Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[Ail]

That Shesty contract lmaoooooo

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

They need a shakeup really badly. And I would start with firing Drury because I wouldn't trust him to watch my dog. He bungled this team terribly.


But it'll be probably end up with Drury firing Laviolette and hiring Quenneville.

 

[Cusedog]

How many times can they interview these players post game and have them say the effort was just not there. They really need to stop interviewing the corpse DJ Mika.

 

[lakeshirts37]

They need a shakeup really badly. And I would start with firing Drury because I wouldn't trust him to watch my dog. He bungled this team terribly.


But it'll be probably end up with Drury firing Laviolette and hiring Quenneville.

Idk Drury has been just OK. Mika falling off a cliff, Lindgren deteriorating way faster than anticipated, and a few young guys not taking that next step is the issue

 

[bernmeister]

It's over, the window has closed.

Time to tear it down. Get a hardass coach in the Torts style.

That might help YOU feel good, but it does nothing for the team
The guy I wanted, Knoblauch, has proven to be the correct choice.

The jockey is irrelevant
Half the horses on this team of jackasses has to go

Brodz, vesey rempe in...Mika kreider Smith out...dont be a coward, do it

NO NO NO on vesey, there is zero reason to keep, he's overrated, cooked and a waste of a roster spot.
no

The rest of the team is dragging down CK
I want to see Zib moved immediately and then assess.

 

[toNYRico]

This team is absolutely spineless. It's embarrassing.

 

[bernmeister]

That Shesty contract lmaoooooo

I wanted to sell high on him last yr.
He's still a premium netminder, he was hug out to dry this game [also lately].

 

[Cusedog]

Lavi is a pin cushion with no real answers. Time to turn the lights out in the NYR morgue.

 

[bernmeister]

ANA smartly traded Fowler
helps us if they decide to add short term $$$ to hit cap floor

expiring Lindgren, 4.5 for bupkis

 

[DanielBrassard]

Not that shesterkin is bad but Drury rushing to extend him without letting the season play out to see where this team was headed was a mind boggling decision. 20M invested in Shesterkin and Zibanejad for the next 5 years with full no-move clauses is a terrible way to start a retool or even rebuild.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Idk Drury has been just OK. Mika falling off a cliff, Lindgren deteriorating way faster than anticipated, and a few young guys not taking that next step is the issue

Drury's performance has been disappointing. While the players' underperformance is a major issue, Drury has failed to improve the team and has repeatedly squandered valuable assets on rentals.

 

[bernmeister]

Oh, and one more thing:
the word of the day is Byfield

I see foolish statements as to KAM for Byfield, 1:1, way too little not happening

I wanted us to overpay to get him
I said currency, think

no no no, crazy bern doesn't know what he's talking about...

ONCE AGAIN, BERN IS RIGHT, LEARN WITH THE BERN

 

[B17 Apricots]

Not that shesterkin is bad but Drury rushing to extend him without letting the season play out to see where this team was headed was a mind boggling decision. 20M invested in Shesterkin and Zibanejad for the next 5 years with full no-move clauses is a terrible way to start a retool or even rebuild.

Not that I think it'll happen.. but technically I believe he's still under a ten team no trade clause for the season. The NMC doesn't kick in until after this season ends. If Drury really gets ballsy he could still deal him

 

[Vitto79]

Oh, and one more thing:
the word of the day is Byfield

I see foolish statements as to KAM for Byfield, 1:1, way too little not happening

I wanted us to overpay to get him
I said currency, think

no no no, crazy bern doesn't know what he's talking about...

ONCE AGAIN, BERN IS RIGHT, LEARN WITH THE BERN

When Kakko is traded soon you’re gonna be wrong lol

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Am I crazy for wanting to fire Drury and hire Ken Holland as the interim GM JUST for the rest of the season (he's old so I doubt he wants to do it for much longer)?

 

[bernmeister]

Not that shesterkin is bad but Drury rushing to extend him without letting the season play out to see where this team was headed was a mind boggling decision. 20M invested in Shesterkin and Zibanejad for the next 5 years with full no-move clauses is a terrible way to start a retool or even rebuild.

best move was my suggestion, sell high last yr
now it was either take less for him now, or extend
extend requires his consent on his terms

 

[DanielBrassard]

Not that I think it'll happen.. but technically I believe he's still under a ten team no trade clause for the season. The NMC doesn't kick in until after this season ends. If Drury really gets ballsy he could still deal him

I doubt he would do it but he should.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

its evident we have zero shot at making any kind of run if we can even somehow sneak into the playoffs this year. I think we should be sellers this deadline. We can probably get decent value for expiring UFA contracts such as lindgren and smith. Some value there for RFA’s that we may not be willing to lock up long term like Kakko.

Lindgren at 50% retained likely gets a 2nd
Smith at 50% retained likely gets a 2nd
Kakko probably fetches a 2nd + mid tier prospect

I think these are moves worth pursuing. And then guys like KAM, Kreider try to move in hockey trades this offseason.

We have too many physical and mentally weak players in this core. Needs to be shaken up big time. Been saying it for years

 

[bernmeister]

When Kakko is traded soon you’re gonna be wrong lol

NO, THAT will just be another effen mistake Rs make when not listening to me

IT WOULD KILL YOU TO ADMIT I WAS RIGHT

 

[Daves a mess]

Before I put the game on, how many players did Zibaniscared crush into the boards?

 

[Crease]

Looks like both the coach and the players are just waiting for the GM to decide what now. Zero energy top to bottom.

 

[bernmeister]

its evident we have zero shot at making any kind of run if we can even somehow sneak into the playoffs this year. I think we should be sellers this deadline. We can probably get decent value for expiring UFA contracts such as lindgren and smith. Some value there for RFA’s that we may not be willing to lock up long term like Kakko.

Lindgren at 50% retained likely gets a 2nd
Smith at 50% retained likely gets a 2nd
Kakko probably fetches a 2nd + mid tier prospect

I think these are moves worth pursuing. And then guys like KAM, Kreider try to move in hockey trades this offseason.

We have too many physical and mentally weak players in this core. Needs to be shaken up big time. Been saying it for years

Lindgren at 50% retained likely gets a 2nd
= wildly optimistic, not happenin at this pt

Smith at 50% retained likely gets a 2nd
= plausible enuf to be ballpark reasonable

Kakko probably fetches a 2nd + mid tier prospect
= NO, do not sell short just for the sake of selling

our prob is THE VETS:
Zib, Lindy, for starters

lose them first and see what shakes

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

its evident we have zero shot at making any kind of run if we can even somehow sneak into the playoffs this year. I think we should be sellers this deadline. We can probably get decent value for expiring UFA contracts such as lindgren and smith. Some value there for RFA’s that we may not be willing to lock up long term like Kakko.

Lindgren at 50% retained likely gets a 2nd
Smith at 50% retained likely gets a 2nd
Kakko probably fetches a 2nd + mid tier prospect

I think these are moves worth pursuing. And then guys like KAM, Kreider try to move in hockey trades this offseason.

We have too many physical and mentally weak players in this core. Needs to be shaken up big time. Been saying it for years

I think the Rangers are still going to go for it because A) we're still in prime playoff position; B) Chris Drury needs to produce PRONTO as more and more fans are realizing what a fraud he is; and C) we have to make the most out of Sam Rosen's final season (or at least that's how Dolan will see it).

 

[toNYRico]

Someone call Sather.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

At this point, there are no changes that would be too soon or too profound.