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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVII

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NYRangers0723 said:
Absolutely. Nothing personal but Strome benefits playing with Panarin. When he doesn’t he is basically useless
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he scored 20 goals on a 3rd line with Names and Fast.

Strome is fine for the next year or two. He'll be affordable. Problem becomes when he's a UFA.

We need a 3C thats not a liability, can win faceoffs, PK and matchup... Not having Fast in the top6 will also help
 
GeorgeKaplan said:
The problem with that is that the Rangers pretty much announced that they’re committed to Brett Howden, and you’d be giving up assets and cap space for Jankowski
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Even if they're committed to Howden, there is nothing wrong with having 2 centers on the 4th line.

Our most successful 4th line pretty much ever had Boyle and Moore on it.

Now if Howden is being relied on in a top 9 role, thats no good.
 
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Lafreniere Zibanejad Kreider
Panarin Strome Kakko
Lemieux Bonino Chytil/Fast
Gauthier Howden Fast/Chytil

Ekholm Trouba
Lindgren Fox
youngLHD ADA
 
NYRangers0723 said:
Absolutely. Nothing personal but Strome benefits playing with Panarin. When he doesn’t he is basically useless
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He had 8 points in 10 games to start the year on a different line than panarin. He also played well for us last year. I'm not saying that spot shouldn't be upgraded but let's not pretend he's Grachev. He isn't useless without panarin, he's better with him but who isn't? I've had players who i played with that couldn't carry a line but if you put them with like thinking players they lit it up, if it works it works. If you are upgrading the 2c spot you better be really sure it's not gonna take a step back especially if you are giving up assets to do it. Kyle Turris was mentioned here by someone, that would be a gamble that would be terribly unnecessary. He has struggled since he left Ottawa, I would be really annoyed if that was the player we sought out when we had Strome meshing well with panarin already.
 
duhmetreE said:
Lafreniere Zibanejad Kreider
Panarin Strome Kakko
Lemieux Bonino Chytil/Fast
Gauthier Howden Fast/Chytil

Ekholm Trouba
Lindgren Fox
youngLHD ADA
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I would say LD is the most important position to improve but with expansion in a year it’s not happening
 
duhmetreE said:
he scored 20 goals on a 3rd line with Names and Fast.

Strome is fine for the next year or two. He'll be affordable. Problem becomes when he's a UFA.

We need a 3C thats not a liability, can win faceoffs, PK and matchup... Not having Fast in the top6 will also help
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Strome has never scored 20 goals. If he wants a dime over his QO, let alone 5-7M AAV, I will need to see something without a Hart candidate before I would give him anything
 
So apparently we had a Lafreniere on the Rangers before

battlehim said:
I just noticed in that clip that there was a Ranger with the name Lafreniere. Now I see that Alexis Lafreniere's dad was a Ranger (Jason) for a little bit. Fun fact.
Edit: Woah. Now I see that Jason Lafreniere's dad was also an NHLer:

Roger Joseph Lafrenière (b. July 24, 1942 in Montreal, Quebec - d. June 22, 2009) was a professional ice hockey defenceman who played 13 games in the National Hockey League (NHL) with the Detroit Red Wings and St. Louis Blues.[1] Roger is the father of NHL player Jason Lafreniere.

So when Alexis makes it to the NHL, could this be the first grandfather-father-son to have played in the NHL or any pro sport?
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But it wasn’t his dad lol his dads name is Hugo, there is no relation
 
Dactyl said:
Strome has never scored 20 goals. If he wants a dime over his QO, let alone 5-7M AAV, I will need to see something without a Hart candidate before I would give him anything
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Well you'd have to be willing to watch i guess, he was good after he adjusted to our team after coming from Edmonton and he had 8 points in 10 games before Mika got hurt and panarin joined his line this year. He is probably a 40-50 point player without panarin, he had a career year with panarin but so did panarin so they each benefitted from the marriage as much as people wanna try and dimish it. If it works why break it, unless you have a sure fire better option, which we don't.
 
KreiderBomb said:
Well you'd have to be willing to watch i guess, he was good after he adjusted to our team after coming from Edmonton and he had 8 points in 10 games before Mika got hurt and panarin joined his line this year. He is probably a 40-50 point player without panarin, he had a career year with panarin but so did panarin so they each benefitted from the marriage as much as people wanna try and dimish it. If it works why break it, unless you have a sure fire better option, which we don't.
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His shooting % was stupid in that stretch though. I do think Strome has an ability to be aware of Panarin. I just happen to not think that ability is unique to Strome. I do not believe Strome is the reason AP had his best season to date. I would hope for a center with the awareness of strome along with anything else positive in his game.
 
Dactyl said:
This really is not my MO when it comes to workers rights and all that, but like if you are getting paid that much money to be a pro at playing a game....get in the bubble. The PA will have an opt out option, but I think there would be enough interest from the majority to have a season. We may need 4 bubbles (1 per division) with some inter-bubble play. But the NHL has been the league that has done the best with managing the pandemic so far. Its rare to complement their achievements when talking about the major leagues.
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7 or 8 teams playing each other every day isn't really gonna make much of a season imo. Hopefully a vaccine is ready by Jan but if not I can't see it starting up under a bubble scenario.
 
Dactyl said:
His shooting % was stupid in that stretch though. I do think Strome has an ability to be aware of Panarin. I just happen to not think that ability is unique to Strome. I do not believe Strome is the reason AP had his best season to date. I would hope for a center with the awareness of strome along with anything else positive in his game.
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Its not unique to strome but its unique to our team outside of Zibanajad. Panarin has had some serious linemates so far in the league yet he ended up with his highest total on a line with Strome......and Fast.
There's no reason to not believe their chemistry aided Panarin's best season because he has been in the league since 2015 and he never came close to the points he got this year, he was on pace for 112 points, his highest before this year was was 87, 25 points less. Breaking that up without knowing for sure you had a guy to replace strome would be crazy.
 
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KreiderBomb said:
7 or 8 teams playing each other every day isn't really gonna make much of a season imo. Hopefully a vaccine is ready by Jan but if not I can't see it starting up under a bubble scenario.
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The vaccine makes me nervous with the timeline. The studies are important and shouldnt be cut short. IDK what they could do, but I really hope for a season soon after this one ends.


The good thing is the NHL has done this right. The MLB and the plan for the NFL look like jokes compared to what we have done. I surprisingly trust the league's management going forward based on how they handled this
 
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KreiderBomb said:
Its not unique to strome but its unique to our team outside of Zibanajad. Panarin has had some serious linemates so far in the league yet he ended up with his highest total on a line with Strome......and Fast.
There's no reason to not believe their chemistry aided Panarin's best season because he has been in the league since 2015 and he never came close to the points he got this year, he was on pace for 112 points, his highest before this year was was 87, 25 points less. Breaking that up without knowing for sure you had a guy to replace strome would be crazy.
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I think if Chytil is given a real chance, he could at the very least do Strome's job. The problem is that I don't think anyone other than Strome was given a legitimate shot with AP.

panarar91
 
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Chytil won’t get a legit shot with Strome still here because Quinn is about as risk averse as it gets

Except with Brett Howden, evidently he’s the exception
 
Dactyl said:
I think if Chytil is given a real chance, he could at the very least do Strome's job. The problem is that I don't think anyone other than Strome was given a legitimate shot with AP.

panarar91
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I don't find their styles complimentary, and my guess is its not Quinn that has the issue with it, its likely Panarin. Nothing wrong with Chytil but he's taking the puck to the net or working it into the corner, that's his style of play and for a player like panarin who likes the give and go's, likes to play more east west its frustrating. Maybe Chytil becomes more of a playmaker but as of now he isn't and there's little reason to think Chytil on that line would make Panarin a 120 point player.
 
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