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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLI

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Machinehead said:
Raanta is significantly better than Georgiev. Like, this shouldn't even need to be said.

He has a .921 career sv% and it's more like .924 since he left Chicago. He has health issues but if he's on the ice, he might be a top 10 goalie right now.

Georgiev is extremely overrated on here. He's completely run of the mill.
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I think Raanta is a little overvalued by Rangers fans, but I'm speaking more to relative value at the time of the trade. Raanta hasn't beat out Darcy Kuemper in Arizona, has not started 100 games since leaving NYR three seasons ago. But he was 28 at the time of the trade, and was a year out from UFA. Georgiev is a lot more valuable at this point than Raanta was when we traded him.
 
Whatever you get for Georgiev in trade or in use, I'm sure it's worth the hassle of signing a goalie expose in the expansion draft.

Talbot, a goalie with 57 NHL games a year away from unrestricted free agency, brought back a second and a third. Yeah, I think he was a lot better than Georgiev, but Georgiev wouldn't be traded for nothing.
 
The funny thing about the Rangers ability to draft and find goalies is they absolutely whiff when taking a goalie early

And then they consistently find success in the later rounds and UDFA’s
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
Potentially exposing Georgiev is an interesting idea

It would only make sense if there was a situation in which the team acquired another defenseman/forward but didn’t have a spot to protect them

Basically telling Seattle “hey we’ll give you a young goalie who has starter upside in exchange for not taking player X”
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I would be much more on board with trading Georgiev to Seattle in an agreement to not select Hajek Gauthier Lemieux or Howden, plus potentially trading us an exposed F we like.
 
Loki Dog 74 said:
It’s not bad but the idea that every hole in the lineup gets filled internally is probably naive. I don’t know that whoever we draft this year will be NHL ready within two years; recent history says otherwise - none of Andersson, Chytil or Kravstov was ready to step in during their D+1/2 season. I don’t think we’ll go with a defense that green either, but if they’re both as talented as they may be it’s possible they force our hand. I think we’ll see a veteran stop gap brought in, like an Ian Cole at minimum.

Also don’t know if everyone whose here now is here for the long term. Buch might not be. We may decide to package him, perhaps with someone like Lundkvist where we have so much strength at RD to bring in a solid LD. Who knows?

I’d be surprised if the only changes to the roster were internal going into 21-22.
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Gotcha. Can’t see Lundkvist being moved. Looks like a gem at the bottom of the round. Tons of teams are going to wish they grabbed him. Buchnevich seems like a guy that’s content in NY, has buddies here, and is a good complementary player, so I do expect him to get a fair deal. Nothing that breaks the bank, though.
 
exposing georgiev when we have no other goalies to protect in hopes of avoiding losing a depth forward or a depth dman makes zero sense...if you want to move him trade him.
 
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zephyr said:
Didn't they sign a veteran goalie that was sent to Hartford? I assumed that was for expansion exposure.
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they traded for one (berube) but he is a UFA...likely will be signed to have a veteran in hartford with huska & wall and to meet the exposure requirements but hasn't been signed yet.
 
all things being equal, Seattle will take Howden because playing center (badly) matters. I don't think the expansion draft matters much - someone will get taken who will cause mild consternation, or, in the BEST case scenario, a guy or two seriously breaks out and the Rangers have to trade a mid-1st to take a lesser player. Which is fine because a guy or two just broke out, yanno?

Trade Geo for draft capital now though.
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
Potentially exposing Georgiev is an interesting idea

It would only make sense if there was a situation in which the team acquired another defenseman/forward but didn’t have a spot to protect them

Basically telling Seattle “hey we’ll give you a young goalie who has starter upside in exchange for not taking player X”
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I'd rather them take Howden.
 
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effen said:
all things being equal, Seattle will take Howden because playing center (badly) matters. I don't think the expansion draft matters much - someone will get taken who will cause mild consternation, or, in the BEST case scenario, a guy or two seriously breaks out and the Rangers have to trade a mid-1st to take a lesser player. Which is fine because a guy or two just broke out, yanno?

Trade Geo for draft capital now though.
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Why not claim the asset with the highest projected return value? LVK was very busy both before and after the expansion draft. their selections may not be with a playing roster as the immediate target.
 
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Avery16 said:
Why not trade for the asset with the highest projected return value? LVK was very busy both before and after the expansion draft. their selections may not be with a playing roster as the immediate target.
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I meant they could trade the 1st to get Seattle to take a garbo player over someone who broke out if you had to. They have a pretty fair amount of 'nice' depth guys and if no one broke out I'm pretty sure they'd take Howden. It's a nice problem to have.
 
Seattle is building some huge analytics department prior to the expansion draft. Do you really think they are going to select one of the worst analytical players in the league? I don't see it at all.
 
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SA16 said:
Seattle is building some huge analytics department prior to the expansion draft. Do you really think they are going to select one of the worst analytical players in the league? I don't see it at all.
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I'd say that depends on whether they think that, separated from the Rangers system, he'll improve. B/c analytically we have not been a great or even good team for the last what, 5 years?
 
NYR Viper said:
Do you know if Borgstrom would be exempt if he signed for a season in the KHL? I keep coming back to an Andersson for Borgstrom deal but it really only makes sense for the Rangers IF he is exempt.

Based on his age I would say he is NOT exempt but I don't know how leaving for the KHL effects things
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Borgstrom's ELC kicked in prior to July 1st 2019. So he isn't exempt
 
Machinehead said:
He's moving at full speed and doesn't hit the dog.

That's some f***ing pair of mitts.
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There’s no doubt Panarin’s mitts are near the top of the entire world, but that’s like 1/3 speed for this monster.
 
SA16 said:
Seattle is building some huge analytics department prior to the expansion draft. Do you really think they are going to select one of the worst analytical players in the league? I don't see it at all.
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If their professional development staff doesn't think they can coach him up, probably not. But I'd wager they would think they can.
 
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