Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXX
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I think the fact that there are 2-4 different names out there is at least part of the reason why the Rangers aren't in a rush to name any of them captain.
I'll be surprised if we aren't a couple of years from one being named. And, unless Lafreniere completely shits the bed, I think that's where the smart money is.
I think Kreider and Zibanejad have very important roles to play. But I also think part of those roles includes serving as the connection between the Lundqvist/McD/etc. years, and a team that is (hopefully) going to be lead by Lafreniere, Kakko, etc.
I'd say they are probably being eyed as the bridge builders for this organization. A very important role, maybe even an underrated one.
I'll be surprised if we aren't a couple of years from one being named. And, unless Lafreniere completely shits the bed, I think that's where the smart money is.
I think Kreider and Zibanejad have very important roles to play. But I also think part of those roles includes serving as the connection between the Lundqvist/McD/etc. years, and a team that is (hopefully) going to be lead by Lafreniere, Kakko, etc.
I'd say they are probably being eyed as the bridge builders for this organization. A very important role, maybe even an underrated one.
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Barnaby
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I could easily see him sporting an A. I don’t see him as the captain. He seems like a fun loving and creative type of guy. I don’t see him as the traditional serious and stoic type of guy that’s going to be out there jawing with an official or holding an underperforming player accountable. I think they’d want someone more in the Toews or Landeskog mold.
My money is on Lafreniere getting a C in 2-3 years.
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Barnaby
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I think if the Rangers had any intention of naming Kreider captain then it would’ve been done a couple years ago. I’m not sure that the captaincy did Callahan or McDonough any favors so I have no issue with them waiting until they think they have the right guy groomed for the job.
I’m probably the minority here, but I don’t really give a shit who the Captain is.
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I don't care either, but all i know is I want my captain to show up to every f***ing game and show the kids how to compete every shift.
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I wouldn’t say it ruined him but it surely weighed on him. And oh yeah, getting “C” had absolutely nothing to do with his salary.
he is a leader and leads by example but I think the language issue rules him out as the C when there are other options
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Comments: this is a purely theoretical team that we’ll never see. But it makes an interesting base for a foundation of what we can start with when the roster building moves forward. It gives many and extremely interesting possibilities, although the following year Cap space again becomes more of a commodity. So now we just let GMJG play 3D chess ♟ with this...
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Howden to Seattle in expansion draft
cap space = likely around $10M (excluding eventual impact of ELC bonuses)
Comments: this is a purely theoretical team that we’ll never see. But it makes an interesting base for a foundation of what we can start with when the roster building moves forward. It gives many and extremely interesting possibilities, although the following year Cap space again becomes more of a commodity. So now we just let GMJG play 3D chess ♟ with this...
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Barnaby
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Based on his interviews and Instagram, it doesn’t seem like he has a great handle on the English language. It’s tough to name a guy captain who has difficulty communicating with teammates. I could def see him sporting an A if he hasn't already. He seems very likable and he def works hard.
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If Zibanejad was already signed for another 4-6 years, he'd probably be named captain. He brings it every night at both ends of the ice and that's exactly what you want in a captain. But he's not signed long term and we can't predict with certainty that his future will be in New York. Too many things can happen within the next two years that would reasonably force the Rangers hand to move away from him.
Kreider is here long term, but I don't think he is a great option to be quite honest. He doesn't play the kind of game you need your captain to play. While he might be vocal, he's streaky and has a tendency to disappear for stretches. You kind of want your captain to lead by example and I just don't really see it out of him on a consistent enough basis.
I think they will kick the can down the road and Lafreniere gets the C next in a couple of seasons.
Kreider is here long term, but I don't think he is a great option to be quite honest. He doesn't play the kind of game you need your captain to play. While he might be vocal, he's streaky and has a tendency to disappear for stretches. You kind of want your captain to lead by example and I just don't really see it out of him on a consistent enough basis.
I think they will kick the can down the road and Lafreniere gets the C next in a couple of seasons.
Some teams give that C to their future leaders, ultimately forcing them to become that player they hope will lead them to a Cup, even if that player isn’t a true “vocal, captain-lite” leader yet. Like McDavid.
I’m not suggesting he’s not a leader — but at 23 years of age, he’s still a kid In the eyes of some of his peers.
Other teams select to give their captaincy to a proven vet like Williams, who doesn’t possess a fraction of the talent McDavid does, but has made a reputation for showing up when it counts most.
At the end of the day, I don’t think the results will differ much if Trouba, Kreider, or Zbad is Captain. Matter of fact, I think we’ll have pretty much the same exact record regardless of who Quinn selects as our next Captain.
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Idk I get that's it's mostly symbolic and doesn't really matter, but something just feels incomplete not having a captain. Even mediocre or flat out bad captains have a place in a team's history. This trend of not having a captain bc you're not sure who should have one sucks.
Give me a rebuilding team with a 3rd liner captain every now and then. Not every captaincy needs to be manned by a future Hall of Famer.
Part of me wishes it was a requirement that all teams have one captain and two alternates and that was it.
The teams true Captain was bought out and he now plays in DC.
We have a lockerroom of hungry Vets, prospects, and Average Joes trying to make a name for themselves.
If and when this team gets a real Captain, keep rolling with a bunch of Alternates. The next real leader will step up on and off the ice.
We have a lockerroom of hungry Vets, prospects, and Average Joes trying to make a name for themselves.
If and when this team gets a real Captain, keep rolling with a bunch of Alternates. The next real leader will step up on and off the ice.
KirkAlbuquerque
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seriously. Its like holding out for Mr. Right, waiting for Lafreniere to grow pubes and become a man, like, your captain doesn't have to be a superstar. Kreider is the perfect choice for the next few years. He's one of the older players, the longest tenured now that Staal and Hank are gone, the one the media always go to after a game, and he's very obviously a leader in the locker room. Its a no brainer.
Barnaby
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Im not sure Zibanejad is a natural fit at captain even if he was locked up long term. He strikes me as more of an easy going, softer spoken, and humble type of guy. I don’t see him or Panarin being the “lead the men into battle” type. I think you need the type of personality that will get on a guys case and demand accountability. Lafreniere seems to profile as that sort maybe 2-3 years down the line.
Igor Shestyorkin
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Anyone saying the C ruined McDonagh has no clue what they’re talking about. The injuries piling up, mileage and being stuck next to one of the worst defenseman of the decade were bigger reasons for his downfall than the C. He was a fine captain.
Barnaby
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“Ruin him,” is an exaggeration, but it doesn’t sound like it did him any favors either. I don’t think it’s coincidental that the team hasn’t rushed to give it to anyone else since, and is waiting for the right fit.
I tend to think that this is something that matters more to fans than the players. I don’t think the players are wandering around like Lemmings until they see someone walking around with a C on his chest.
That’s also a real mischaracterization of Dan Girardi. He ate a lot of tough minutes for a lot of years. Unfortunately, he’s judged By many on the last contract he signed as the mileage eventually caught up to him.
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