Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXVI - On the Brink of Wasteland

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Uh, he clearly did do something so horrible... since, ya know, his team is willing (trying?) to lose him for nothing.

The specifics details may be in question, but the whole “I’m going to wait until I get the official explanation to judge” take is something else in this case. The team has already informed us in the starkest possible terms that he crossed a line, and to imply otherwise (much less criticize others for pointing it out) speaks to a desire to reeeeeeeally want to defend Tony...

As someone who has been a Tony supporter on PAST issues, I agree. I would like to know the details simply because there’s a difference between he’s a hot head with a temper who runs his mouth, rubs teammates abrasively and crosses lines is different than he’s flat out being a racist bully, but he clearly crossed a line and there isn’t much in this instance that can defend that. I just want the truth and details so we can say he did X instead of speculatively saying he did this and this and this and this and he’s a that and such.
 
No, inclusivity is including ALL viewpoints. Not just one. literally the cancel culture is the exact opposite of inclusivity. I don't get how people dont see that.
"In order to maintain a tolerant society, society must be intolerant of intolerance."

If a viewpoint is inherently intolerant of others, it should not be tolerated. That's the logic. You can't (and shouldn't) be 100% inclusive of everyone and everything.
 
No, inclusivity is including ALL viewpoints. Not just one. literally the cancel culture is the exact opposite of inclusivity. I don't get how people dont see that.

uhhh no nazis don’t get to hang with the rest of society at the party.

Cancel culture is about blowing out the racist sexist homophobic pieces of shit ruining progress for the rest of us.
 
I think its pretty clear that this team's issues run much deeper than the DeAngelo stuff.


You need to update the coach in your avatar.

Oh I agree. They need at least 2 centers and a new coach. But a fractured locker room never helps.

I update my avatar like every 5-8 years. It was a Leetch 2 for Leetch's jersey retirement before that one, so....
Also, I still hold AV responsible for blowing Henrik's final shot at an ECF and beyond.
 
Uh, he clearly did do something so horrible... since, ya know, his team is willing (trying?) to lose him for nothing.

The specifics details may be in question, but the whole “I’m going to wait until I get the official explanation to judge” take is something else in this case. The team has already informed us in the starkest possible terms that he crossed a line, and to imply otherwise (much less criticize others for pointing it out) speaks to a desire to reeeeeeeally want to defend Tony...
BR, we usually agree on a lot of things.

And while there is certainly merit to some of what you are saying here because the team did indeed waive him, my issue is the lengths some people out there are going to ruin this man. I have said it countless times already, if it comes out that Tony did something horrible then he deserves to face the music. I will be the first one to say gtfo. But until that comes out in some fashion, maybe its not the most detailed version, but it is summed up that he was causing issues with KAM or any and all of his teammates in such derogatory ways that are unforgivable, he gets the benefit of the doubt from me.
 
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"In order to maintain a tolerant society, society must be intolerant of intolerance."

If a viewpoint is inherently intolerant of others, it should not be tolerated. That's the logic. You can't (and shouldn't) be 100% inclusive of everyone and everything.

I think you mean , "in order to maintain an obediant society." not a tolerant one.

Tolerance doesn't mean you need to agree, but be able to openly discuss. You can't just shut things down as black and white. Him being a trump supporter does not make him a racist. Someone voting for biden doesn make them a communist. There is a lot of grey area in the world and the loss of all tolerance means there can be no debate and learning.

All you have now is one side shutting down all debate and saying you are wrong,,, na na na poo poo. And the good little sheeple just go on in their own little bubbles, talking to only those with their own viewpoints and becoming more intolerant and bitter every single day.
 
I think you mean , "in order to maintain an obediant society." not a tolerant one.

Tolerance doesn't mean you need to agree, but be able to openly discuss. You can't just shut things down as black and white. Him being a trump supporter does not make him a racist. Someone voting for biden doesn make them a communist. There is a lot of grey area in the world and the loss of all tolerance means there can be no debate and learning.

All you have now is one side shutting down all debate and saying you are wrong,,, na na na poo poo. And the good little sheeple just go on in their own little bubbles, talking to only those with their own viewpoints and becoming more intolerant and bitter every single day.
Racism and homophobia is not something that requires discourse. It's a right/wrong issue.
 
uhhh no nazis don’t get to hang with the rest of society at the party.

Cancel culture is about blowing out the racist sexist homophobic pieces of shit ruining progress for the rest of us.

But stalinists are ok... and so are the maoists...

When the left starts berating china for their human rights violations and other dictators than you can start the bs name calling. But they aren't. And they wont.
 
I think you mean , "in order to maintain an obediant society." not a tolerant one.
Nope, not what I mean. I was quoting a very important person there.

Tolerance doesn't mean you need to agree, but be able to openly discuss. You can't just shut things down as black and white. Him being a trump supporter does not make him a racist. Someone voting for biden doesn make them a communist. There is a lot of grey area in the world and the loss of all tolerance means there can be no debate and learning.

All you have now is one side shutting down all debate and saying you are wrong,,, na na na poo poo. And the good little sheeple just go on in their own little bubbles, talking to only those with their own viewpoints and becoming more intolerant and bitter every single day.
All I did was respond to your post that said every viewpoint gets a seat at the table. That isn't and shouldn't be the case. I didn't say it applied to DeAngelo or anyone here. Just a general point about inclusiveness and what it means.
 
The fact that they elected to waive Tony instead of execute him in Time's Square is all I need to know about this organization. Sickening.
Should have peeled off his skin with pliers. That'll teach him about being an intolerant bigot who hates goalies who give the puck away and then let in a softy between the wickets.
 
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"In order to maintain a tolerant society, society must be intolerant of intolerance."

If a viewpoint is inherently intolerant of others, it should not be tolerated. That's the logic. You can't (and shouldn't) be 100% inclusive of everyone and everything.
hope they have no problem with Devils fans coming to HFNYR and saying how bad we are and how good they are cause we should consider all sides
 
Racism and homophobia is not something that requires discourse. It's a right/wrong issue.

you are right. but when people start saying everything is racist, and literally just start making things up and distorting every fact to make it racist. That is also plainly wrong. People are fighting the BS that is going on in the country. And no there is alot there needs to be discussed in the country but people wont acknowledge the other side or even agree that it is complicated. They just see it as right/wrong black/white and no gray.

Some are true racists... its unfortunate and you are never going to change them.
 
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