Roster Building Thread - Part XI (Off-season edition)

[eco's bones]

Skinner will be 33 next year. He's played 14 seasons and over 1000 NHL regular season games but 0 NHL playoff games. I think he holds the record of most regular season games without playing a playoff game. Teams he's on don't seem to reach even a playoffs marker of success. Is it just bad luck? I'm not sure I'd want to find out with a 33 year old and I don't see the Rangers trading their captain this summer let alone for a player with Skinner's history.

 

[Fitzy]

Unlike Eco I could give a rat's ass about trading our captain wearer this offseason but I imagine we can do better than straight swaps for Skinner or Laine.

Part of the idea is to move cap. This team needs depth as much as it needs anything else. a 8 million guy for a 4-5 million 2nd line wing would be my ideal transaction, if they could pull it off.

Trouba gew up outside of Detroit. Is there a move there? The Wings don't have much salary, and the most obvious exchange (Copp) doesn;'t excite anyone for good reason.

 

[McRanger92]

Unlike Eco I could give a rat's ass about trading our captain wearer this offseason but I imagine we can do better than straight swaps for Skinner or Laine.

Part of the idea is to move cap. This team needs depth as much as it needs anything else. a 8 million guy for a 4-5 million 2nd line wing would be my ideal transaction, if they could pull it off.

Trouba gew up outside of Detroit. Is there a move there? The Wings don't have much salary, and the most obvious exchance (Copp) doesn;'t excite anyone for good reason.

Athletic suggested something around Holl and Trouba. Id prefer Chiarot but ~3-4mil in cap space is significant and at least youd be playing those guys on the 3rd pair in a role they are suited for.

 

[SA16]

Skinner will be 33 next year. He's played 14 seasons and over 1000 NHL regular season games but 0 NHL playoff games. I think he holds the record of most regular season games without playing a playoff game. Teams he's on don't seem to reach even a playoffs marker of success. Is it just bad luck? I'm not sure I'd want to find out with a 33 year old and I don't see the Rangers trading their captain this summer let alone for a player with Skinner's history.

Yes, it's bad luck.

 

[Vitto79]

Athletic suggested something around Holl and Trouba. Id prefer Chiarot but ~3-4mil in cap space is significant and at least youd be playing those guys on the 3rd pair in a role they are suited for.

Holl and Maata make sense to me from Detroit

May aswell keep Trouba without the benefit of some cap space Atleast next year

Trouba is easier to move in the final season

You just use Holl as the spare and play Jones

 

[noncents]

maata had a great year

 

[bernmeister]

Athletic suggested something around Holl and Trouba. Id prefer Chiarot but ~3-4mil in cap space is significant and at least youd be playing those guys on the 3rd pair in a role they are suited for.

why?
b'c he's a name?

Holl and Maata make sense to me from Detroit

May aswell keep Trouba without the benefit of some cap space Atleast next year

Trouba is easier to move in the final season

You just use Holl as the spare and play Jones

no
why make a win lose move now by keeping when w/modest retain, we can recover futures?

this is not 4th level chess, peeps

 

[surlysailor]

Does anyone think Perron might sign a 1 year deal? I could see him being a fit to move around the lineup between KZ & whatever the 3rd line might be. If not him I could see JVR being an ok stop gap who can be a net front guy on pp 2.

 

[Machinehead]

Chiarot sucks

 

[Vitto79]

why?
b'c he's a name?


no
why make a win lose move now by keeping when w/modest retain, we can recover futures?

this is not 4th level chess, peeps

They have no picks to dump guys contracts
do you want an Edstrom attached to make it worth the dump for another team ?
Either keep Trouba or move for some cap space but they would to take a dump like Holl back for sure

 

[SA16]

Does anyone think Perron might sign a 1 year deal? I could see him being a fit to move around the lineup between KZ & whatever the 3rd line might be. If not him I could see JVR being an ok stop gap who can be a net front guy on pp 2.

He's not a very good fit because his best ability is being a left circle triggerman on the PP which is not an available role.

 

[McRanger92]

Chiarot sucks

Ive yet to find a player mentioned in this thread that someone doesnt think sucks, including all 20 currently on the team lol

 

[Machinehead]

Ive yet to find a player mentioned in this thread that someone doesnt think sucks, including all 20 currently on the team lol

Ok fair, but Chiarot really sucks.

He has no idea what offense is at the NHL level. If you're going to target a player like that, it's fewer assets to just keep Lindgren.

 

[Vitto79]

He's not a very good fit because his best ability is being a left circle triggerman on the PP which is not an available role.

You make sense but he’s also likely only a 1 yr commitment . They may need to search that kinda of guy out

 

[McRanger92]

Ok fair, but Chiarot really sucks.

He has no idea what offense is at the NHL level. If you're going to target a player like that, it's fewer assets to just keep Lindgren.

Id want Chiarot more because Lindgren gets knocked off the ice by a swift breeze at this point. Im just resigned to the fact that we're getting a bad player back if we move Trouba.

 

[Guyute]

If we're only offered junk like Skinner or Chiarot for Trouba, just keep Trouba and trade Lindgren

 

[Fitzy]

If we're only offered junk like Skinner or Chiarot for Trouba, just keep Trouba and trade Lindgren

That’s the alternative, yes.

Though I think we’d need both Lindgren and Goodrow out to make a significant splash at right wing or any other position. And that’s if we assume Schneider gets a bridge

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Need to find the next Stralman for this D group.

Possession monster who's sneaky effective, flys under the radar and is a cheap 3rd pairing guy who can play 20+ min if needed.

Gus was a good signing that was similar but he was exposed in the playoffs. I'd like to give Jones an extended look in his spot although the result when it really matters may be the same.

 

[bhamill]

trading a ppg 1st line winger who is best friends with your other top line studs for a mediocre draft pick and a 4th line plug is pretty bold.

Just for clarity: Buchnevich was never a PPG player here. His last year he was 0.88PPG. The two years prior he was 0.67 and 0.59PPG...

 

[Machinehead]

It's a shame that everything we suggest has to come with counting pennies. We can't just talk about players we think might be effective. I hate this league.

 

[noncents]

Just for clarity: Buchnevich was never a PPG player here. His last year he was 0.88PPG. The two years prior he was 0.67 and 0.59PPG...

i don't think this fact really diminishes my argument.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Id want Chiarot more because Lindgren gets knocked off the ice by a swift breeze at this point. Im just resigned to the fact that we're getting a bad player back if we move Trouba.

I feel like Lindgren is the worst at protecting himself of maybe any player I've ever seen. That guy gets horribly boarded like 2x per game. At some point its like...its not them dude, its you.

 

[McRanger92]

I feel like Lindgren is the worst at protecting himself of maybe any player I've ever seen. That guy gets horribly boarded like 2x per game. At some point its like...its not them dude, its you.

He's constantly leaving the ice injured because he turns his back on forecheckers when he has the puck.

 

[bhamill]

i don't think this fact really diminishes my argument.

The fact that Buchnevich was never as good here as you made him out to be? Sure it does. It diminishes it but does not negate it. The deal was bad but there's no need to exaggerate to make it worse.

 

[McRanger92]

The fact that Buchnevich was never as good here as you made him out to be? Sure it does. It diminishes it but does not negate it. The deal was bad but there's no need to exaggerate to make it worse.

Some people will still be talking about Buchnevich on their deathbed