Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVIII

[Avery16]

Ideally, our F holes are middle-six.

Lemieux/Howden/Gauthier are best deployed getting good minutes on the 4th line. Chytil and Kakko should still get third line minutes.

As much as I’d like to see Kravtsov, Barron and Gettinger, they aren’t ready for NHL third or fourth line minutes on the regular yet.

Assuming Kreider shifts to RW and we draft Lafreniere, we just need a 2C and a 3LW. Maybe Fast could play with Chytil/Kakko. Maybe Andersson returns and can hold 4C, pushing Howden to 3LW. Either would leave us needing only a 2C.

No one within is ready for 2C. If we push Chytil there, no one within is ready for 3C. One way or another, we need a middle-six C.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Ideally, our F holes are middle-six.

Lemieux/Howden/Gauthier are best deployed getting good minutes on the 4th line. Chytil and Kakko should still get third line minutes.

As much as I’d like to see Kravtsov, Barron and Gettinger, they aren’t ready for NHL third or fourth line minutes on the regular yet.

Assuming Kreider shifts to RW and we draft Lafreniere, we just need a 2C and a 3LW. Maybe Fast could play with Chytil/Kakko. Maybe Andersson returns and can hold 4C, pushing Howden to 3LW. Either would leave us needing only a 2C.

No one within is ready for 2C. If we push Chytil there, no one within is ready for 3C. One way or another, we need a middle-six C.

Soooo, Strome?

 

[Avery16]

Soooo, Strome?

Unfit to play.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

You can just inject this into my veins. Thanks.

 

[RGY]

+1 for Joe Thornton.

I wanted to mention Joe Thornton but figured I’d be run out of here by the everyone who hates having players over the age of 28.

But quite frankly, he wont cost much in cap space and he will provide veteran leadership and experience to help push this team along. He can play 3C and be a buffer for a lot of the adversity thrown a team’s way day to day, week to week.

i still would want to upgrade Strome at 2C

 

[RGY]

Kreider reminds me of Knuble, only Knuble was a much harder worker..

Now Kreider isnt a hard worker?

My gawd your takes are absolutely brutal.

 

[Thirty One]

How did he perform there?

56.68 CF %, 46.97 xGF%, 20 GF, 4 GA

 

[kovazub94]

Gorton can be pretty persistent and we know that he has gone after Puljujärvi hard last season.

Pulju has impressed in Finland. Played a physical game and shown all kinds of determination. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gorton still was very intrigued by him. Could be one of those Fox type of trades. The value could be really good.

This is where Lias comes in with a good season in the SHL.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I'd rather just keep our forward depth we have at the moment and find some cheap options at LD. See what Detroit wants for Nemeth, sign someone like UFA to replace and upgrade on Staal.

 

[Avery16]

Gorton can be pretty persistent and we know that he has gone after Puljujärvi hard last season.

Pulju has impressed in Finland. Played a physical game and shown all kinds of determination. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gorton still was very intrigued by him. Could be one of those Fox type of trades. The value could be really good.

Has he ever played LW?
Puljujarvi/Chytil/Kakko would be an interesting third line.

 

[TominNC]

Why are we moving Kreider to the off wing? He can be the 3rd line LW and make the team stronger with depth.

 

[Savant]

If Buchnevich is traded in a package for C/LD then we are short on RW depth... any ideas?

Kreider to RW. But that’s why I would be reluctant to trade Buchnevich. Creates another problem.

 

[Avery16]

Why are we moving Kreider to the off wing? He can be the 3rd line LW and make the team stronger with depth.

it balances the scoring depth between LW and RW. Otherwise, Buch>Kakko>Fast>Gauthier. Gauthier is playing 7 minutes a night, Kakko a sophomore, Fast still just a great checker, and Buch is a pending RFA probably pushing it as 1RW. Having Kreider, Lafreniere, Panarin and Buchnevich all in your top six, with Chytil and Kakko on the third line is much better strength in depth across the top nine.

 

[Savant]

The Rangers are not in win now mode, at all.

Panarin is a bridge to whenever we get to win now mode.

The bridge is here. If you have two Hart caliber players you can contend. They added two of the best three prospects in the last two drafts. If Igor can do what Carter Hart did there is zero reason the Rangers can’t make a run with some veteran tweaks.

 

[HonestGabe]

The Rangers are not in win now mode, at all.

Panarin is a bridge to whenever we get to win now mode.

... a seven year bridge contract?

 

[UnSandvich]

I've posted the numbers before, but we should remember to be mindful of just how much Kreider and Zibanejad's numbers shot up when playing with Buch as opposed to without. It was night and day. If we're trading him, we need to be very careful who goes there with them, or it could torpedo the line. Over the past few season's Kreider's play-driving numbers have been trending down, and Zibanejad's never had particularly amazing ones from what I can remember.

 

[McRanger]

He can play RW but I wouldn’t mind keeping Kreider at LW. We need to give 3 lines a lot of minutes at ES.

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lafreniere-Zibanejad-?
Kreider-Chytil-Buchnevich


Zibs RW is either addressed with a trade, is Kakko (if we re-sign Fast and he stays with Panarin or we add a center and Strome shifts over) is Chytil (if we acquire a center and Strome stays at center) or is some combination of Kravtsov (if he’s ready) Gauthier or Lemieux (moving to RW).

4th line is some combination of (a hopefully vastly improved) Howden and whoever is left.

It’s weird having so much talent on the 3rd line but I wouldn’t be surprised if AL and MZ are a good fit and Panarin stays with Strome.

 

[Cag29]

A $6.5M/ 7yr 3rd liner.
Tell me more about how billiant JG is again..

Gorton is doing an outstanding job! IMHO.

 

[DanielBrassard]

He can play RW but I wouldn’t mind keeping Kreider at LW. We need to give 3 lines a lot of minutes at ES.

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lafreniere-Zibanejad-?
Kreider-Chytil-Buchnevich


Zibs RW is either addressed with a trade, is Kakko (if we re-sign Fast and he stays with Panarin or we add a center and Strome shifts over) is Chytil (if we acquire a center and Strome stays at center) or is some combination of Kravtsov (if he’s ready) Gauthier or Lemieux (moving to RW).

4th line is some combination of (a hopefully vastly improved) Howden and whoever is left.

It’s weird having so much talent on the 3rd line but I wouldn’t be surprised if AL and MZ are a good fit and Panarin stays with Strome.

Re-sign Fast, reunite Panarin-Strome-Fast, Laf-Zib-Kakko, Kreider-Chytil-Buch

 

[Cag29]

Ideally, our F holes are middle-six.

Lemieux/Howden/Gauthier are best deployed getting good minutes on the 4th line. Chytil and Kakko should still get third line minutes.

As much as I’d like to see Kravtsov, Barron and Gettinger, they aren’t ready for NHL third or fourth line minutes on the regular yet.

Assuming Kreider shifts to RW and we draft Lafreniere, we just need a 2C and a 3LW. Maybe Fast could play with Chytil/Kakko. Maybe Andersson returns and can hold 4C, pushing Howden to 3LW. Either would leave us needing only a 2C.

No one within is ready for 2C. If we push Chytil there, no one within is ready for 3C. One way or another, we need a middle-six C.

Are you trading Strome? In your scenario.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He can play RW but I wouldn’t mind keeping Kreisler at LW. We need to give 3 lines a lot of minutes at ES.

Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lafreniere-Zibanejad-?
Kreider-Chytil-Buchnevich


Zibs RW is either addressed with a trade, is Kakko (if we re-sign Fast and he stays with Panarin or we add a center and Strome shifts over) is Chytil (if we acquire a center and Strome stays at center) or is some combination of Kravtsov (if he’s ready) Gauthier or Lemieux (moving to RW).

4th line is some combination of (a hopefully vastly improved) Howden and whoever is left.

It’s weird having so much talent on the 3rd line but I wouldn’t be surprised if AL and MZ are a good fit and Panarin stays with Strome.

This is the combo I want as well. Put Laf with the team's best shooter and let him beast out. Fast could work here on the opposite wing, but Fast could really work anywhere. Gauthier could work here as well and I think Laf would do wonders for him.

My issue with that group of forwards is that they're too homogenous. I almost feel like moving one of Buchnevich or Chytil needs to be done just to get a deeper mix (Panarin and Kreider are going no where, they aren't trading Kakko, they aren't trading the 1OA and I'd love to upgrade Strome, but that will likely require one of those 2 going the other way+)

They aren't going to roll with the same group of forwards +Laf next year. Changes are going to be made and I doubt that they will just be the 4th line variety (though this is an area that needs to be hit.)

Also, I don't understand why people are so married to players and which wing they're playing on. Im relatively confident that Panarin could play on the right side and be just fine, same with Laf. Kreider's already done it.

 

[Avery16]

Are you trading Strome? In your scenario.

Ideally.

 

[bl02]

This is the combo I want as well. Put Laf with the team's best shooter and let him beast out. Fast could work here on the opposite wing, but Fast could really work anywhere. Gauthier could work here as well and I think Laf would do wonders for him.

My issue with that group of forwards is that they're too homogenous. I almost feel like moving one of Buchnevich or Chytil needs to be done just to get a deeper mix (Panarin and Kreider are going no where, they aren't trading Kakko, they aren't trading the 1OA and I'd love to upgrade Strome, but that will likely require one of those 2 going the other way+)

They aren't going to roll with the same group of forwards +Laf next year. Changes are going to be made and I doubt that they will just be the 4th line variety (though this is an area that needs to be hit.)

Also, I don't understand why people are so married to players and which wing they're playing on. Im relatively confident that Panarin could play on the right side and be just fine, same with Laf. Kreider's already done it.

As long as Panarin doesn't play the right side on the pp.

 

[bobbop]

It would be interesting to see if the Rangers would trade someone like ADA for a young 2C and NOT being in a long term LD that requires protection this season. Find a stop-gap for a year at LD and then when next year rolls around look around the league to see which teams can’t protect all of their d-men. Having a protection slot open on defense could be HUGE.

I’m also intrigued by Turris is he gets bought out. Even on a 2-3 year deal. He can play RW or Center and perennially has been a good face off guy. He’d be a nice veteran presence up the middle and that term length of 2-3 years wouldn’t be bad as it would align with when other players will need raises. Worst case scenario is he slides down to be a veteran RWer on the 3rd line or 4th line center if Howden takes a big step. His cap hit, if bought out and signed, shouldn’t be too bad.

If the Rangers trade DeAngelo, it likely means they will have a protection spot available.

 

[mas0764]

... a seven year bridge contract?

Its very possible the Rangers are contenders during the life of that contract, but they aren’t right now.