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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLVI

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Irishguy42 said:
Anaheim probably does.
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As thin as Anaheim is up front they are even more thin at defense. DeAngelo would give them a defenseman with team control for the foreseeable future for Lindholm whom they'd probably lose for nothing in two summers.

A middle six winger, decent wing prospect and a 1st is probably shallow in terms of value for Zegras yes, but DeAngelo is worth a bit more than Lindholm in terms of value. Maybe another middle of the road defensive prospect that we can throw in to get this done?
 
Yeah there's no way Anaheim gives up Zegras. That was the one downside of winning Kakko last year but it is what it is.

That being said, I do think the Rangers will keep their ear to the ground for additional center prospects. Strome is a fine stop-gap until Chytil is ready to take over, but that also makes the assumption that Chytil will in fact take over. If he ends up being a guy who is much better on the wing, the Rangers don't really have anyone in the system behind him who looks like they could eventually get there. That's a trade that can be made later of course but if a guy like Glass, Newhook, Krebs, or whomever pops up then maybe they jump on it. We know they love to circle back to guys they were high on at the draft.

That's why Vegas is an interesting trade partner. If they really want an offensive RD to add to the lineup, they have two center prospects we know the team likes. They also have Alex Tuch who is locked up at a reasonable hit for a long while and brings the kind of game that the team is keen on adding. They're also in need of an heir to Fleury.
 
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Pawnee Rangers said:
He was on pace to score 30+ points last season and that's with starting the year in Hartford.
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You're massaging numbers and ignoring reality. He had a great November. After that, he was producing at a fraction of that pace.

November was an aberration, from December on he had 44 games 6 goals 7 assists.

He's a defensive liability and he's atrocious at faceoffs. He's at best when he's carrying the puck. He will not be carrying the puck in the top6.
 
I'm hopeful the team can parlay Strome into some sort of fix at LD. If they were able to do that, St Louis would be an interesting team to fill that hole with Bozak.

They're gonna have to shed some salary next year, I wonder if they'd be willing to part with Blias as well. Bozak as the 2C for a stopgap year and having Blias play on the 4th line would add some depth.

Wonder if Lias + a pick would interest them. I'd probably ask them to retain on Bozak a bit but they'd be able to clear 3-4 million of space with this deal
 
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duhmetreE said:
You're massaging numbers and ignoring reality. He had a great November. After that, he was producing at a fraction of that pace.

November was an aberration, from December on he had 44 games 6 goals 7 assists.

He's a defensive liability and he's atrocious at faceoffs. He's at best when he's carrying the puck. He will not be carrying the puck in the top6.
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In november he played with Buchnevich and Kreider, after that he played with Howden and the shitty version of Kakko.
His decline is perfectly justified when you put this in perspective.
 
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duhmetreE said:
You're massaging numbers and ignoring reality. He had a great November. After that, he was producing at a fraction of that pace.

November was an aberration, from December on he had 44 games 6 goals 7 assists.

He's a defensive liability and is atrocious at faceoffs. He's at best when he's carrying the puck. He will not be carrying the puck in the top6.
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He's 20 and far from a finished product. Kids can improve past the age of 19 years old. Faceoffs can be learned and lots of young players are not good defensively their first few years.
 
Ola said:
I like that, how much could Tampa match?
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They have ~5.3M in space right now with 10F-3D-2G signed. RFA's are Cirelli, Sergachev, Stephens, Verhaeghe, and Cernak. UFAs are Maroon, Shattenkirk, Rutta, Bogosian, and Schenn.

Most of their players are under some form of NTC/NMC/MNTC except for Goodrow (1/.925), Coleman (1/1.8), McElhinney (1/1.3), or Paquette (1/1.65). Point and Vasi don't have them, but Tampa isn't trading them. In total, those four contracts are 5.675M, so they could make ~11M in space available

Here's the compensation tiers relevant to this discussion (in my opinion):
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The Rangers could probably push for the higher end of the 6.34M-8.46M tier to force Tampa's hand on one of Sergachev/Cirelli. Obviously the Rangers have some cap/roster considerations to make as well.
 
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More that I think about it, it probably makes sense to not invest in a D who is on a contract with more than 1 year on it. Right now we are in a pretty good position in terms of the expansion draft and although we should be a playoff team next season it probably won't be the best shot we have to contend so why be forced to expose 1 of ADA, Trouba, or Lindgren when it's not totally necessary. If we are adding a defenseman someone like Oleksiak would be fine.
 
Pawnee Rangers said:
He's 20 and far from a finished product. Kids can improve past the age of 19 years old. Faceoffs can be learned and lots of young players are not good defensively their first few years.
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Yeah, I said that but to think he's going to do it in one short off season is unlikely.
 
If Jumbo Joe wants to play another year, I would offer a 1 year deal. Guy is still an elite passer and can feed Panarin and Zibanejad one timers all day long on the Power Play
 
duhmetreE said:
Yeah, I said that but to think he's going to do it in one short off season is unlikely.
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He doesn't have to be a complete player next season. He just needs to show progress and that he has the potential to grow into that kind of a player.
 
duhmetreE said:
I understand this is HF... but Chytil is no where near ready to take the 2C position. '

There's no logic or data to back up that scenario. He would need to develop dramatically in the offseason. Is it possible? sure. Is it likely? no.
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If he's not, he's not. Where are we going this upcoming season?
 
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