Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVI

[Oscar Lindberg]

Apparently the team asked about his offseason training plan in the exit interview, and he took that as a sign he was going to be traded somehow.

That seems like a pretty normal exit interview question to me though

I think Mollie might have been editorializing a bit when she said that, meaning I don’t think he assumed he was going to get traded because they asked that. Larry’s article today on this didn’t mention that piece.

What most likely happened is they had a contentious exit interview where both parties were clearly not in sync, coupled with the previous issues he had with Drury, and the very public rumors of him being part of an Eichel deal, he probably assumed they were going to trade him.

I don’t think them solely asking him about his training regimen is what made him think he’d be moved

 

[SirGoose]

I like the ask, good to start high - but realistically, I'd be happy getting back a real strong ultra competitive 3rd line RW who can play both sides of the puck, preferably a RHS who can put some pucks in the net a la Leblanc from the Sharks and can move up and down the lineup. (only 25 and happens to be from the NY area, played for the Colonials).

Even if you have to throw in one of the d prospects or a pick to sweeten the pot. I would almost over pay to get the right type of player in here who's young and cost controlled for a few seasons.

Jones, Kravsov for Leblanc and a 3rd. He's signed for 3 years 4.725. The kid can play and actually score at this level and can pass the puck. 39 helpers one year. Put him along side Chytil and Goodrow.

Bring him home.

Report: Labanc among Sharks players available for trade
Kevin Labanc at eliteprospects.com

Please no. When has this ever worked? Lets get Shattenkirk and Higgins too. No offense meant or at you, but in general, enough of this feels good hometown boy bs. Kravstov should be traded for the most valuable assets we can get in return and no specific player. Kravstov was not filling a need, so he doesn't need to be traded to fill a hole. We are losing value and simply need to recoup as much as possible. We continue making trades like the Buchnevich one and the trade listed above and the rebuild will have been for nothing as we sit with a team with no cost controlled players and a drained pipeline.

edit* also Lebanc sucks

 

[EpicDing]

In hindsight this interview is chock full of red flags https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/kravtsov-unplugged-opens-up-in-interview-with-sport-express/

He had an issue with being told he wasn't ready a year out from his draft too.

 

[jay from jersey]

I've been thinking about it....

How does trading assets and signing Larking at $6-7M or signing Hertl for $7M make sense? We're not signing Strome because he would 'cost too much'.

If Strome signs something similar to RNH, he might be here long term.

It’s not so much about spending the 6-7 mill.
It’s spending it on Strome for multiple years that’s the problem.
Ideally, Lindholm would be our target over both. He’s cheaper, better, and more versatile then Larkin/Hertl.
He’s a guy I would overpay to get it it falls apart this year for Calgary.
Ideally, you’d love it to be someone on an ELC or 2nd year deal like Chytil.
But finding one of those guys and landing them is going to be next to impossible.

 

[jay from jersey]

Let's not go full Buffalo here.

Lol he’s gonna say whatever he can to facilitate a trade as soon as possible. If the team that acquires him sticks him in the A for more then a few months, half year at the most this cry baby will be on the first thing smoking back to Russia to play in the KHL

 

[Thirty One]

Lol he’s gonna say whatever he can to facilitate a trade as soon as possible. If the team that acquires him sticks him in the A for more then a few months, half year at the most this cry baby will be on the first thing smoking back to Russia to play in the KHL

If he's willing to stick it out in the AHL for even a couple months, that would be a great thing. He clearly thinks he's too good for the AHL, but seems unwilling to prove that.

 

[Ola]

We haven't even played a game yet this season...

We are a more complete team than last year with our young guys theoretically progressing and Igor healthy. We have a high chance for success this year.

Yeah, don’t get me wrong. I am not “calling it”, just saying that — if everything fall in place — we could definitely compete. We have depth guys with potential and top guys with potential.

 

[jay from jersey]

If he's willing to stick it out in the AHL for even a couple months, that would be a great thing. He clearly thinks he's too good for the AHL, but seems unwilling to prove that.

Not here. Whatever happened here, it’s past the point of return. No only that, with our new coach/roster he likely doesn’t see much playing opportunity here for his future

 

[SA16]

Not here. Whatever happened here, it’s past the point of return. No only that, with our new coach/roster he likely doesn’t see much playing opportunity here for his future

He doesn't see much opportunity for his future on a team with some of the weakest RW depth in the league?

I wonder if we could get some more toughness for him...say that kid Boko Imama.

 

[jay from jersey]

He doesn't see much opportunity for his future on a team with some of the weakest RW depth in the league?

I wonder if we could get some more toughness for him...say that kid Boko Imama.

What are you talking about now??
He’s not likely to play over
Kreider ( NMC 3 more years)
Kakko in the top 6
And he’s obviously not the type of guy Gallant is looking for in the bottom 6 atm.
Blais/Goodrow
Reaves
And if someone gets injured, Gauthier looks to be the extra.
Not really a huge opportunity for a kid who looked a average maybe a bit above who was also injured in the preseason.

I would trade him to OTT for Fomention in a nanoseacond

 

[duhmetreE]

Kupari/Turcotte or bust

 

[SA16]

What are you talking about now??
He’s not likely to play over
Kreider ( NMC 3 more years)
Kakko in the top 6
And he’s obviously not the type of guy Gallant is looking for in the bottom 6 atm.
Blais/Goodrow
Reaves
And if someone gets injured, Gauthier looks to be the extra.

Kreider is a LW they are moving to RW because of a lack of players.

Blais is also a LW.

Kakko has 40 points in 114 games.

Goodrow has a career high of 24 points.

Gauthier has 2 goals in 47 games.

The team is extremely weak at RW. Hopefully Kakko is one top piece there. The rest is a bunch of depth guys and guys they are trying to move over from another position.

You see multiple top 6 RW there? Right now they have zero. One if Kakko keeps up his improvement.

 

[jay from jersey]

Kreider is a LW they are moving to RW because of a lack of players.

Blais is also a LW.

Kakko has 40 points in 114 games.

Goodrow has a career high of 24 points.

The team is extremely weak at RW. Hopefully Kakko is one top piece there. The rest is a bunch of depth guys and guys they are trying to move over from another position.

you can call him a LW. Until further notice, he’s a top 6 RW.
Blais and goodrow also play both sides.
They’re not moving kreider due to lack of players. They’re moving him over because they want him to gets top 6 minutes and is currently better then Kravy.
If kreider falls flat on his face or is unmotivated for large parts of the season, they may move him down or back on the left side.
He has proven chemistry with Zibby, still elite skater, and one of the best big men in front on the net on the PP in the league
When he feels like giving a shit.
Goodrow isn’t here to be a point machine.
4th line should even be an option for Krav at this point.

 

[Avery16]

What a punk.

Willing to play in the AHL for another team?

Seems fair. He's already given this org one season in the AHL.

 

[duhmetreE]

What's the deal with Hayton?

he's done well at tournaments but looks pedestrian in the AHL. Does he need high end skill around him? More of a compliment piece?

 

[jay from jersey]

What's the deal with Hayton?

he's done well at tournaments but looks pedestrian in the AHL. Does he need high end skill around him? More of a compliment piece?

I haven’t seen a ton of him, but I can tell you just what I saw from watching the Yotes last season. He’s got an absolutely deadly wrist shot. When he labels the corners it’s a thing of beauty.
I think when he gets more experienced, he’ll get it off a little quicker. That was one of his major problems. He was a touch too slow letting it fly.
He just looked overmatched and not close to being nhl ready.
At some point, you’d see glimpses of why the Yotes took him that high, but most of the time he was like a deer in headlights out there.
Not that he had great wingers to help him along either, put defensively he looked small and weak. Just shouldn’t have been brought up at all at that time imo.
Yotes fans have said he looked very good in the preseason prior to getting injured.
They really don’t have. Choice but to play him this year with DVO gone, so he’ll either sink or swim

 

[Avery16]

I’m skeptical, but can anyone confirm that there’s actual news in this piece:

https://t.co/f1e4ImimVu

 

[mas0764]

And there's the problem with guys like you. The Rangers could make the playoffs this year and win a round when they get there, and you'll declare it a non-successful season because they didn't win the cup. Shit, they could win the cup, and you'd still probably say pump the breaks everybody, pizza boy didn't build a Dom approved multi cup winning contender.

Let me break this down for you...it will help you understand yourself a bit better, and allow the rest of us enjoy opening night. Ready...

You don't like Chris Drury.

That's all this is. So you're going to root against the team in the hope that pizza boy gets fired, and someone else comes in and starts a re-re-rebuild more in line with yours and Big Dom's philosophies. You're going to twist every dumbass stat you can into evidence of your rightness, and if the Rangers do fall short of whatever moving target you set forth as a goal for them, you'll crow about being right on a message board.

Honestly, there's nothing wrong with this. I agree with none of the substance of what you're saying, but if you want to root against the team for whatever reason...go ahead and be a fan however you want. But for f*** sakes give it a rest until the team has played a few games. Rooting for the team to step on its collective dick on opening night because you don't like the asset management is really really not reading the room.

~flush~

Yeah, I spend hours desperately pining for winning player acquisitions from a team I want to lose.

Sorry that Pizza Boy being called out for his shitty GMing bothers your homer sensitivities. When he does something good besides screw up our rebuild and get us on the path to actually being a contender he’ll be duly recognized.

 

[haohmaru]

Sorry that Pizza Boy being called out for his shitty GMing bothers your homer sensitivities. When he does something good besides screw up our rebuild and get us on the path to actually being a contender he’ll be duly recognized.

That's a pretty incredible assessment for a GM that's got exactly one NHL game under his belt after tonight.

 

[Avery16]

And there's the problem with guys like you. The Rangers could make the playoffs this year and win a round when they get there, and you'll declare it a non-successful season because they didn't win the cup. Shit, they could win the cup, and you'd still probably say pump the breaks everybody, pizza boy didn't build a Dom approved multi cup winning contender.

Let me break this down for you...it will help you understand yourself a bit better, and allow the rest of us enjoy opening night. Ready...

You don't like Chris Drury.

That's all this is. So you're going to root against the team in the hope that pizza boy gets fired, and someone else comes in and starts a re-re-rebuild more in line with yours and Big Dom's philosophies. You're going to twist every dumbass stat you can into evidence of your rightness, and if the Rangers do fall short of whatever moving target you set forth as a goal for them, you'll crow about being right on a message board.

Honestly, there's nothing wrong with this. I agree with none of the substance of what you're saying, but if you want to root against the team for whatever reason...go ahead and be a fan however you want. But for f*** sakes give it a rest until the team has played a few games. Rooting for the team to step on its collective dick on opening night because you don't like the asset management is really really not reading the room.

I’m pretty sure of all the possible reasons for the Rangers’ mediocrity, individual posters on message boards is close to the bottom.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I suspect Drury believes VK double deckered his office bathroom in Hartford when it was really Brandon Crawley.

 

[EdJovanovski]

And there's the problem with guys like you. The Rangers could make the playoffs this year and win a round when they get there, and you'll declare it a non-successful season because they didn't win the cup. Shit, they could win the cup, and you'd still probably say pump the breaks everybody, pizza boy didn't build a Dom approved multi cup winning contender.

Let me break this down for you...it will help you understand yourself a bit better, and allow the rest of us enjoy opening night. Ready...

You don't like Chris Drury.

That's all this is. So you're going to root against the team in the hope that pizza boy gets fired, and someone else comes in and starts a re-re-rebuild more in line with yours and Big Dom's philosophies. You're going to twist every dumbass stat you can into evidence of your rightness, and if the Rangers do fall short of whatever moving target you set forth as a goal for them, you'll crow about being right on a message board.

Honestly, there's nothing wrong with this. I agree with none of the substance of what you're saying, but if you want to root against the team for whatever reason...go ahead and be a fan however you want. But for f*** sakes give it a rest until the team has played a few games. Rooting for the team to step on its collective dick on opening night because you don't like the asset management is really really not reading the room.

I wouldn’t trust him to even manage a pizza restaurant let alone an NHL team

 

[Avery16]

I wouldn’t trust him to even manage a pizza restaurant let alone an NHL team

The Rangers truly are the Connecticut version of pizza

 

[I Eat Crow]

The Rangers truly are the Connecticut version of pizza

Listen, being a NJ native and having gone to college in Fairfield, Connecticut has some of the best pizza in the world.

 

[mas0764]

That's a pretty incredible assessment for a GM that's got exactly one NHL game under his belt after tonight.

It’s bickering.

There are obviously no final conclusions drawn on Drury yet but early returns are not good and it’s totally fair to say that.

Notwithstanding some numbskull’s dumb assertion that I just “don’t like,” Drury and want to see the team lose.