Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXII

[Avery16]

 

[Fitzy]

I suspect Gorts will continue to pull his punches, since he almost certainly will be interested in a GM job elsewhere in the league.

 

[Ola]

Happened to a co-worker or mine this past April. 27 year old kid. Super fit. Looked like he stepped out of the Jersey Shore cast lol. Worked a full day then at some point in the evening he started having difficulty breathing. Went to the ER and his heart just stops. Freaked me the hell out because I’m almost 20 years older and about 10k cheeseburgers ahead of him.

Yeah, and there are no guarantees, but these guys do get checked up so often.

Hayes seem to have been up and around just until it happend, but viruses take a few lives out of the blue every now and then too. Meningitis, myocarditis and so forth.

 

[Ola]

I suspect Gorts will continue to pull his punches, since he almost certainly will be interested in a GM job elsewhere in the league.

Yeah, and Gorts isn’t the punching type either, right? Would be surprised if he ever came out swinging…

 

[brakeyawself]

I should've clarified my earlier post. The Rangers didn't draft Kakko to wing the Selke Trophy in mind; but if he does, good for him! Would still be an asset to the team. Just that I think they had offensive production in mind.

But if he does become proficient defensively and contributes offensively like they think he can, he is only player you don't trade for anyone (besides for MacDavid, MacKinnon, etc. Lol)

Unless you are the Senators. Then you trade him for an ok Swedish D prospect who probably won't reach his ceiling, an ok forward and a late 2nd round pick.

 

[brakeyawself]

What did they draft McIlrath for?

Or Lias?

I am not saying that photo is real or not but leave the BS about WHY our drafting "experts" chose him out of the others.

ANY pseudo hockey fan takes Kakko AFTER the NJD take Hughes.

Don't give "me" credit for blinking my eyes or breathing.

You mean every other single NHL team would have drafted Kakko in that spot right? I mean, because I can't think of one NHL that wouldn't have. All though, it might have been nice to get Jack Hughes AND then Lafreniere. But beggars can't be choosers.

A lot of people thought Hawks reached for Dach after him, expecting Turcotte to go at 3. But now, with Turcotte and Dach's extended injuries, Anaheim is looking like they could have the best of that year's center's, after Hughes, with Zegras at 9. Frankly, I would be happy with any of Hughes, Zegras, Dach, Krebs, Newhook or Turcotte on the Rangers. And I still think, pray rather, that Turcotte could still end up a Ranger one day because of the Kings excess of young center riches. Dach though, it's still TBD, but I am not sure he's going to be the franchise center the Hawks were betting on. though. And either Krebs or Newhook could end up being better than either or both of Turcotte and Dach. This year will tell a lot.

But I think all things considered, we made the only choice we could have on the day. And I think it's going to work out just fine.

 

[IDvsEGO]

You mean every other single NHL team would have drafted Kakko in that spot right? I mean, because I can't think of one NHL that wouldn't have. All though, it might have been nice to get Jack Hughes AND then Lafreniere. But beggars can't be choosers.

A lot of people thought Hawks reached for Dach after him, expecting Turcotte to go at 3. But now, with Turcotte and Dach's extended injuries, Anaheim is looking like they could have the best of that year's center's, after Hughes, with Zegras at 9. Frankly, I would be happy with any of Hughes, Zegras, Dach, Krebs, Newhook or Turcotte on the Rangers. And I still think, pray rather, that Turcotte could still end up a Ranger one day because of the Kings excess of young center riches. Dach though, it's still TBD, but I am not sure he's going to be the franchise center the Hawks were betting on. though. And either Krebs or Newhook could end up being better than either or both of Turcotte and Dach. This year will tell a lot.

But I think all things considered, we made the only choice we could have on the day. And I think it's going to work out just fine.

Im pretty sure dach was the consensus 3.

 

[brakeyawself]

Im pretty sure dach was the consensus 3.

Nope, Turcotte was the #3 from a lot of outlets from what I remember, followed by Byram. Some had Byram ahead of Tucotte. Actually, it might have been Byram and not Turcotte. But either way usually Turcotte and Byram in either order. Some did have Dach at 3, but it wasn't the majority at all from memory. More had Byram at 3 than Dach. Guess it depends where you are looking. But there was no real "consensus" number 3. To be fair, the major debate was Dach or Turcotte unless the Hawks were going for a D in which case it was hands down Byram.

Sportingnews had a wacky one, and I think their top 3 could prove legit when all is said and done. One of the few who had Zegras at 3 or even that early. NHL Draft.com also. But then sportingnews had Podkolzin right after so....

CSS did have Byram at 2, Dach at 3 in their final NA rankings. But I am not sure if he was at 3 for many months prior. So if you put Kakko at 2, that still leaves Dach at 4. There was a lot of discussion about who the best center after Hughes would be. Right now, it might actually be looking like Zegras. That year still might prove to be one of the best center classes ever. Hughes, Dach, Turcotte, Zegras, Newhook, Krebs, Cozens, Tomasino, McMichael. Tomasino, McMichael, Krebs, Newhook looking like absolute steals right now. I mean Caufield was pick 15 lol and looking like the best winger, hopefully after Kakko, from that draft. But it would be a bit painful if Caufield turned out better than Kakko in the long run. Right now, at least offensively, Caufield does look like the better point producer and definitely superior shooter. He'l never have the defensive or physical game that Kakko will have though. And Kakko still needs to work on his shooting. It's going to be very important if he's going to be a power forward in the NHL.

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[Ori]

About New York Rangers and a new NHL season enjoy

 

[brakeyawself]

About New York Rangers and a new NHL season enjoy

Love that guy. You know this is his life, not just a job or hobby. He literally wears a new sweater and new hat in every video. I would be really curious to see his closetS. Because he has to have like, a whole room for just sweaters and hats, not even counting other NHL gear and nicknacks.

 

[huerter]

What's up everyone? I took a little hiatus cause I knew things were gonna be popping off and I didn't want to be in refresh mode 24/7. And boy did things pop off. After a 500+ day dry spell we traded for Goodrow, Blais, and Reaves in like a two week window. Then toss in Nemeth. That is just some great work. But we all know what the mission was for this offseason. 3 and 3. So I can't help but feel like we didn't do enough of a transformation. Can we be an awesome, dynamic, championship caliber team in the near future? Absolutely. But did we have an offseason that will set us up to achieve transformative excellence? I'd be lying if I said yes. What say you?

 

[Barnaby]

Hayes thing sounds like an OD or maybe suicide. Sometimes young people drop dead out of the blue, but more often than not there’s more involved. A buddy from Boston EMS texted me what he heard, but I don’t want to pass on unsubstantiated rumors about a father who passed.

 

[Barnaby]

What's up everyone? I took a little hiatus cause I knew things were gonna be popping off and I didn't want to be in refresh mode 24/7. And boy did things pop off. After a 500+ day dry spell we traded for Goodrow, Blais, and Reaves in like a two week window. Then toss in Nemeth. That is just some great work. But we all know what the mission was for this offseason. 3 and 3. So I can't help but feel like we didn't do enough of a transformation. Can we be an awesome, dynamic, championship caliber team in the near future? Absolutely. But did we have an offseason that will set us up to achieve transformative excellence? I'd be lying if I said yes. What say you?

It’s funny. I don’t “love” any of the moves as a stand-alone, but are they a better team today than 6 months ago? I’d say absolutely.

 

[Lays]

You mean every other single NHL team would have drafted Kakko in that spot right? I mean, because I can't think of one NHL that wouldn't have. All though, it might have been nice to get Jack Hughes AND then Lafreniere. But beggars can't be choosers.

A lot of people thought Hawks reached for Dach after him, expecting Turcotte to go at 3. But now, with Turcotte and Dach's extended injuries, Anaheim is looking like they could have the best of that year's center's, after Hughes, with Zegras at 9. Frankly, I would be happy with any of Hughes, Zegras, Dach, Krebs, Newhook or Turcotte on the Rangers. And I still think, pray rather, that Turcotte could still end up a Ranger one day because of the Kings excess of young center riches. Dach though, it's still TBD, but I am not sure he's going to be the franchise center the Hawks were betting on. though. And either Krebs or Newhook could end up being better than either or both of Turcotte and Dach. This year will tell a lot.

But I think all things considered, we made the only choice we could have on the day. And I think it's going to work out just fine.

I would still take Kakko over Hughes fwiw. I had him at #1 that draft and still do. People need to be patient with him. Slow powerforwards almost never make an immediate impact and I’ve been calling that Kakko will take time to breakout for a while

 

[Barnaby]

I would still take Kakko over Hughes fwiw. I had him at #1 that draft and still do. People need to be patient with him. Slow powerforwards almost never make an immediate impact and I’ve been calling that Kakko will take time to breakout for a while

Im a Kakko fan, but I’m taking the elite skating center 10/10. Hughes should be a PPG center within a couple years. That’s the guy you lock up for 8 years and don’t think twice.

 

[IDvsEGO]

It’s funny. I don’t “love” any of the moves as a stand-alone, but are they a better team today than 6 months ago? I’d say absolutely.

How much of that is moving kakko and kratsov into the top 6 and the assumption of growth for the kids though.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Im a Kakko fan, but I’m taking the elite skating center 10/10. Hughes should be a PPG center within a couple years.

The knock on hughes is his size, and he's not exactly 5'6. I really like kakko but im taking hughes as well, even if i think he might struggle in the playoffs more than someone like kakko.

 

[huerter]

It’s funny. I don’t “love” any of the moves as a stand-alone, but are they a better team today than 6 months ago? I’d say absolutely.

No doubt. But I'd feel better if we had done the full 3 and 3 rather than like a 1.5 and 1.5.

 

[Barnaby]

How much of that is moving kakko and kratsov into the top 6 and the assumption of growth for the kids though.

That’s fair, but I’m referring more to the depth. I think Drury changed the dynamic and overall mentality of the team in a positive way. I’m not saying he had an A+, grand slam offseason but overall I think he did a nice job. I think Goodrow, Reaves, and Blais will add some swagger.

I just wish he could’ve added a strong 2-way 2nd line center, but I realize that’s easier said than done.

 

[Lays]

Im a Kakko fan, but I’m taking the elite skating center 10/10. Hughes should be a PPG center within a couple years. That’s the guy you lock up for 8 years and don’t think twice.

Hughes is not someone you want in your locker room. I think he ends up like Gaudreau. A bit of a party kid, soft, will likely be PPG+ but not someone you want in the playoffs.

Kakko is one of the only players in history to have 3 gold medals before stepping foot in the NHL and always has been known as a big time player. His mentality is much better than Hughes. Kakko reminds me a bit of a Landeskog.

So who would you rather have, Gaudreau that can play C or Landeskog? Tough choice but I take Landeskog

And I’m not trying to be biased here, I’ve felt this way even before we won the #2 pick.

 

[BroadwayHustle]

Hayes thing sounds like an OD or maybe suicide. Sometimes young people drop dead out of the blue, but more often than not there’s more involved. A buddy from Boston EMS texted me what he heard, but I don’t want to pass on unsubstantiated rumors about a father who passed.

I would say the former based on an ex-coworker who was a mutual friend. I think some other people have mentioned it about Kevin as well when he was on the team with some sources.

 

[Barnaby]

I would say the former based on an ex-coworker who was a mutual friend. I think some other people have mentioned it about Kevin as well when he was on the team with some sources.

That’s pretty much what I heard...

 

[Barnaby]

Hughes is not someone you want in your locker room. I think he ends up like Gaudreau. A bit of a party kid, soft, will likely be PPG+ but not someone you want in the playoffs.

Kakko is one of the only players in history to have 3 gold medals before stepping foot in the NHL and always has been known as a big time player. His mentality is much better than Hughes. Kakko reminds me a bit of a Landeskog.

So who would you rather have, Gaudreau that can play C or Landeskog? Tough choice but I take Landeskog

And I’m not trying to be biased here, I’ve felt this way even before we won the #2 pick.

I can’t really speak to Hughes. He sounds pretty good in interviews, but who knows. I don’t know anything else about him. I don’t know about the playoff thing. I’ll have to wait and see. You can say the same about a Pat Kane but he always performs.

I do like Kakko, but I don’t get the Landeskog vibe at all. Landeskog is very bright, articulate, and outspoken. Kakko strikes me as more of a quiet introverted kind of kid.

 

[bobbop]

An interesting story from the 2019 draft that I have posted before. There was wild disagreement in the Blackhawks draft room. The scouts wanted Zegras. As late as the afternnooon before the draft, I was told Zegras. They were overruled by management.

 

[SA16]

An interesting story from the 2019 draft that I have posted before. There was wild disagreement in the Blackhawks draft room. The scouts wanted Zegras. As late as the afternnooon before the draft, I was told Zegras. They were overruled by management.

That is, in fact, managements job.