Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXX

[jay from jersey]

I'd rather trade Chytil 1 for 1 for a right winger. Centers aren't cheap and I think that's a battle that is going to have be fought in the offseason. Just roll with Goodrow or Barron as centers on that line. Hopefully Chytil can bring back someone with a bit more skill to that 2 RW slot than Hunt. If the RW Chytil brings in a trade has a good season with Panarin then we've recouped some value if we need to replace Strome next season. Chytil's value is going to drop even lower if they continue to play him on wing especially with how bad our centers are at playing center.

I think Barron is going to thrive at the 3rd line position next season. Especially flanked by Goodrow and say, Blais. That line has size, will hit, and can score.
Eventually down the line have
Goodrow/Blais-Barron-Cuylle line would also do damage, but that’s too far down the road.
Barron is the type of player like William Carrier, or Stephenson ( though not as gifted offensively). Guys that are very smart that have solid tools that Gallants going to get the best out of and put into a position to succeed.
I think he fits the mold of what Gallant want more from his bottom 6. Chytil suffers from going back and fourth from being an 2-3 tweener that plays a grinding N/S type game. He’s still developing.
Maybe he does turn into Lars Eller type with a little more offense down the line. But I dont think with our cap situation, his contract status, Barron coming up, and the likely need for an immediate upgrade on 2C, hopefully a Larkin type somehow, chytil makes it past this season as a ranger.

I hope Barron gets some games this season. He deserves it. I also what to see if he can build/has and chemistry with certain players.
I don’t get why they are playing McKegg, etc.
I guess they really only play to play Barron if they are short and center and don’t want him bouncing for wing to center.
It’s just makes so much more sense to me to integrate a guy like Barron who you know is coming next season and is part of your future, opposed to a journeyman.
Even if Barron doesn’t play well for a 3-4 game call up, at least you reward him for his play in Hartford and give him something to strive for and work harder.
For me, I’d want to gauge how far my future contributor is coming along as opposed as just wasting a spot on McKegg whose likely not going to be here next season.

 

[egelband]

And what play a tandem of Georgiev and Kinkaid? Awful

I wouldn’t do that trade, at all, but Georgiev as a starter is better than Georgiev as backup.

 

[egelband]

Playoff experience matters but not at the expense of talent.

Get the young talent first and then let them get the experience organically.

I think most would agree. I think what we can leverage at the trade deadline is cap space. There will be teams like Arizona and Ottawa who will want to give their vets a playoff shot and not a lot of teams with cap space to take them. Hopefully a Hajek or Georgiev is considered enough of a lottery ticket to get the job done. Only takes one deal, really. Something will materialize, I think.

 

[egelband]

As far as whether or not the rangers are contenders, it’s safe to say they’re not there yet. But they have the talent. And the coach seems good. It’s really just a matter of them putting it together. That could happen tomorrow or never. That’s always the case. The Avs were a one line middling team for years. The Blues were in last place I think, and then they put it together and haven’t looked back. The lightning had tons of talent but got knocked out early for a few years before it clicked. It can click any time. Or it won’t. But I think the rangers are over one hill, which is the talent part. They have enough talent. I’m not making any predictions but just saying I think they’re close and it’s possible they get it together any time.

 

[Vitto79]

Can they not just look at Barron at 3rd line C and sit Hunt for a few games ?

 

[Ola]

Wait we have people suggesting we trade Igor now?!?!

Nah, not quite.

What I do think is that we — might — be at a point where it is necessary to restructure the team a bit to take the next step. And for many teams in the past, that has included trading really good players.

In any event, such trades shouldn’t be made now, but if at any time, next summer.

In that context, I was just spittin concepts.

 

[egelband]

Nah, not quite.

What I do think is that we — might — be at a point where it is necessary to restructure the team a bit to take the next step. And for many teams in the past, that has included trading really good players.

In any event, such trades shouldn’t be made now, but if at any time, next summer.

In that context, I was just spittin concepts.

I think - and I think you would agree - they’ve made their bed, so to speak. You may be completely right that they should re-think the team composition, but realistically the Rangers are going with what they have and not making huge changes…unless something crazy happens.

 

[jay from jersey]

Can they not just look at Barron at 3rd line C and sit Hunt for a few games ?

It’s really irritating me at this point. I want Hunt back on the 4th with Rooney/Reaves. He’s a big reason why that line has been consistent/ better then the oppositions 4th line. I think both Rooney and Reaves counted a lot on Hunt getting the puck into the offensive zone and getting it down low to start the cycle.
McKegg over Barron is just mind boggling at this point. You’ve got to reward the kid a little and give him some incentive to keep working hard. He’s not going to be a permanent call up unless he comes in and tears it up. But with bread out for a little while, they are missing a prime opportunity to get a sneak preview of Barron and see how he’s progressed from his cup of coffee last season imo.
If he comes up and plays average or even bad, he’s likely going back to Hartford for the rest of the season anyway.
If he comes in and plays really well, you’ve strengthened the team overall by adding a big center with a very good wrist shot who plays well along the boards and goes to the dirty areas to score goals. If he Forces Gallant to keep him up with his play, I don’t see how that’s a bad thing. He might just surprise us and come up and have some chemistry with guys we want to get going. If it doesn’t work atm, or he needs more time in the A, you have McKegg as an option anyway....

 

[TominNC]

McKegg will be gone before next game if Panarin is ready. The team should be healthy soon as they'll finally have a break in the schedule.

They've gotten through a busy part of the schedule without their top goalie. They've played as many road games as anyone in the league and have a top road record. Mika is showing signs of heating up, Fox will get some much needed rest. I'm enjoying the season overall, even with some ugly hockey mixed in. I refuse to dwell on the negatives when the results are positive for the most part. Happy Holidays everyone, even you guys on ignore.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Drury is an idiot. He thinned the roster out unnecessarily when all he had to do was bring in Hunt and Reaves. How much better does this look!

Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin strome kakko
Laf chytil kravtsov
Hunt rooney Reaves

He's set us back big time, we're winning but this roster has too many guys who cant score and is riding on the back of Kreider and Panarin.

 

[TominNC]

Drury is an idiot. He thinned the roster out unnecessarily when all he had to do was bring in Hunt and Reaves. How much better does this look!

Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin strome kakko
Laf chytil kravtsov
Hunt rooney Reaves

He's set us back big time, we're winning but this roster has too many guys who cant score and is riding on the back of Kreider and Panarin.

He no doubt was expecting production from Mika. I know, crazy. Also something more from Chytil, Laf and Kakko. Their 5v5 scoring should be better.

Im fairly certain they didn’t sit around thinking Kreider will score well over 30 and then there’s Panarin. We’re good.

Of course they could have had Kravtsov by now but he missed mommy.

 

[Daves a mess]

Of course they could have had Kravtsov by now but he missed mommy.

Hoping all that breast feeding will make him strong like bull.

 

[Vitto79]

Drury is an idiot. He thinned the roster out unnecessarily when all he had to do was bring in Hunt and Reaves. How much better does this look!

Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin strome kakko
Laf chytil kravtsov
Hunt rooney Reaves

He's set us back big time, we're winning but this roster has too many guys who cant score and is riding on the back of Kreider and Panarin.

well I don’t think we can complain w the results

the mistake was not waiving Hajek to play Kravtsov

Blais got hurt

they are going to bring in rentals by the deadline

 

[rangersfansince08]

Miller and Chytil are such a waste of their physical gifts.Unfortunate that guys like Fox don't have those.

 

[duhmetreE]

Hajek and Georgiev building up trade value

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Drury is an idiot. He thinned the roster out unnecessarily when all he had to do was bring in Hunt and Reaves. How much better does this look!

Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin strome kakko
Laf chytil kravtsov
Hunt rooney Reaves

He's set us back big time, we're winning but this roster has too many guys who cant score and is riding on the back of Kreider and Panarin.

Stop blaming Drury for Kravtsov's immaturity. It was his decision to go back home. He would have been in the NHL a few weeks after being sent down. He didn't have to trade Buch but he wasn't going to pay him 6 mil per either. He got Blais who is a good player and a 2nd for him. Assuming he wasn't traded and on this team right now what do you do with him? Do you let him walk for nothing? Do you trade him at the deadline for something when the team is in playoff contention? They are dealing with that same question right now with Strome. Sometimes difficult decisions have to be made and not all work out perfectly.

 

[bleedblue94]

Nah, not quite.

What I do think is that we — might — be at a point where it is necessary to restructure the team a bit to take the next step. And for many teams in the past, that has included trading really good players.

In any event, such trades shouldn’t be made now, but if at any time, next summer.

In that context, I was just spittin concepts.

I'm fine restructuring parts of the team, but when you have arguably a top three goalie in the league signed to essentially a sweetheart contract right now you'd be foolish to trade him. There's plenty of other places to look at for making moves If you want to really shake up the roster.

 

[bleedblue94]

I brought this up before, if Vancouver's unable to climb back into the playoff race by the deadline and the rangers are still positioned playing as if they can make some noise in the playoffs I really think targeting horvat at 50% would make a lot of sense and fill a huge need here. We have pieces to make it work, and realistically if he's not going to be part of the solution for what we need right now chytil going the other way might make sense. I know we all want to find a long-term 2c but if they do resign strome then I think you have your answer on that.

 

[The New Russian Five]

Miller and Chytil are such a waste of their physical gifts.Unfortunate that guys like Fox don't have those.

We used to say the same thing about Kreider. Patience.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I brought this up before, if Vancouver's unable to climb back into the playoff race by the deadline and the rangers are still positioned playing as if they can make some noise in the playoffs I really think targeting horvat at 50% would make a lot of sense and fill a huge need here. We have pieces to make it work, and realistically if he's not going to be part of the solution for what we need right now chytil going the other way might make sense. I know we all want to find a long-term 2c but if they do resign strome then I think you have your answer on that.

From your mouth to gods ears please

 

[LOFIN]

Drury is an idiot. He thinned the roster out unnecessarily when all he had to do was bring in Hunt and Reaves. How much better does this look!

Kreider Zib Buch
Panarin strome kakko
Laf chytil kravtsov
Hunt rooney Reaves

He's set us back big time, we're winning but this roster has too many guys who cant score and is riding on the back of Kreider and Panarin.

Kravtsov was expecting a top-6 role, so he would be gone in this scenario.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Good luck with the salary retention, but Horvat would be 100% awesome. Nucks would be braindead to trade him.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Miller and Chytil are such a waste of their physical gifts.Unfortunate that guys like Fox don't have those.

Miller is much more physical this year. He's been an NHLer since January of 2021.

Everything is so "what have you done for me lately?" Remember when guys would actually be allowed to progress for 3-5 years?

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I think Barron is going to thrive at the 3rd line position next season. Especially flanked by Goodrow and say, Blais. That line has size, will hit, and can score.
Eventually down the line have
Goodrow/Blais-Barron-Cuylle line would also do damage, but that’s too far down the road.
Barron is the type of player like William Carrier, or Stephenson ( though not as gifted offensively). Guys that are very smart that have solid tools that Gallants going to get the best out of and put into a position to succeed.
I think he fits the mold of what Gallant want more from his bottom 6. Chytil suffers from going back and fourth from being an 2-3 tweener that plays a grinding N/S type game. He’s still developing.
Maybe he does turn into Lars Eller type with a little more offense down the line. But I dont think with our cap situation, his contract status, Barron coming up, and the likely need for an immediate upgrade on 2C, hopefully a Larkin type somehow, chytil makes it past this season as a ranger.

I hope Barron gets some games this season. He deserves it. I also what to see if he can build/has and chemistry with certain players.
I don’t get why they are playing McKegg, etc.
I guess they really only play to play Barron if they are short and center and don’t want him bouncing for wing to center.
It’s just makes so much more sense to me to integrate a guy like Barron who you know is coming next season and is part of your future, opposed to a journeyman.
Even if Barron doesn’t play well for a 3-4 game call up, at least you reward him for his play in Hartford and give him something to strive for and work harder.
For me, I’d want to gauge how far my future contributor is coming along as opposed as just wasting a spot on McKegg whose likely not going to be here next season.

It's getting silly with Barron already. Just waive Tinordi and bring him up. Hajek is a fine 7D.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Hajek and Georgiev building up trade value

They don't have much.

The job for next year is to bring in a bargain bin goalie with good stats.

Example: Charlie Lindgren is crushing it for the Blues and is a UFA. Reunite the Lindgren Bros in NY?