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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXVI - On the Brink of Wasteland
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Does this account has an official ties to the Rangers organization? Then why would you site it or make conclusions based on it?
TheBloodyNine
Pure Bred Soviet Savage
I liked Tony and kind of pushed back on the mingling of personal beliefs and hockey ability, but honestly, my Kreider love would have multiplied by 5 if it was confirmed he did pop him.
Regardless... doesn’t seem Tony has a future in NY anymore. Hopefully we can parley him into some kind of asset even if it’s at a subpar return now. Shit happens, move on. Bottom pairing has been a disaster regardless of Tony being in or out.
Shesterkybomb
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NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
Tony got chances because he was good (or at least obviously very talented) on a rebuilding team without a lot of options. From a hockey perspective, it worked out. This year when he had a bad attitude or whatever, he was scratched for inferior players. They probably shouldn't have promoted the guy's podcast because he's a kook, even if I don't think he said anything bad on it. No one would ever mistake the Rangers organization for being particularly socially conscious, or a loud voice in the community, but the scorekeeping of "you were the 29th team to say such and such" is kind of creepy. But there aren't really any allegations there per se.
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Theres some truth to this, but Dave Shapiro never really struck me as a guy who would do shit for clicks.
Maybe I'm wrong.
From what I've read through in this thread, most of the posters leaning towards "defending" Tony aren't specifically defending him or his behavior, or denying that he's the root of the situation we're in. It's more about wanting to get legitimate sources to report what occurred before accusing him of anything specific.
There may be a few that are saying the former, so maybe that's who you're referring to. But if it's the latter, I don't think that falls under sticking up for Tony.
Bluto
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Amazing Kreiderman
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Shapiro and Herman have been writing negative stuff about DeAngelo for a long time now. I'm not saying they are 100% lying about what happens, but I wouldn't really consider them trustworthy on this subject and it wouldn't surprise me if they just exaggerate it a bit to juice it up.
Like you said: The "Kreider punched DeAngelo" bit wasn't confirmed. And it probably never will be. Does that mean it didn't happen? We will never know.
And that's the thing. You can just add on to the story and nobody will ever confirm or deny it happened. It will forever be up in the air on whether or not it actually happened. I don't consider blogs legitimate sources.
Richard Banger
Mamba Mentality
Honestly if ADA just stfu and be a pro like he’s getting paid to do this wouldn’t of happened.
a lot of players try to push their brand and that’s totally understandable since sports careers don’t last long but there always has been and always needs to be some discernment when trying to push your brand. Unfortunately ADA lacks this severely.
a lot of players try to push their brand and that’s totally understandable since sports careers don’t last long but there always has been and always needs to be some discernment when trying to push your brand. Unfortunately ADA lacks this severely.
Rempe73
RIP King of Pop
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Can’t believe this shit found it’s way here. Nowhere to hide.
I was sort of hoping it was Panarin because I have this image of him off ice as a vodka swilling wild card skinny wild man and the idea of DeAngelo blowing up on AG and Panarin just clocking him fit my personal narrative and made me giggle.
Rempe73
RIP King of Pop
Nailed it.
There is a difference between defending DeAngelo's actions and doubting the legitimacy of unsubstantiated claims. He's obviously done enough to book his ticket out of town, theres no need to drag him through the mud with a bunch of BS rumors.
I am interested to see what the fall out is for Geo here. Maybe he was the target, but it sure sounds like he didn't deescalate the situation.
Heated? Lol the guy is a complete hack.
I can say the same for you though. I have seen your sheer hatred for DeAngelo pierce through any post that could possibly include reason and logic behind the unproven conspiracies being thrown around.
If it is proven DeAngelo has been bullying his teammates, and I mean really bullying them, not just pulling some prank, then yea he can go kick rocks.
If he has been using racial slurs behind the scenes then yea he can go kick rocks. But then again the whole coaching staff should go for allowing it.
I need evidence before I just go and start accusing and labeling someone something that can destroy not just someones career but their life. Its one thing if he was emotional and took a stupid unsportsmanlike penalty slamming a door, or that he got into an altercation with a teammate over a play that he had a legitimate reason to be upset about but should have handled his emotions better...its another to make an indictment of someone based on rumors and not facts.
I mean regardless something obviously out of the ordinary happened or has been building up and the Rangers appear to be done with him. Whatever the details are, DeAngelo crossed some lines and there's no disputing that or we wouldn't even be having this conversation to begin with
nsvoyageurs
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It's in his history, and as someone said, that doesn't give him the benefit of the doubt if things happen down the road.
He can have whatever beliefs he wants, but as a teammate, he has to respect the opinion of people he doesn't agree with and find a way to co-exist. He was unable to do that, it took its toll and they had had enough. As has been said, they were other issues in recent weeks that the team finally had to do something. This move had to be made and I'm glad they did it.
No one is perfect, myself included, but you can't continue to have that type of dynamic in your dressing room. He has abhorrent views and they can't be tolerated.
Rempe73
RIP King of Pop
I’m really trying to forget about this situation and Tony by lighting up a J and playing be a pro, but I forgot I named my guy “Nicky DeAngelo.”
SA16
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The history is not relevant. We're talking about a recent incident. Looking back seven years is just trying to find reasons to cause problems. I don't agree with his views but about 50% of the country do he's just more outspoken about them.
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