Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXVII

[GoAwayPanarin]

Literally last season they took Tampa to 7 games

I meant to say it will have been 2 seasons since that happened.

Thats basically an eternity for some of those guys. I can pretty much Guarantee that they attempt to open it up a bit next year and its fails miserably. They're not built to play that way and with them getting older and slower, they aren't really built to play Trotz hockey either.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I wonder if one of those US teams is the Rangers

Kuzmenko to meet with Oilers, Canucks this week - TSN.ca

Free agent forward Andrei Kuzmenko is set to interview with both the Edmonton Oilers and Vancouver Canucks this week as he seeks out his NHL landing spot.

www.tsn.ca

I forgot where I read it but the US teams were Detroit and someone else that’s blanking me right now, but wasn’t us.

Everything in me says that Kakko and Nils get traded this summer.

It's going to suck watching Kakko put it together somewhere else.

Eh, If Drury didnt have interest in trading Krav because of his potential, then I just don’t see him trading Kakko. Seems to be smart about keeping the young players.

I’m more worried a team offer sheeting him, so Drury needs to get him signed before then.

I agree about Nils though, having a hard time finding him a spot on the roster anytime soon.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Are we really talking about the Devils and Islanders as playoff teams in June?

Stop.

I'll believe it when I see it with the Devils. Goaltending and team defense are still major issues for them. Exciting offense but that's not everything. They were playing pond hockey all year and got blown out lots.

And even there, their franchise player is fragile as all f***. Hischer isn't exactly the epitome of durability either. I am pleased that that place is becoming a Flyers esque goalie graveyard though.

They look like the Pre-McDavid Oilers.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

What we're hearing about the Rangers' offseason, 1.0: Latest on Strome, Copp, Kakko, more

Here's the latest from league sources about Ryan Strome, Andrew Copp, Kaapo Kakko, Vitali Kravtsov and other Rangers offseason topics.

theathletic.com

Strome may be willing to take a bit less in salary and a bit more on term to stay, given he’s been a Ranger for four years and finally found his footing as an NHLer after his stays with the Islanders and Oilers. If Drury could get Strome for six years at an AAV beginning with a four (preferably at or below $4.5 million), that would be a better option for the Rangers going forward.

There are other options beyond Strome and Copp. Drury could opt for Chytil as his No. 2 center and look for more bottom-six help, either by trying to sign Tyler Motte or another depth forward. There may also be trade options. But for now, sources indicate that the Rangers are pivoting back to Strome after gauging whether Copp could be had for something less than his initial desires. As of now, early in the process, the answer seems to be no.

Really hope this is some type of negotiation tactic.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Strome for 6 years would be gross.

STOP CATERING TO PANARIN!

 

[Vitto79]

Vatrano is not a net negative.

He hustles, is an effective back checker, has tremendous speed and a lethal shot. He lacks the size and physicality and isn’t the greatest carrying the puck on his stick, but there are very few players who are good at everything. Some of you just expect every player to be MacKinnon or they suck.

Detroit will sign Vatrano and Motte I just hope they don’t get Copp and he returns to NYR

 

[EdJovanovski]

What we're hearing about the Rangers' offseason, 1.0: Latest on Strome, Copp, Kakko, more

Here's the latest from league sources about Ryan Strome, Andrew Copp, Kaapo Kakko, Vitali Kravtsov and other Rangers offseason topics.

theathletic.com

Really hope this is some type of negotiation tactic.

LFG

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Detroit will sign Vatrano and Motte I just hope they don’t get Copp and he returns to NYR

If it's two out of the three, I hope they can keep Motte and Copp. Vatrano is a luxury.

 

[RangersFan1994]

If it's two out of the three, I hope they can keep Motte and Copp. Vatrano is a luxury.

Rather keep Copp and Frankie V. Motte is okay but injury prone. Good depth piece but can be replaced with Kravtsov, Paju, Cuylle from within.

 

[RangerBoy]

That somehow makes it even more embarrassing.

The Rangers use conference call technology from 1990.

 

[17futurecap]

Let them all go, get Kakko signed, get Blais signed, overpay Stasny by 500 grand so he takes a 1 year deal, get a solid backup goalie with a slight overpay for a season.

Trade Nemeth, let the kids play.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

re-signing strome would be an awful idea

 

[RangersFan1994]

i have a feeling Ryan Carpenter willl be our 4th line center next year. Played for Turk. Good at the draw so he will be bad on this team. But he can PK and is a physical player.

I would not mind this at all. Cheap depth and a solid depth player

 

[RangerBoy]

Drury is concerned about too many trade protections on the roster. Doesn't sound like Chris wants to hand out more contracts with NMC/trade protections. Copp wants to get paid after taking short term deals in Winnipeg. Can't blame him. It was nice knowing him. I want the Rangers to keep Copp but it can't be a 6-7 year contract above $5.5M AAV. They can't do that. Keeping Strome is a bad idea. The Rangers have so many issues with their cap which will be flat for at least the next two seasons. If the Rangers re-sign one of their group III's to a long-term deal at $5M plus, that limits their flexibility to keep their own players.

Move up Chytil and acquire a player to center the 3rd line/create the checking line.

Tough decisions.

 

[RangerBoy]

re-signing strome would be an awful idea

Doesn't sound like Drury wants to give Strome the usual trade protections in group III contracts. The Rangers are crazy to waste money and a roster spot on Strome. He was invisible in the playoffs. His production should be better for a player who has played 2000 minutes in the last three seasons with Panarin.

 

[Vitto79]

They can just resign Copp and ice a good team but more will happen

Kreider , Zib, Laf
Panarin , Copp, Kakko
Goodrow , Chytil , Kravtsov
Blais , Rydahl, Reaves
Hunt, Gauthier , Brodzinski

Same D and G

I expect Georgiev paired w Nemeth for nothing much . Cap space basically

Likely move Gauthier and Kravtsov adding a ufa C

 

[Mac n Gs]

What we're hearing about the Rangers' offseason, 1.0: Latest on Strome, Copp, Kakko, more

Here's the latest from league sources about Ryan Strome, Andrew Copp, Kaapo Kakko, Vitali Kravtsov and other Rangers offseason topics.

theathletic.com

Really hope this is some type of negotiation tactic.

Some pretty big news at the end of the article too. A lot of turnover in the scouting department.

Front-office moves​

The Rangers confirmed to The Athletic that several scouts did not have contracts renewed just as the playoffs began. The biggest name is Gordie Clark, who ran the Rangers draft table for 15 years and was a team employee for 20 seasons, this last one as a pro scout.

Also out are three of the team’s amateur scouts: Brendon Clark, Gordie’s son and a Rangers amateur scout the past 12 years; Rich Brown, the team’s Ontario scout for the past 21 years; and Daniel Doré, the Rangers’ Quebec scout for the past 15 years.

European scout Oto Hascak, in the organization for 12 years, also left on his own.

Combined with the firing of head European scout Nick Bobrov last offseason, Drury is clearly still putting his stamp on the scouting department, now run by John Lilley. Bobrov is now co-director of amateur scouting for the Canadiens, and a league source said Doré may join Montreal soon.

 

[huerter]

Strome for 6 years would be gross.

STOP CATERING TO PANARIN!

And get rid of Allaire. Stop catering to Shesty.

 

[AirGut]

Drury is concerned about too many trade protections on the roster. Doesn't sound like Chris wants to hand out more contracts with NMC/trade protections. Copp wants to get paid after taking short term deals in Winnipeg. Can't blame him. It was nice knowing him. I want the Rangers to keep Copp but it can't be a 6-7 year contract above $5.5M AAV. They can't do that. Keeping Strome is a bad idea. The Rangers have so many issues with their cap which will be flat for at least the next two seasons. If the Rangers re-sign one of their group III's to a long-term deal at $5M plus, that limits their flexibility to keep their own players.

Move up Chytil and acquire a player to center the 3rd line/create the checking line.

Tough decisions.

It feels more and more like Copp will chase the money and Strome will give Drury the puppy eyes and take a discount with term to stay in NY. I hope that's not the case

 

[Good Intentions]

Drury needs to hit up Vegas again. They are struggling for any cap space. Of course Dadonov is going to get moved, but they have 200K in cap space at the moment.

Two centers that they have that could be in play, Chandler Stephenson and Nic Roy. Stephenson has the speed, Roy has the size. Depends on which one you prefer. Stephenson would cost more as well to get. He had a year that puts him in the top tier of 2nd line centers. Roy put up 34 ES points in 78 games. Very little PP production, was a 2nd unit guy.

Roy I think fits better than the others. His size and playstyle fit what the Rangers would be looking for. He probably comes in around the 3-3.5M AAV range, which would work perfectly. 6'4 200lbs. Arbitration eligible RFA. 17 points in 39 playoff games too, so there is postseason experience and relative success for a young player.

Vegas is going to need players on ELCs since they are hard pressed when it comes to the cap. Nils Lundkvist could be the ticket to making this type of a move. RHD that would slot on their 3rd pair right now. They've got Pietrangelo and Whitecloud that play that tougher style and can be physical, so he doesn't have to play that kind of role. Also with Pietrangelo getting older, they'll need depth on that right side.

Your concept is good but those are interchangeable pieces you’re acquiring. I’m not trading a first or second tier prospect for that. Move forward with Chytil. Sign Stastny and add ++ at the deadline.

 

[Vitto79]

And get rid of Allaire. Stop catering to Shesty.

Allaire isn’t on the salary cap

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Allaire isn’t on the salary cap

Or the ice for that matter

 

[Good Intentions]

Trading that 1st (which was only a first if it landed as a pick 29-32) basically bought this young group their playoff lessons at a much younger age than anyone could have expected. Sure you'd love to have the 1st, but what the kids on this team got from the last two months is more valuable than the pick.

This x100. You can’t put a price on it. For context, that 1st is a lottery ticket asset. Stay focused.

 

[Ola]

Still fair

 

[Boris Zubov]

Gordie Clark has finally left the building.