Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXIV

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Is anyone really arguing they should be getting 20 minute top line spots? I feel like most just want the players to get a fair shake to prove themselves with more than 10 minutes of ice time, in which the slightest mistake during that time has them riding the bench.
They got more than 10 minutes. Far more. They played less than the players in front of them and more than the ones behind. What else are you looking for?
 
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Just saying I’ve never seen anyone get punished a game plus for banging the penalty box door hard and getting an extra minor especially when game is as already way out of reach.
Here is basically a 20 year old mouthing off to the ref but ADA deserved a game plus for what he did? I guess I’m missing something
 
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I thought Rooney was among the better forwards in the 1st game. Maybe they want to see Gauthier make more of his ice time. If you ignore the lack of fighting, Lemeuix had a high impact game and really put himself ahead of some plays, a couple of blocked shots, created a good scoring chance, drew a couple of penalties. One guy was making the most of his opportunity with the ice time that he got. This is what added depth does. Also think Rooney can help on draws if needed.
Well put. Lemieux took his ice time and made himself noticeable. Since he arrived on the scene, Gauthier has been sort of cubic zirconia. Great to look at, until you examine it closely. When given more ice time, he continues to be no better or worse than he is when given less ice time.

Rooney was and is exactly the way you describe.
 
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Just saying I’ve never seen anyone get punished a game plus for banging the penalty box door hard and getting an extra minor especially when game is as already way out of reach.
You ever watch Scotty Bowman coach? Or Keenan?
Here is basically a 20 year old mouthing off to the ref but ADA deserved a game plus for what he did? I guess I’m missing something
Clearly the coaching staff seems to think so. And clearly they have the backing of management.

Quinn communicated to DeAngelo what is and what is not acceptable. That DeAngelo chose to cross the line is entirely on him.
 
You ever watch Scotty Bowman coach? Or Keenan?

Clearly the coaching staff seems to think so. And clearly they have the backing of management.

Quinn communicated to DeAngelo what is and what is not acceptable. That DeAngelo chose to cross the line is entirely on him.
I’ve surely watched them even met Scotty once nice guy :)
I mean if we are going back 30 years sorry I don’t remember.
I just don’t see how “that’s what he had coming to him” is valid. I can see letting him sit rest of game but another game? I just hope he’s gonna he fair and balanced with everyone else.
I’m not gonna even get into the fact ADA wasn’t even close to our worst player that game.
 
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They got more than 10 minutes. Far more. They played less than the players in front of them and more than the ones behind. What else are you looking for?
A whole 12 minutes for Kakko, wow, even less than last year. Only players getting less ice time are Lemmy an AHLer and Gauthier with a whopping 8 minutes, great way to develop him. Kakko was the best player in the 1st period last game, barely got rewarded for it, but the second he makes a mistake Quinn makes sure he knows about it by sitting him for 10 minutes.
 
Surprised no one put in a claim on Julius Honka. Basically the NYR could've had him for nothing and still didn't want him.
 
What is PLD really worth? Not in a vacuum but with current circumstances.

Would CLB want a 'swap' or a voluminous return? Right now Kakko for PLD is starting to make sense.... but its only 3 games and a megaton of over reactions since we've had no hockey for what feels like an eternity.
 
Well put. Lemieux took his ice time and made himself noticeable. Since he arrived on the scene, Gauthier has been sort of cubic zirconia. Great to look at, until you examine it closely. When given more ice time, he continues to be no better or worse than he is when given less ice time.

Rooney was and is exactly the way you describe.
Gauthier is a promising talent but its just more of the same. We have a lot of offensive talent. It desperately needs to be balanced out with defense.
 
Gauthier is a promising talent but its just more of the same. We have a lot of offensive talent. It desperately needs to be balanced out with defense.

Not just from our blueliners but from our forwards too.

Fast was one of our few wingers that was above average defensively.
 
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A whole 12 minutes for Kakko, wow, even less than last year. Only players getting less ice time are Lemmy an AHLer and Gauthier with a whopping 8 minutes, great way to develop him. Kakko was the best player in the 1st period last game, barely got rewarded for it, but the second he makes a mistake Quinn makes sure he knows about it by sitting him for 10 minutes.

Im so sick of trying to reiterate this to people that just dont get it or refuse to see it.
 
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When did you see Strome mouth off to the ref after a penalty last year? And then slam the door on his way into the box?

Johnson is pretty much a product of Martin. Martin, universally hailed as a hero here, was brought in to build a system. He has familiarity with Johnson. Johnson knows his system. Martin recommended Johnson to Quinn, Gorton & JD. They agreed. Quinn is giving his assistant head coach's choice a bit of a leash. The leash is not infinite in size. If he continues to play poorly, he will be scratched. But that is hardly a move that will come after 3 games.

Kakko has looked better with Chytil. And correctly being looked at to see if both of them can build on it. Where else is he being held back?

I never wanted Lafreniere to be moved to RW. But considering how many 'round here were touting him at center and how many even now are talking about how easy it is to switch from one side to the other, I am a bit surprised that this is being met with such vehemence. Not my choice, but there were plenty here that were clamoring for it.

DeAngelo deserved exactly what he got. And has only himself to blame for it.

You’re fighting a good fight but people don’t (want to) hear a voice of reason when it contradicts their believes. So much outrage after 3 games into the season with no real camp or preseason can only be explained by people needing an outlet to vent their frustration at the world.
 
A whole 12 minutes for Kakko, wow, even less than last year. Only players getting less ice time are Lemmy an AHLer and Gauthier with a whopping 8 minutes, great way to develop him. Kakko was the best player in the 1st period last game, barely got rewarded for it, but the second he makes a mistake Quinn makes sure he knows about it by sitting him for 10 minutes.
Umm....Kakko played over 14 minutes. Basically a minute less than Hughes.
 
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Just saying I’ve never seen anyone get punished a game plus for banging the penalty box door hard and getting an extra minor especially when game is as already way out of reach.
Here is basically a 20 year old mouthing off to the ref but ADA deserved a game plus for what he did? I guess I’m missing something

What you are missing is if / when the situation repeats itself in the future - when the stakes are higher - because the coach decided to give the player a pass.
 
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Well put. Lemieux took his ice time and made himself noticeable. Since he arrived on the scene, Gauthier has been sort of cubic zirconia. Great to look at, until you examine it closely. When given more ice time, he continues to be no better or worse than he is when given less ice time.

Rooney was and is exactly the way you describe.

Cubic zirconia, lol. They surely hoped for a diamond in a rough instead.
 
What will most likely happen is Quinn will run Gauthier out of town and when he lands another team will become a top 9 forwards who can do everything. lol
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You’re fighting a good fight but people don’t (want to) hear a voice of reason when it contradicts their believes. So much outrage after 3 games into the season with no real camp or preseason can only be explained by people needing an outlet to vent their frustration at the world.
As always, people tend to build unrealistic expectations.
Cubic zirconia, lol. They surely hoped for a diamond in a rough instead.
And I do not blame them. And he may yet develop into that. But right now, he seems to be less than the sum of his parts
 
My only objection is JJ ahead of Smith but even that is explainable as Martin’s choice rather than Quinn’s blunder. And don’t anyone remember outrage AT Smith and coaches when he was in the lineup in any capacity? I guess times change. Only 3 games folks, only 3 games...
 
I’ve surely watched them even met Scotty once nice guy :)
I mean if we are going back 30 years sorry I don’t remember.
I just don’t see how “that’s what he had coming to him” is valid. I can see letting him sit rest of game but another game? I just hope he’s gonna he fair and balanced with everyone else.
I’m not gonna even get into the fact ADA wasn’t even close to our worst player that game.
Quinn clearly has communicated to DeAngelo what is expected. DeAngelo took it and flourished. He then backslid. That is entirely on him.

No one is stating that DeAngelo was the worst player in that game. But when your boss tells you that something is expected and then you choose not to do it, the consequences are what the consequences are.
 
Umm on the season? Averaging 12:04 minutes....
Ummm.....the season is only 3 games old. If you are going to compare the entirety of last season to all of 3 games and hold them up as equal, I can just as easily point to one game as being evidence of playing more.
 
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