Fox was not MIA in the playoffs until last year when he was clearly injured. Before that he was a PPG player in the playoffs. Revisionist history just because you want to get upset over something.
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Fox was not MIA in the playoffs until last year when he was clearly injured. Before that he was a PPG player in the playoffs. Revisionist history just because you want to get upset over something.
Boris Zubov
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He been hyped up as an elite player on HF overall & by some posters on HFNYR. That's the disconnect. Some people would have you believe he would come in & be a savior.
The jovo juice!
Previously poisoned individuals include Kravtsov, Barbashev and Rempe.
Currently immune: Berard and regular season Panarin.
Boris Zubov
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Boris Zubov
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Ed's not the only advocating to bring him in here.
But advocating to bring him here is not the same as thinking he'll be the savior.
Fox was the team’s best skater in the 22 playoffs. I actually distinctly remember him being really good during that run.
Last year he was playing on one knee and it clearly showed. Why people choose to hone in on the guy who’s arguably the team’s most important player is beyond me.
50% of the D not being able to find the offensive zone is the way more pressing issue along with the underachieving top forwards.
Last year he was playing on one knee and it clearly showed. Why people choose to hone in on the guy who’s arguably the team’s most important player is beyond me.
50% of the D not being able to find the offensive zone is the way more pressing issue along with the underachieving top forwards.
It's masochism. People want to be miserable and if you complain about some middle of the road player, that's not max misery. If you complain about the best player then you're in full misery mode. And some people get off on that. I know some people will say that about me and Igor but I really don't think he's anywhere near our best player though, he does play solid in the playoffs and more or less consistent.
Boris Zubov
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You're taking what I wrote to Zegras' Webster a bit too literally although there would be massive expectations on the kid if we were dumb enough to trade for him.
Boris Zubov
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There's a difference between complaining to complain & legit criticism, which in Fox's case is taboo on this board. He's a great player but also has his share of warts. However there's a huge faction here who refuses to see that or worse brings out the pitchforks if you dare to engage in a good faith discussion about where his game currently is.
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Argue over Fox’s playoff performance all you’d like (mostly great outside of the devils series where he was horrible) but the major point is the Rangers are soft on the back end and Fox can’t carry the load by himself.
The Rangers shouldn’t be making hollow “shakeup trade” threats. They absolutely need a lefty defenseman who can play on the top pair, which would subsequently push Lindgren out of the lineup whether he is on the team or not. Really anyone should be on the table for that type of player. The assets is hold are Fox, Laf, Cuylle and Gabe. Everything else is in play for that type of player.
The Rangers shouldn’t be making hollow “shakeup trade” threats. They absolutely need a lefty defenseman who can play on the top pair, which would subsequently push Lindgren out of the lineup whether he is on the team or not. Really anyone should be on the table for that type of player. The assets is hold are Fox, Laf, Cuylle and Gabe. Everything else is in play for that type of player.
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Fox wasn’t even bad in the Devils series.
He had one semi bad moment in g7 which was mostly on Kreider and for that alone people wants to attach the idea that he had a bad series (ive even heard some say he had a bad season lmao.)
He had one semi bad moment in g7 which was mostly on Kreider and for that alone people wants to attach the idea that he had a bad series (ive even heard some say he had a bad season lmao.)
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Yeah he's definitely not a savior level player, has yet to show he's a star on the same level of your top stars.
Dostal is the one I'd be interested in if Igor gets traded due to his excessive salary demand (obviously low probability), Zegras not so much. Not sure if the Rangers and Ducks make good trading partners. What do the Ducks need?
WhatTheDuck
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I can't picture a realistic scenario where the Ducks move Dostal at any point in the foreseeable future. He's making himself the franchise goalie moving forward. Our biggest need is for star talent to emerge elsewhere so that our success isn't so hugely reliant on goaltending as it has been. I assume one of these goalie starved teams will eventually fork over enough to make it worth moving Gibson as his contract comes up to the final two years.
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I'd take Gibson as a stop gap instead of overpaying Igor.
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Yes. Don’t get me wrong, if we can buy low on Zegras we should do it. To my mind, though, Kakko is the better more complete player, the player I want for THIS team, even if Zegras can pick it back up. And this is not even taking into consideration that Kakko may turn out to be a center…
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I think it’s being under discussed that there’s some locker room turmoil going on. Not exactly sure what it is but Brooks has brought up multiple times how the last week of training camp something with the team felt “off”. Multiple outlets have said everyone in locker room is walking on eggshells. It’s the least shocking thing ever when you have the Trouba trade drama, Igor contract drama, and whatever is going on with Meeka.
Not to mention the young players who are carrying us being continually passed over. I don’t completely buy that Kakko wants out but where there’s smoke there’s fire. And if the vets are really pushing back against Drury as being too harsh, they are all in for a rude awakening if he’s fired and replaced by someone who hasn’t known them all for a decade.
Not to mention the young players who are carrying us being continually passed over. I don’t completely buy that Kakko wants out but where there’s smoke there’s fire. And if the vets are really pushing back against Drury as being too harsh, they are all in for a rude awakening if he’s fired and replaced by someone who hasn’t known them all for a decade.
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A small part of the image of Adam Fox is hidden in your message although you probably didnt intend to.
For the level of importance he is in this line-up, having an "ok" or "not bad" series isn't helpful for this team to succeed.
Yes, the team needs to be better as a whole and supportive. And yes, Fox isnt a "Savior". You can't expect him to have a Messier "We will win." moment. Its just not his style.
But, if the expectation certain players need to have lets say, conservatively, one defining game per series. That performance that seperates the SCW from the Playoff losers. Well, we expect one game per series where Shesterkin is that guy, we expect it from Panarin as well. Adam Fox, the persona he fills, should be expected to meet that criteria too.
Lafreniere had one of those games and so did Kreider last playoffs.
Krieder to me is in the "great if it happens, not expected." tier.
Lafreniere was a VERY pleasant surprise. And the fans got giddy for it.
Shesterkin has earned the expectation.
Panarin is working on it. Hense the critisism.
Fox should be in that A tier of expectation.
That said, some of that is on him to get unselfish and maybe make a Alpha move once in ahwile. Some of that is on the other 4 guys on the ice to scheme up and give him the support he can trust to abandon his responsible sector of the scheme to run and open hole with an Alpha move.
My point is. He's in that tier of talent and pay. So he's worthy of constructive critisizm.
And as said previously, the pitch fork crowd, if they are truely reasonable people, should understand that.
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Drury inquired about JT Miller again per the Athletic. They want a guy who plays with fire and will hold people accountable I guess. Kinda is his MO in Vancouver for better or worse. Who knows what going on with him on this leave of absence by maybe a problem for problem trade with the Canucks.
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Mika for Miller if Mika would waive his NMC would be something else.
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