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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLI

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20-21 or whenever
Krieds Zibs Buch
Pan Strome Kakko
Krav Chytil Gauthier
Lemmy Lias/Howton Howton/DiG

Lindgren Fox
Beaulieu Trouba
Staal ADA
Smith

Czar/Georgie boy

Leaves more than $4 mil in space
 
Avery16 said:
Any mention of Faulk or Parayko
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That he believes playing Dunn in their top 4 is a better idea than playing Faulk on his offside in the top 4

And that Armstrong is going to do whatever it takes to keep Parayko long term, doesn’t see him being moved for Pietrangelo
 
I don't think anyone should plan on Kravstov being ready for a top-9 job. If it happens, it happens. But like last year there will probably be a vet in that place.... Hopefully they are better than Micheal Haley
 
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effen said:
I don't think anyone should plan on Kravstov being ready for a top-9 job. If it happens, it happens. But like last year there will probably be a vet in that place.... Hopefully they are better than Micheal Haley
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I agree with this. People were penciling in Kakko and Kravstov for this year to be middle 6 forwards and look how that turned out. Let Kravstov come to camp and and force the door open.
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
That he believes playing Dunn in their top 4 is a better idea than playing Faulk on his offside in the top 4

And that Armstrong is going to do whatever it takes to keep Parayko long term, doesn’t see him being moved for Pietrangelo
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Wow. Faulk as a $6.5 million third-pair defender. Edmundson was peaking and a pending FA, but what about Bokk? Had his stock dropped so much?
 
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Avery16 said:


Someone who has the athletic- brief the rest of us.
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This is everything about Dunn in the article sans offer sheet speculation.

When people talk about “breakout” players, Dunn was already a known commodity, but I felt like he was going to break out even more. He’s had a great season, especially from an analytics perspective, but his ice time has dropped 1:16 per game from last season (17:32 to 16:16). You can look at this two ways: He’s having success because he’s playing third-pair minutes against less talented forwards or he’s playing well, so play him more.

I understand that Faulk is a three-time All-Star who can play 20 minutes per game, but I would play Dunn in the top four before I would have one of the right shots playing on his offside. Dunn has had chances in the top four and made some mistakes, but he’s a better player now and deserves a longer look.

Finally, to answer your question about Dunn being expendable, my answer is no way. He’s a 23-year-old who’s as good a skater as you’ll find on the back end, can quarterback the power play, is pretty solid defensively and is cheap. He’ll be a restricted free agent without arbitration rights. Yes, the Blues have Scandella locked up for four years and Niko Mikkola and Perunovich on the way, and don’t forget about Jake Walman, but none of them are where Dunn is right now. To me, he’s not expendable.
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I wouldn’t be worried about losing Parayko or Thomas; Armstrong will find a way to keep them, but he’ll have trouble keeping other parts of the core intact if that’s anywhere close to the term and price tag for Pietrangelo.
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Parayko, for example, has two more seasons left on his contract, and he’ll be due a raise from his $5.5 million AAV. The Blues might get Dunn for less than $3 million next season because he doesn’t have arbitration rights, but he’s going to cost more when he does have some leverage. And Thomas will be coming off his entry-level deal after the ’20-21 season, so there’s another bump on the horizon.
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tl;dr

- Dunn is ready for top-4, not expendable but still possible to lose him over Pietrangelo.

- Dunn can be offer-sheeted.

- Blues want to keep Pietrangelo, but there might be a tipping point.

- Parayko isn’t going anywhere, needs new deal in 2 years.

- Blues have more big contracts to deal with in near future.

Man, I don’t know what they were thinking with Faulk.
 
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Anthony5967 said:
Shapiro suggesting another Strome trade. I just don't understand why lol. You drafted a kid seventh who may not even come back, a kid at 21, albeit a very good player, he still needs to develop, and the jury is out on whether or not he's even a C. So who else in the system can even be considered a 2C? Strome shouldn't break the bank. I realize the cap may remain flat, and that could be a killer. However, the guy has established wicked chemistry with your team's best player, and the two of them threw up the point totals they did with Fast on the other flank! Imagine when Kakko or Kravtsov starts hitting their stride in time. As long as Strome isn't asking for $6M per, I'm fine bringing him back for 3-4 years.
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Link?
 
I'm looking at the buyouts for both Hank and Staal and, while they are a bit painful, the 2nd years aren't all that bad. If the team believes they have better options at both positions, getting those kids playing time for a full year is more than likely more valuable than the 2nd year cap space the buyouts would kill by buying them both out.

For example, if Gorton and company believe that (2) of Rykov/Hajek/Reunanen will be ready for the NHL next year, it may make more sense to remove the road block of Staal from the roster in total
 
We should try and sign Shipachyov from Russia. I believe his contract is up after the year. He played on a line with Panarin and Dadonov in 14-15 at SKA and that was Panarin's big breakout season. We know they have chemistry together and he's produced everywhere he's played barring 3 games where he was used on L4.
 
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We should try and sign Shipachyov from Russia. I believe his contract is up after the year. He played on a line with Panarin and Dadonov in 14-15 at SKA and that was Panarin's big breakout season. We know they have chemistry together and he's produced everywhere he's played barring 3 games where he was used on L4.
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Is that the guy Vegas paid $9M to play in the AHL? What went wrong there?
 
According to capfriendly, Vegas owns Shipachyov‘s rights until he’s 35 (he’s 33 now)

Not sure why that would be the case
 
This is my idea for the 2020-21 roster after trading Strome and buying out Hank. The RFA contracts are probably all wrong but whatever. Maybe not quite as dynamic without Strome, but they'll be a lot better defensively. Combine that with 45-60 games from Shesterkin, and this team will see a huge decrease in goals against. There's still space to sign Ennis but I'm going under the assumption that Howden will be stapled to the lineup and PK for the remainder of his career.

Larsson doesn't produce but he had the 2nd-highest Goals Above Replacement on the Sabres and could be a shrewd signing, especially since we'll be losing Fast's two-way play.

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aufheben said:
Spezza and Ennis were two of the guys I suggested for that 3C role, but Johan Larsson is still the best option IMO.

I’d be all about signing Spezza, even for 4C. Shot and goal suppression is what we need in the bottom-6, and he can help on PP2 if necessary.
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What does this team do with Howds?
 
Anthony5967 said:
Exploring UFA center options for the NY Rangers' bottom six
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  • Incessant name calling and/or hostility towards each other. This is a time when we should be sticking together and supporting each other. Disagree all you want about the approach and/or handling of the situation. But remember people are dying, and we are taking the necessary precautions to save lives and buy time for scientists.
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