact, Martinez has settled in as a nice partner to Pietrangelo on the team’s number one defensive pairing. “He’s been invaluable on the ice and a big leader in the room,” said one source familiar with the dynamics in Vegas. “Vegas needs him back and I think the feeling is mutual.” But can they make it work? Between Pietrangelo and Shea Theodore, the Golden Knights are committed to $14 million in cap space for their top two defenders. Martinez is a bargain at $4 million but even if he’d like to re-up with the Golden Knights how much is too much? Two years at $5 million probably isn’t overpaying but it may be too much for Vegas. No doubt rival GMs will be watching how this plays out and hope Martinez hits the open market.
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2 years @ 5 mil and no assets given up? Yes please.
 
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GAGLine said:
I think it is very likely. This team needs some vet leadership on the backend. I don't think it's going to be someone like Ekholm though. He would fit well, but he has 1 year left on his contract and will cost significant assets to acquire. If we are trading for him, it isn't just for 1 year, and it doesn't make sense to sign him long term at age 32.

If Vegas can't afford to re-sign Martinez, I'd see if he wants to sign here.

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2 years @ 5 mil and no assets given up? Yes please.
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My issue with Martinez is that his fancy stats have been ass for almost his entire career. This year was better but I'm not sure he's who I want as a vet.

People have mentioned Nick Holden as an option of Vegas wants to jettison some cap. He's a good bottom-pairing d-man and has 1 year left on as reasonable deal.
 
NYR Viper said:
My issue with Martinez is that his fancy stats have been ass for almost his entire career. This year was better but I'm not sure he's who I want as a vet.

People have mentioned Nick Holden as an option of Vegas wants to jettison some cap. He's a good bottom-pairing d-man and has 1 year left on as reasonable deal.
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One guy I think could be a fit here is Forbert.

What do the metrics say about him?
 
All I know is that strome can’t be on the half wall on the PP. that needs to be taken by Kakko or Laf
 
Vitto79 said:
I’d have Laf replace Strome
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That’s the way to go in my mind. Laf has an amazing wrist shot so he is a threat to score from there which adds another dynamic.

Let Strome center the second unit, with Nils Lundkvist on the left side half boards where he made his living in Sweden.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
Don't see it. Kreider is still absolutely lethal in front of the net including effective screens. Lafreniere shouldn't be playing that role.
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He’s top three in the league at that and will be for the foreseeable future, which is one of the reasons why I’m less catastrophic about his contract than others.

Just reduce his even strength role and he’s one of the leagues very best role players
 
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