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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXX

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Rangers in 7 said:
ive spoken numerous times that people seem to think its impossible to play the off wing or off handed d spot.....its a joke that people seem to think that a player just forgets how to play hockey when they switch sides of the rink
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Obviously they don't forget how to play, but it is more difficult to play the off-side as a dman, especially if they haven't done it before. Taking players who already aren't great defensively and moving them to their offside seems like a particularly bad idea.
 
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Leetch3 said:
it makes zero sense to carry 14 forwards so 1 of blackwell, rooney or pdg will be gone. if barron makes the team then a 2nd one will be gone cause you don't need 14 forwards.
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You still need some cap space to operate with though. Adding Barron or Kravtsov means you'd end up with just 12 forwards
 
effen said:
I wouldn't be afraid of trading Fox. He's the likely piece after his ELC to go for a real deal under-25 top-6 C.
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Fox is getting the A and staying put for a long time.
I have to believe that Buch, TDA and Strome will be used to find that long term top-6 C as early as by the deadline if not next off-season.
 
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Just found this gem going through old Instagram stories I’d posted. This is the night of Mika’s 5 goal game earlier in the game.
 
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GAGLine said:
Obviously they don't forget how to play, but it is more difficult to play the off-side as a dman, especially if they haven't done it before. Taking players who already aren't great defensively and moving them to their offside seems like a particularly bad idea.
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I disagree that a player becomes worse defensively when they switch sides....thats just ridiculous
 
Rangers in 7 said:
I disagree that a player becomes worse defensively when they switch sides....thats just ridiculous
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They don't necessarily become worse, but it is harder.

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Last season, there were 196 lefties and 130 righties on defense. Ideally, every coach in the NHL wants every pairing to be made up of a left-handed shot and a right-handed shot. If you have to play two lefties, one of them is going to be in a tough spot playing on his off side.
“We prefer to have guys on their strong sides as defensemen,” Sullivan said. “It helps going back for pucks. You’re always on your forehand. You have the ability to change the point of attack on your forehand, make that (defense-to-defense) pass. It puts guys in more advantageous positions. That’s not to say that some guys can’t play the off side. But I think it’s obvious that our preference is to keep them on their strong sides.”
Said New York Islanders coach Barry Trotz: “It’s a huge luxury. When you get a lefty and lefty (on defense), it takes a unique player, a guy like (former Penguins defenseman) Sergei Gonchar who could do that a little bit. You lose about a third of your ice when you play your off hand. Just offensively, you lose a third of the ice. You get some good looks when you jump into holes because you’re on your off hand. You get a little more one-timers. It’s a unique skill to be able to do that.
“It is a luxury, and you need a really good, poised player with some ability with the hands and the ability to contort so he can open up the ice for himself. Having two lefties, passing for your partner is a little different spot than when you have a lefty-righty. There is an adjustment for everybody who does that. It is a luxury these days.”
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Holding in clearing attempts at the point off the boards is a lot easier on the strong side as well.
 
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NYRangers16 said:
So are you prepared to trade Fox? or buyout Trouba’s 8m long term deal? Because that’s the result of what you wrote. TDA is a great player and I agree he has a big time personality that works in NY, but you can’t pay your RD 20m+ in a capped league. Right now it’s fine but Fox will get paid eventually. It’s not an issue now, but that Trouba contract will force our hand eventually.
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The price isn’t set in stone. But essentially yes I would spend a little more cash on RD if we know for a fact that most if not all of LD and our 2C ( nils return) would be on ELC and then able to bridge after. That essentially gives you 5 years or so of control of the cheaper assets. A great deal can happen in 5 years, as well as trouba’s contract becomes more moveable, trades, free agents, injuries, draft picks etc. we don’t have to spend a set amount on every position player as long as the overall product on the ice is below the cap. Besides LaF, Kakko, Fox and shesty I don’t think your are going to see many long term ( 7-8) year deals until the economic climate stabilizes but yes as long as they are not terribad contracts I have no problem spending more on the right side. There are many avenues the rangers can explore to keep their core players where they are as they see fit
 
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jay from jersey said:
The price isn’t set in stone. But essentially yes I would spend a little more cash on RD if we know for a fact that most if not all of LD and our 2C ( nils return) would be on ELC and then able to bridge after. That essentially gives you 5 years or so of control of the cheaper assets. A great deal can happen in 5 years as well, trouba contract becomes more moveable trades free agents injuries draft picks etc. we don’t have to spend a set amount on every position player as long as the overall product on the ice is below the cap. Besides LaF, Kakko, Fox and shesty I don’t think your are going to see many long term ( 7-8) year deals until the economic climate stabilizes but yes as long as they are not terribad contracts I have no problem spending more on the right side. There are many avenues the rangers can explore to keep their core players where they are as they see fit
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The RHD right now are about 13.7 that’s managable. Once Fox starts getting paid that goes up plus TDA is a FA in 2 years. So it would easily top 18m for year 3. That’s almost 1/4th of the cap. It’s not possible. And Trouba will still have 3 NMC years at that point. The reality is Trouba’s contract is why TDA won’t/can’t be kept. That’s just reality, no matter how much we may want it not to be.
 
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The RHD right now are about 13.7 that’s managable. Once Fox starts getting paid that goes up plus TDA is a FA in 2 years. So it would easily top 18m for year 3. That’s almost 1/4th of the cap. It’s not possible. And Trouba will still have 3 NMC years at that point. The reality is Trouba’s contract is why TDA won’t/can’t be kept. That’s just reality, no matter how much we may want it not to be.
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a lot can happen between now and then. I hope he works out on the left side as well. I also see the cap going up in 3 years once teams start making revenue again so I doubt it would be 1/4. Using current numbers and flat cap you would be correct. Time is going to have to work some things out
 
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jay from jersey said:
a lot can happen between now and then. I hope he works out on the left side as well. I also see the cap going up in 3 years once teams start making revenue again so I doubt it would be 1/4. Using current numbers and flat cap you would be correct. Time is going to have to work some things out
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I mean this is a speculation thread, so yeah time will decide all this. The only way I see it is if TDA can switch to the left side which plenty of other posters have commented on. I won’t beat a dead horse, but if he can’t make that switch it doesn’t seem likely. I do like the energy he brings especially for NY.
 
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