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Laf, you can't just go and kill your teammate...
Oh, it's Hajek? Oh, then carry on.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXXIII
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Laf, you can't just go and kill your teammate...
Oh, it's Hajek? Oh, then carry on.
If DeAngelo can be moved in the right deal for a player that will augment the starting lineup, am sure Gorton would look at it. Any belief that DeAngelo is dealt away for prospects is one of those flights of fancy. Unlike your hopes, Gorton did not move players for picks and prospects at the draft. Entering a year that they are expected to be in the hunt as a bubble team, Gorton is not going to weaken the team by trading production for promises of production.
No one looking at his minutes played would believe for a second that he is a third pairing defenseman. No one.
Gorton's, JD's & Quinn's desires are not misplaced. Sorry, but the sheer asset gathering portion of the rebuild is done and dusted.
HatTrick Swayze
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The combination of this, the clip of his goal on Shesty, and the clip of his pass to Chytil has me so in on this kid it’s ridiculous. What a time to be a fan of the NY Rangers everyone.
I personally cannot wait to see Lafreniere beat up Jack Hughes.
LiveLongandProspal
NY Rangers = America's Team
Laf will have the skill of Huberdeau and the assholiness of Marchand
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Let's Go Rangers!
He should take his lunch money while he’s at it.
Rongomania
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The Kakko headlock the first time they met in the NHL is still a personal highlight for me from last season.
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NY Rangers = America's Team
I don't condone violence against children...
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i do agree that the gathering of prospects is done...but id trade deangelo for zegras in a heartbeat
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And I am sure he would look at it if enough value was coming back for a future. They wouldn't deal ADA for Zegras if they've decided to move on from ADA (in favor of say, Schneider) and the offer was on the table? Nonsense.
And in any case, I'm not here to predict what they will do, but to say what they should do. If they make up their mind that ADA is not gonna be extended past his current deal, then he should be traded no matter what their playoff position unless they feel he's the difference between winning the Cup versus not (which he won't be).
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The Rangers have advanced salary cap analysis spreadsheets. If they didn't waive him for cap space it's a pretty safe bet they've ran the numbers and determined it isn't necesary.
Edge
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Lefreniere is the real deal. Seriously.
There are guys who could be among the best in their class.
There are guys who should be among best in their class.
And then there are the guys who are clearly the best in their class and are expected to remain so.
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And they should, if it was available (which as of now there's no reason to believe it would be).
Whether they would do the deal or not is another question, but declining that deal just because they are in the thick of the hunt for the 7th or 8th seed is silly.
Also I disagree that the "gathering of prospects," is entirely done.
The raw sell off phase is done. The stockpiling of any asset as a pure asset is done.
The targeted acquisition of young top talent at positions of need is not done and is never done. We all know the Rangers are still in the hunt for a 23 or under 1C type; hence the rumors that they are after guys like Eichel or PLD.
I don't buy that they wouldn't consider close-to-ready NHL talents that they are high on like Zegras.
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That was at the WC
GLORIOUS
And the first time they met in the NHL. I promise.
Completely outside the realm of reality, but here’s what I did for my NYR NHL 21 team.
Kakko + Strome + 2nd for PLD
Year 1:
K-Z-B
Bread - PLD - Goat
Laf - Chytil - Lemmy
DiGiuseppe - Rooney - Howden
Miller - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Smith - DeAngelo
Shesty
Geo
At the draft (we picked 11th):
ADA + Hajek for Lindholm (ANA) + 2nd (35th OA)
Anaheim is further from competing, wants to add youth, NYR is entering window. Plus we still picked 11th, 35th and 42nd.
Year 2:
Laf - Z - B
Bread - PLD - Goat/Kravstov
Kreider - Chytil - Kravstov/Goat
Lemmy - Barron - Howden
Miller - Trouba
Lindholm - Fox
Lindgren - Lundkvist
Shesty
Geo
Lots of Linds and Lunds.
I’ve got some contracts to renew but I got Buch extended pretty team friendly (4.2 x3) and Chytil and Goat bridged (1.75 x2 and 1.35 x2) and don’t plan to make any more moves. Just let the kids develop. If I need to augment the middle six RW I can package one of the bottom six forwards with Lundkvist and let Schneider step in next year.
I play like 1:4 of the games and sim the rest and we’re at 3rd in the East now. In case Gorts was looking for a blue print
Kakko + Strome + 2nd for PLD
Year 1:
K-Z-B
Bread - PLD - Goat
Laf - Chytil - Lemmy
DiGiuseppe - Rooney - Howden
Miller - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Smith - DeAngelo
Shesty
Geo
At the draft (we picked 11th):
ADA + Hajek for Lindholm (ANA) + 2nd (35th OA)
Anaheim is further from competing, wants to add youth, NYR is entering window. Plus we still picked 11th, 35th and 42nd.
Year 2:
Laf - Z - B
Bread - PLD - Goat/Kravstov
Kreider - Chytil - Kravstov/Goat
Lemmy - Barron - Howden
Miller - Trouba
Lindholm - Fox
Lindgren - Lundkvist
Shesty
Geo
Lots of Linds and Lunds.
I’ve got some contracts to renew but I got Buch extended pretty team friendly (4.2 x3) and Chytil and Goat bridged (1.75 x2 and 1.35 x2) and don’t plan to make any more moves. Just let the kids develop. If I need to augment the middle six RW I can package one of the bottom six forwards with Lundkvist and let Schneider step in next year.
I play like 1:4 of the games and sim the rest and we’re at 3rd in the East now. In case Gorts was looking for a blue print
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That's some alpha shit for an 19 year old to come into camp burying guys. Future captain of this team, book it.
Edge
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Completely outside the realm of reality, but here’s what I did for my NYR NHL 21 team.
Kakko + Strome + 2nd for PLD
Year 1:
K-Z-B
Bread - PLD - Goat
Laf - Chytil - Lemmy
DiGiuseppe - Rooney - Howden
Miller - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Smith - DeAngelo
Shesty
Geo
At the draft:
ADA + Hajek for Lindholm (ANA) + 2nd
Anaheim is further from competing, wants to add youth, NYR is entering window.
Year 2:
Laf - Z - B
Bread - PLD - Goat/Kravstov
Kreider - Chytil - Kravstov/Goat
Lemmy - Barron - Howden
Miller - Trouba
Lindholm - Fox
Lindgren - Lundkvist
Shesty
Geo
I’ve got some contracts to renew but I got Buch extended pretty team friendly (4.2 x3) and Chytil and Goat bridged (1.75 x2 and 1.35 x2) and don’t plan to make any more moves. Just let the kids develop. If I need to augment the middle six RW I can package one of the bottom six forwards with Lundkvist and let Schneider step in next year.
I play like 1:4 of the games and sim the rest and we’re at 3rd in the East now. In case Gorts was looking for a blue print
Are you implying I could never move Howden and depth pieces for Glass and Krebs, Smith for Hoglander or Johnson for Pelletier?
Blasphemy!
Nonsense says who? You? There is NOTHING to indicate that management is trading production for prospects. It is known that they love Zegras and he just had a fantastic junionrs. Is that enough for Gorton trade a 24 year old RD who was just pacing 60 points? I am not Gorton or JD and I do not play them on tv, but a move that significantly weakens the team when they have talked about competing they way that they have would be odd. COULD it happen? Sure. Anything could. But I am just not seeing it. On either side. And frankly the further you get away from Zegras, the less likely it gets.
I have to agree... if you’re willing to bury your future teammate than you’ve gotta be willing to bury the opponents and Hajek isn’t some Zucc sized guy either. If Laf plays with that kind of edge and brings the drive we know is basically his innate default level... we’re looking at, likely the most special Ranger rookie in a LONG time.
Occasionally I’ll roll a fantasy franchise and play as someone like Ottawa or Colorado or AZ and just go crazy making moves and getting my wish fulfillment in, but when I play with NYR, which is 95% of the time, I try to mimic real life as close as possible and hope reality follows suit
Edge
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Occasionally I’ll roll a fantasy franchise and play as someone like Ottawa or Colorado or AZ and just go crazy making moves and getting my wish fulfillment in, but when I play with NYR, which is 95% of the time, I try to mimic real life as close as possible and hope reality follows suit
I had to make room for Miller and Lundkvist in the second half of the season and so I went shopping. =)
As for Howden-Glass, that was mainly because I wanted another real player face on my squad.
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There is nothing to indicate they wouldn't if it was for the right player, either.
Not having done it yet isn't evidence that they wouldn't in the right deal. Their willingness to deal Buch at the 2019 draft for Zegras (essentially) is evidence that they are still on the hunt for that type of player. Has their willingness to make such a deal declined? Perhaps, but perhaps not. If they view a guy as a future 1C like Zegras I see no way they turn down such a deal.
I don't really think you know what they will or won't do, frankly. They talk about competing because that is coach and GM speak and it is true that landing Panarin, Kakko and Lafreniere have accelerated the rebuild; but you have let these facts fool you into making hardline declarations like they won't trade a player they think they will lose for a future 1C just because it's "futures."
They have said the rebuild has been accelerated but they've never said they were done looking for young players to compliment their core of guys like Kakko, Lafreniere, Chytil, Kravtsov, Fox and Miller (all 22 and under). In fact they have also said that their goal is to build a team that will compete for a long, long time which leads me to believe they are still open to making long-term decisions over short term ones within reason.
And trading a player who they know doesn't fit their long term plans for a player they think will fit their long term plans makes all the sense in the world to that end.
On top of all that.... if they did say they were done trading for players who aren't in the NHL yet, then I'd say they are simply making a bad decision. As someone else has suggested, you think it would be a bad move to trade DeAngelo for Zegras (or a similar type prospect they love) when they are trying to free up a spot for Schneider? That's just poor planning.
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