Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLV

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Yeah, I’d like to see you, edge, Dutch, Broadway, maybe kupo, etc in those meetings. Who do I contact?
I’m too am available, just as long as it’s not next week.

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NHL players have become pansies when one of their players takes a big, legal hit. NHL should start handing out 3 game suspensions to players who instigate a fight after a hit they deem legal. That will stop this pansy behavior.
 
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Retaliation for a clean hit should be a game misconduct
That's easy to say, but in the heat of the moment it can be incredibly difficult to tell what's clean and what's dirty. I mean we review hits and 30 people will give you 30 different interpretations. The hit by Lindgren on Donskoi, I was pretty positive in live action that it was a bad hit. The first replay I thought it was bad. It wasn't until subsequent replays that I determined that Donskoi put himself in the position that led to the contact with his head, and even then, I still wasn't sure the League would agree.

So what do you do? So many hits are borderline. Seems like during the season the DPS reviews one hit every week. Unless it's a situation where it's a plainly clean hit that is undeniably clean (and how often do those happen anymore), you can't give guys misconducts for reacting to things that in the heat of the moment feel dirty.
 
That's easy to say, but in the heat of the moment it can be incredibly difficult to tell what's clean and what's dirty. I mean we review hits and 30 people will give you 30 different interpretations. The hit by Lindgren on Donskoi, I was pretty positive in live action that it was a bad hit. The first replay I thought it was bad. It wasn't until subsequent replays that I determined that Donskoi put himself in the position that led to the contact with his head, and even then, I still wasn't sure the League would agree.

So what do you do? So many hits are borderline. Seems like during the season the DPS reviews one hit every week. Unless it's a situation where it's a plainly clean hit that is undeniably clean (and how often do those happen anymore), you can't give guys misconducts for reacting to things that in the heat of the moment feel dirty.

Maybe you're right. It's just so frustrating to see
 
That's easy to say, but in the heat of the moment it can be incredibly difficult to tell what's clean and what's dirty. I mean we review hits and 30 people will give you 30 different interpretations. The hit by Lindgren on Donskoi, I was pretty positive in live action that it was a bad hit. The first replay I thought it was bad. It wasn't until subsequent replays that I determined that Donskoi put himself in the position that led to the contact with his head, and even then, I still wasn't sure the League would agree.

So what do you do? So many hits are borderline. Seems like during the season the DPS reviews one hit every week. Unless it's a situation where it's a plainly clean hit that is undeniably clean (and how often do those happen anymore), you can't give guys misconducts for reacting to things that in the heat of the moment feel dirty.

All fair points, but they need to call the instigator more. Kadri should've been tossed for that display.
 
I actually am a proponent of getting rid of the instigator. I think doing away with it makes the idea of "deterrence" somewhat realistic, knowing that if you act like a fool you'll have to pay the price.

But honestly we've passed that point. So, yes, assuming the instigator exists, it definitely needs to be called more often. I'd say you could easily apply the instigator penalty to maybe as much as a quarter of fights in the league.
 
There are clean hits that you still want to protect your players from. Someone who is looking to turn one of our rookies inside out with a clean hit should know that they will pay a price. We shouldn't have to lose a player for a game for trying to set a tone, unless they attempt to injure/cheap shot/sucker punch someone. Challenging someone to a fight should cost five minutes. Not a game misconduct.
 
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Players don’t have access to camera angles and replays, a lot of the time they don’t even see the hit themselves and are reacting to their teammate being hurt. You want to send a message when teams target your star players, nothing wrong with it
 
I'm fairly confident that unless Hank pulls a surprise retirement that Georgiev will be traded this summer. I don't think they will run three goalies for another season, and I can't see a Lundqvist buyout.

I agree, said it before that unfortunately the only path they will likely take is Georgiev trade, not that I agree with the move.
 
I agree, said it before that unfortunately the only path they will likely take is Georgiev trade, not that I agree with the move.

Depends on the return. Looking at a team like San Jose for two 2nd rounders is a trade I would think suits us very well. Stocking up in the final draft before we move to the next phase in our quest to build a contender. Getting 6 picks in the top 100 is huge
 
Players don’t have access to camera angles and replays, a lot of the time they don’t even see the hit themselves and are reacting to their teammate being hurt. You want to send a message when teams target your star players, nothing wrong with it
Players need to learn the phrase “f*** you, it was a good hit.”
 
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Players don’t have access to camera angles and replays, a lot of the time they don’t even see the hit themselves and are reacting to their teammate being hurt. You want to send a message when teams target your star players, nothing wrong with it

But the flip side to that is that I lay a clean hit, you take exception to it, decide to send a message and break my jaw.
Sure you'll likely get suspended, but I'm missing a month + of hockey despite doing absolutely nothing wrong.

If the hit is legal it is legal. If it isn't then maybe it is time to properly overhaul the DOPS and get them to hand down proper suspensions for illegal hits
 
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