Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVI

[RangerBoy]

Makes sense. Zibby didn’t want to risk injury.
Drury would have absolutely added Eichel at his price. Whatever it was. I’m guessing he’s in the same vein if thinking Eichel from 25-30 at 10 mill with a chance to be as good or better then Zibby would have been a great add.
Seems like they were comfortable with the surgery options/health. But Adams not dropping the price because of the injury was a bridge too far.
Adams might have overplayed his hand a bit here. I still don’t see a long list of suitors that would have beat the package Drury probably would have offered.

During the Red Wings talk, Elliotte wondered what Yzerman will do with Larkin. Yzerman is trying build/add pieces. What does that mean for Larkin? They discussed Barkov's contract. Pierre LeBrun wrote about Barkov's contract. He talked to 4 NHL executives and 4 player agents. The consensus was Barkov's deal is more team friendly and he left money on the table.

 

[McRanger92]

Feels more and more everyday that Kravtsov is going to be the main trade piece for a top 6 center. Jones, too, though no fault of his own

 

[chosen]

I don’t think he would go that route again. I don’t think his agent would let him. If he feels he’s ready/ better then whose playing in front of him and he’s not getting a good long look. ( basically kind of like Gauthier under Quinn) his agent would go to Drury and quietly ask to be traded.
If it drags on and his still in Hartford for long, expect the trade request to leak to the media, again probably from his agent.
Going back to Russia again would affect his interest from teams interested in trading for him if he’s a constant flight risk.
If it’s his true dream to play in the NHL, he’ll report to Hartford no problem, it’s how long he stays down there without things getting ugly.
Some of the Kong’s fans I’ve been chatting with say that they are happy with Lias and he should make the team out of the gate this year. All of these kids want to play If they feel like their on the cusp or are ready.
This is going to be a similar problem we face on the Blue line next season. Someone is going to be pissed if they have a great camp/preseason and are basically forced to go to Hartford cause we don’t have enough spots.

When people say the plan is to stash Schneider/Robertson/Jones etc for 3 years until they can trade trouba, it’s ridiculous. Absolutely unrealistic

People, as in multiple persons, said that?

Damn Quinn for stopping the growth of Gauthier. Thankfully, Fox ignored Quinn.

 

[jay from jersey]

People, as in multiple persons, said that?

Damn Quinn for stopping the growth of Gauthier. Thankfully, Fox ignored Quinn.

Yes as in more then one.
So your logic is because he does the right thing with one player, it’s ok he does the wrong with the other?
Or are you being your usual cheerful self?
Insightful as always

 

[TheBloodyNine]

What are the Rangers plan for Ryan Strome? I’m struggling to find a reason why he’s still on this team. Rangers have committed to Mika and want Chytil to become the number 2 guy. They got Chytil on the 3rd line. He looked awful in the preseason except the one game. The Rangers aren’t winning the championship this season. Why not trade Strome and ride with Chytil as number 2? Goodrow can play C and so can Barron who is another guy they see as a future bottom 6 C on this team. Do we really need Strome in a lame duck season? The Rangers need to find out if Chytil is their guy and if not make moves to remedy that situation.

 

[Levitate]

That projected bottom 4 D makes me wanna have a glass sandwich

Crossing my fingers that Miller/Trouba steps it up when the regular season begins

Sometimes I swear you just watch them and are like "keep is simple goddammit!"
Start simple, then add the pinches and fancy plays. Both of them sometimes start running around all over and it's like goddamn you're trying to do too much right now

 

[rangers1314]

During the Red Wings talk, Elliotte wondered what Yzerman will do with Larkin. Yzerman is trying build/add pieces. What does that mean for Larkin? They discussed Barkov's contract. Pierre LeBrun wrote about Barkov's contract. He talked to 4 NHL executives and 4 player agents. The consensus was Barkov's deal is more team friendly and he left money on the table.

just came on to post the above.

Elliotte wonders aloud about Larkin again today…says Y’s main goal now is still adding futures.

 

[Levitate]

What are the Rangers plan for Ryan Strome? I’m struggling to find a reason why he’s still on this team. Rangers have committed to Mika and want Chytil to become the number 2 guy. They got Chytil on the 3rd line. He looked awful in the preseason except the one game. The Rangers aren’t winning the championship this season. Why not trade Strome and ride with Chytil as number 2? Goodrow can play C and so can Barron who is another guy they see as a future bottom 6 C on this team. Do we really need Strome in a lame duck season? The Rangers need to find out if Chytil is their guy and if not make moves to remedy that situation.

I mean honestly Strome is a perfectly fine 2C in this situation except for the fact that he'll be an UFA at the end of this year and yeah they gotta decide whether they're self renting, trading him, or somehow re-signing him.

He's on the team because I don't think there was a deal they liked and they're not comfortable rolling with Chytil as 2C

 

[jay from jersey]

What are the Rangers plan for Ryan Strome? I’m struggling to find a reason why he’s still on this team. Rangers have committed to Mika and want Chytil to become the number 2 guy. They got Chytil on the 3rd line. He looked awful in the preseason except the one game. The Rangers aren’t winning the championship this season. Why not trade Strome and ride with Chytil as number 2? Goodrow can play C and so can Barron who is another guy they see as a future bottom 6 C on this team. Do we really need Strome in a lame duck season? The Rangers need to find out if Chytil is their guy and if not make moves to remedy that situation.

Couple reason they kept him this year
- trade value isn’t high
-chemistry with panarin
-insurance in case Chytil can handle top 6 minutes
-unsure if Barron can step into a 3C role full time.
He’s def not in the plans going forward. They need his cap hit for raises.

at this point, just self rent him, and hopefully chytil can take over his duties at some point over the season.
I don’t hate strome. He can put up points which is always good, but he has too many holes elsewhere in his game. Add to the fact he’s a short term band-aid Fix on our 2C position/PP.
It delays seeing what chytil could bring centering panarin full time ( unless he shift to wing, unlikely though) and if also delays on of our young studs getting 1PP opportunities with the big boys.
Hes going to want 6.5-7 million over 5-6 seasons on his new deal, maybe more. He’s just not worth that to this team.
If chytil can handle his duties, put up similar points and play a solid 2-way game, it’s a win big time. If he can’t drury will probably like to add a more complete better 2c at the end of the year/draft via trade

 

[Machinehead]

Crossing my fingers that Miller/Trouba steps it up when the regular season begins

Sometimes I swear you just watch them and are like "keep is simple goddammit!"
Start simple, then add the pinches and fancy plays. Both of them sometimes start running around all over and it's like goddamn you're trying to do too much right now

They're not as bad as Skjei but they both have Brady Skjei Syndrome. That guy could have been an elite defender with his size and skating and has instead spent his entire career cosplaying as Brent Burns.

 

[Fitzy]

Strome is here because he is our best option at 2nd line center this season.

And he isn’t worth much in a trade.

Pretty easy

 

[Levitate]

They're not as bad as Skjei but they both have Brady Skjei Syndrome. That guy could have been an elite defender with his size and skating and has instead spent his entire career cosplaying as Brent Burns.

I still maintain that Skjei screwed himself over when he buddied up to McDonagh after his rookie season and then spent the rest of his time with the Rangers trying to pretend he was McDonagh without the skill to do so

 

[duhmetreE]

What are the Rangers plan for Ryan Strome? I’m struggling to find a reason why he’s still on this team. Rangers have committed to Mika and want Chytil to become the number 2 guy. They got Chytil on the 3rd line. He looked awful in the preseason except the one game. The Rangers aren’t winning the championship this season. Why not trade Strome and ride with Chytil as number 2? Goodrow can play C and so can Barron who is another guy they see as a future bottom 6 C on this team. Do we really need Strome in a lame duck season? The Rangers need to find out if Chytil is their guy and if not make moves to remedy that situation.

Ryan Strome on the Rangers > The return of Ryan Strome trade. It's that simple. He's more valuable to the team than what he'd be traded for.

He's a self rental.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Strome is here because he is our best option at 2nd line center this season.

And he isn’t worth much in a trade.

Pretty easy

What's the plan for next year? Strome's likely not to be here and the Rangers aren't winning the cup this season, so what's the long term solution here?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Ryan Strome on the Rangers > The return of Ryan Strome trade. It's that simple. He's more valuable to the team than what he'd be traded for.

He's a self rental.

What can they get? Will they get an asset that will actually be here past next season? Strome isnt gonna be on this team past this season. But that's not really my point here. My point is that Chytil appears to be their long term solution at 2C but we'll never know if he's the guy there until he actually plays there. The Rangers can't get a 2nd for Strome? There was interest in him over the summer. The return isn't even what really matters here. What's the long term outlook at 2C. Will the Rangers be re-signing him? Why wait, sign him.

 

[Machinehead]

Strome is our 2C. Like, hard stop.

We're not rebuilding anymore.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I mean honestly Strome is a perfectly fine 2C in this situation except for the fact that he'll be an UFA at the end of this year and yeah they gotta decide whether they're self renting, trading him, or somehow re-signing him.

He's on the team because I don't think there was a deal they liked and they're not comfortable rolling with Chytil as 2C

If they ain't comfortable rolling with Chytil as 2C when is that going to be? When are they going to know that? Why is that decision being deferred for a year? Seems like a complete waste of time for everybody involved.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Strome is our 2C. Like, hard stop.

We're not rebuilding anymore.

No reason for the Rangers to wait then, drop an extension on him if that's the case.

 

[Fitzy]

What's the plan for next year? Strome's likely not to be here and the Rangers aren't winning the cup this season, so what's the long term solution here?

To make the playoffs, as has been said before.

Why did we trade for one year of Rucchin in 05-06? You try to field a good team, make the playoffs, and once you’re there you’ve got a free shot at the cup, whatever the odds

 

[Tob]

If Drury likes Chytil at C, then Strome is gone at the 1st if someone offers a 1st or a 2nd and a good prospect. If Chytil isn't the answer at 2C, then Jones and Kravtsov are gone.

 

[Atax]

What can they get? Will they get an asset that will actually be here past next season? Strome isnt gonna be on this team past this season. But that's not really my point here. My point is that Chytil appears to be their long term solution at 2C but we'll never know if he's the guy there until he actually plays there. The Rangers can't get a 2nd for Strome? There was interest in him over the summer. The return isn't even what really matters here. What's the long term outlook at 2C. Will the Rangers be re-signing him? Why wait, sign him.

I'd rather keep Strome for the year instead of a 2nd round pick. Id rather have the depth and see what the guys look like at the end of the season.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

To make the playoffs, as has been said before.

Why did we trade for one year of Rucchin in 05-06? You try to field a good team, make the playoffs, and once you’re there you’ve got a free shot at the cup, whatever the odds

The Rangers can make the playoffs without Ryan Strome. If the Rangers can't then they can find out a bit more about their weaknesses and what to address. Right now they are just kicking the can down the road.

 

[Atax]

You're underestimating the value Strome provides to this team.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

You're underestimating the value Strome provides to this team.

So then they should sign him right? What's the hold up? Lock him in.

 

[bl02]

Only way we are remotely trading Strome is if we are totally out of it by the TDL which would be a nightmare on so many fronts. And I totally understand 95 percent he won't be here next year.