Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXIX - Clever Title

[ZiGOODejad]

I would take Stepan back in a heartbeat. He easily would be our best defensive forward. As I’ve said previously. It would be worth looking into.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Which happens first: Rangers trading Tony DeAngelo or the Knicks reacquiring Derrick Rose?

 

[NYSPORTS]

He goes against everything the team is “trying” to do style of play wise

And generally once the team gets rid of you, very rarely do they bring guys back for a second go around

Can’t see them having much interest but maybe I’m wrong

Some fans love the names of ex-Rangers. They would bring back Callahan today, probably Zucs and and a handful Stepan. If you want a leader, get a coach while if you want a leader on ice they have to play well.

 

[RGY]

He goes against everything the team is “trying” to do style of play wise

And generally once the team gets rid of you, very rarely do they bring guys back for a second go around

Can’t see them having much interest but maybe I’m wrong

What style of play is that? Becoming more defensively responsible? Learning how to close out games in the 3rd period? Having the team defense improve is high on the priority list. Being better in faceoffs is high on the priority list.

This team is plenty fast. Sacrificing some of that to improve in other areas is part of building a team.

And before I read the nonsense about nostalgia...this is the guy who is currently available. He has an expiring contract. Youre not locked into anything. He isnt going to cost an arm and a leg to help in areas of the game that we are lacking because we are a young team. It is one damn player. We arent advocating being the Leafs and starting Thornton, Spezza, and Simmonds....

 

[TominNC]

Some fans love the names of ex-Rangers. They would bring back Callahan today, probably Zucs and and a handful Stepan. If you want a leader, get a coach while if you want a leader on ice they have to play well.

Yep, always that obsession with former players. If we got rid of someone because we were moving on, how are they any use to us years later?
I'm almost always against bringing players back.

 

[Lion Hound]

I wouldn’t be disappointed if Stepan returned. Limited role. By all accounts seemed to be a really good guy for the room. Add some more leadership. Adds depth at Center.

And...I named my dog after him, so Steps would be happy!

 

[East Coast Bias]

If this rhetoric of ADA being a racist neo-Nazi continues without proof continues, and ADA cannot find a team after he is released, there is a chance that he will have enough for a collusion lawsuit against the NHL akin to the one that Kaepernick brought against the NFL. It's probably something that's already being discussed by his agent.
It would be quite the case of irony.

lollll

except his GM and coach explicitly said he’s a child who cannot follow directions and act professionally. And was given multiple warnings over multiple events.

But good luck with this argument.

“Yes your honor I know my client was told 10 times to stop arguing with the coach and disturpting the work place because he didn’t get what he wanted, and I know there’s been many documented cases of this over his career but did you see Adam Herman’s tweets???”

 

[Ola]

Is NY home for his family ?

Was wondering this too, is he divorced?

 

[NYblades]

Which happens first: Rangers trading Tony DeAngelo or the Knicks reacquiring Derrick Rose?

Deja Vu Part II

 

[TominNC]

How many years until the "hey let's bring ADA back", when he gets dumped by his next two teams?

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

How many years until the "hey let's bring ADA back", when he gets dumped by his next two teams?

Considering Lundkvist is on the horizon and Fox is a superstar and Trouba actually plays defense, I'd say...2 years.

 

[RGY]

How many years until the "hey let's bring ADA back", when he gets dumped by his next two teams?

I mean I guess we could play dumb and ignore the context of the situation of when Stepan was traded vs now and why we would consider bringing him back today...and then try and parlay that into it meaning we will of course want DeAngelo back in a few years. I guess that makes sense.

Bottom line is Stepan is an expiring contract, with positive corsi metrics on the worst team in the NHL, and is 50% on the dot.

 

[Anthony5967]

This team needs to re-evaluate Brett Howden. I am not like most people where I ridicule him like crazy but they certainly can do better. He doesn't handle the puck well, fumbles most chances, isn't fast, weak on the boards, etc. How is Lafreniere going to do anything with him? Centers drive play, and to be asking a 19 year old who hasn't played competitively since last March (aside from these ten games) to drive a line himself is a joke. He is going to probably put up a poor statline this year but whatever. They need a C badly.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Id have no problem taking Stepan back if that deal was for Deangelo, the only issue i find is he doesnt solve a faceoff problem we have and ofcourse he's another right shot center which makes that even worse. I think thats the biggest problem we have with regards to faceoffs now is that our top 6 has 2 right shot centers and we lose a lot of left wall draws.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

What style of play is that? Becoming more defensively responsible? Learning how to close out games in the 3rd period? Having the team defense improve is high on the priority list. Being better in faceoffs is high on the priority list.

This team is plenty fast. Sacrificing some of that to improve in other areas is part of building a team.

And before I read the nonsense about nostalgia...this is the guy who is currently available. He has an expiring contract. Youre not locked into anything. He isnt going to cost an arm and a leg to help in areas of the game that we are lacking because we are a young team. It is one damn player. We arent advocating being the Leafs and starting Thornton, Spezza, and Simmonds....

I get it, I’m just not interested. And if they acquire him, is he gonna play 4C when Chytil comes back in a few weeks? Or they moving Chytil to the wing which dosen’t help him develop into a center?

The money dosen’t work either, Ottawa would have to retain to make things equal. And I imagine the team ideally would like to get something that could benefit the team past this season for Tony (whether or not they do is up in the air)

Stepan was a good solider but I’m just not interested these days

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Hockey is a dirty sport. Hockey is a violent sport. Hockey is a chippy sport. I don’t know where this obsession with class came from, but hockey is a sport that is full of boarding, elbowing, slashing, spearing, slew footing, late hits, charging, high hits, fights, chirps and trash talk. It used to be a sport full of guys full on swinging sticks at each other’s heads.

If there’s any perception of class it’s because of handshake lines and the fact that guys sometimes do answer the bell for their actions or that they fight but then they clap one another on the shoulder and say good tilt. It’s “classy” because it’s a game with lots of old traditions and a “code of honor”. It’s not f***ing cricket. It’s a dirty, violent, physical, sneaky game. There are classy players in it, and even many of those classy players are still sneaky dirty sometimes. I don’t know where this pinky up “classy” notion is coming from. It’s a sport where a guy takes a high stick, spits a bloody tooth on the ice, skates down the ice, finds the guy who clipped him and buries him into the corner. It’s a sport where a guy catches your teammate from behind and you go rip his gloves off and try to pound his face in. It’s a sport where players have been licking their chops seeing a guy come down the center lane with their head down since they were 14 because he’s gonna get his clock cleaned. That’s hockey.

Why aren't handshake lines done after every game like they do in other leagues? Or at least at the end of the last reg season game against a certain team? The NHL is really milking the handshake line haha

 

[Shesterkybomb]

This team needs to re-evaluate Brett Howden. I am not like most people where I ridicule him like crazy but they certainly can do better. He doesn't handle the puck well, fumbles most chances, isn't fast, weak on the boards, etc. How is Lafreniere going to do anything with him? Centers drive play, and to be asking a 19 year old who hasn't played competitively since last March (aside from these ten games) to drive a line himself is a joke. He is going to probably put up a poor statline this year but whatever. They need a C badly.

Howden is still growing into his style of play, he's been a lot better since the bubble, i think thats part of the reason rooney and blackwell were brought in, if Howden doesnt work there they have options. I really dont mind how hes been playing, i think people focus on him too much and pick apart things he does that all players do, no player is perfect but hes under a microscope here and in reality if Chytil is in the lineup hes on the 4th line.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

How many years until the "hey let's bring ADA back", when he gets dumped by his next two teams?

Not under this admin.

even though the ADA buy out is cheap that .833k is gonna hurt in 2 years IMO. If we can even get back an expiring contract and not retain much, I’m good. We should try to get him off the books next year.

 

[Rongomania]

How many years until the "hey let's bring ADA back", when he gets dumped by his next two teams?

I don't notice, but is it the same group of maniacs around here who always want our old retreads back here?

Def the same dudes who send drunken texts to ex's in some Hail Mary attempt at rekindling what once was.

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[NYRFANMANI]

The Stepan talk is interesting. Becomes an UFA after this season. Could be a great depth piece for the bottom 6. If not acquired sooner.

I just don't know if his skating is holding up. Haven't watched him in years, his skating was regressing back then and the league only got more skating heavy.

Cheap contract? sure.

 

[Fitzy]

No thanks to Stepan. Our management isn't super nostalgic bringing back guys for one final season like the NY Giants. The Dominic Moore situation was more of an anomaly. They even cut poor Petr Nedved when he was having a great camp.

In addition, this season is an evaluation season and putting our guys through the paces to try to make the playoffs with what we have right now. I don't think we're going to be interested in rentals this year.

If Stepan returns to the organization I have to imagine it would be as a scout or in some post-playing role.

 

[Rongomania]

did we ever confirm just wtf actually happened to Chytil? Please no wrist

 

[bl02]

did we ever confirm just wtf actually happened to Chytil? Please no wrist

Would be nice to know but haven’t been able to find anything.

 

[Anthony5967]

Howden is still growing into his style of play, he's been a lot better since the bubble, i think thats part of the reason rooney and blackwell were brought in, if Howden doesnt work there they have options. I really dont mind how hes been playing, i think people focus on him too much and pick apart things he does that all players do, no player is perfect but hes under a microscope here and in reality if Chytil is in the lineup hes on the 4th line.

But the thing is, good teams can move players up and down the lineup in a pinch, that' s depth. Howden is not a 3C, and if Chytil is going to be out weeks or any other player in the top six down the middle, you're in trouble. That line will not be putting points up. I remember when Stepan had his jaw broken during the cup run, the NYR had Dom Moore move up at times. He was solid. He forechecked well, was defensively responsible, had speed, puck skills, etc. Does Howden have much of any of that?