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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXX

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Roo Returns said:
I'm fine with the top nine but a 4th line of Lemiuex with Howden and some AAAA player isn't going to cut it.
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I mean, that really
Roo Returns said:
I'm fine with the top nine but a 4th line of Lemiuex with Howden and some AAAA player isn't going to cut it.
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I mean, that really depends on usage/whether Howden and/or Lemieux take a step, etc. adding a 4th line quality guy on a cheap one year deal to bolster that group is do-able. For example, Grabner is still unsigned. 1 year 900k and a 4th line of Lemieux Howden Grabner is better than fine.
 
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So Brooks pumping Barons tires I see. Working out w Kreider . Would be great to see him earn a spot on the team

I really hope Quinn uses the 4th line
 
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I would rather play Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Kakko, Lafreniere, Buchnevich, Chytil more than use the 4th line more regardless of who is on it.
 
Vitto79 said:
So Brooks pumping Barons tires I see. Working out w Kreider . Would be great to see him earn a spot on the team

I really hope Quinn uses the 4th line
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Outside of this board, Barron might be the player who most casual fans aren't really paying attention to right now.

I think he has a legit shot to make this squad, and the Rangers are certainly hoping that he pushes talent like Howden or Lemieux.
 
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Roo Returns said:
I'm fine with the top nine but a 4th line of Lemiuex with Howden and some AAAA player isn't going to cut it.
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Ideally they play as few minutes as possible, but in a congested season that will be a challenge.
 
Edge said:
Outside of this board, Barron might be the player who most casual fans aren't really paying attention to right now.

I think he has a legit shot to make this squad, and the Rangers are certainly hoping that he pushes talent like Howden or Lemieux.
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Hoglander?
 
Vitto79 said:
So Brooks pumping Barons tires I see. Working out w Kreider . Would be great to see him earn a spot on the team

I really hope Quinn uses the 4th line
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Tough to fit him in under the cap at 1.775m. Not impossible, but they would have to send down Blackwell and Rooney to make it happen
 
Why does Barron have big performance bonuses as a 6th round pick?
 
Fitzy said:
Gotcha. I thought a lot of it had to do with draft position, but apparently players can negotiate on that.
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Straight out of the draft, the bonuses are somewhat determined based on draft position but after the college career Barron had, it makes sense that he negotiated for more bonuses
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Straight out of the draft, the bonuses are somewhat determined based on draft position but after the college career Barron had, it makes sense that he negotiated for more bonuses
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Makes sense- I see that Fox also has some nice bonuses.
 
Edge said:
I'd say your two most likely candidates are ADA and Lundkvist --- albeit for different reasons.

ADA is an NHL-level player, but one will who require a corresponding salary. So any deal there is more likely going to be for someone in a similar are/salary range.

Lundkvist doesn't carry that same salary, but he also doesn't carry the NHL level accomplishments either. Any deal for him would likely be focused on a similarly aged player, or would require a follow-up move if he's traded for someone with a decent salary. Because otherwise you're looking at having to pay for a youngish/prime second line center AND whatever you pay to ADA.

To that last point, that's one reason I tend to think the business aspect of things is likely to mean that ADA is the sacrafice at some point. Looking at how the roster is likely to shape, you're going to instances where the Rangers will be looking to backfill with cheaper contracts.
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I would trade Nils Lundqvist for Turcotte right now. Or a similar highly rated center prospect. Center and RD are the 2 hardest positions to fill on a team. I don’t think DeAngelo breaks the bank here. The loss of nils would suck but Schneider mitigates it.

everyone has to understand a thing about players. Some guys play in the league really well. They get to the garden and they aren’t as good as they were before or can’t take the pressure of playing in the big stage of NY. We have seen it time and time again. Not only does tony D play well, he plays in New York well. He skates around on the ice like he’s got the biggest swinging D... in the building. Don’t get it twisted, that moxy or brashness or whatever you want to call it makes the other guys around you try harder and play better. Wilson has it in Washington, Marchand in Boston is another and Tony has it for us. That’s the main reason why I’m really hesitant to deal him. He has shown he can deliver on the big stage and is very well liked in the room as a teammate. When the going got tough for him, he didn’t cry, pout, or demand a trade. He buckled down and worked harder and improved every year. DeAngelo could play on my squad any day of the week, I wish we had 3 more just like him in various positions
 
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everyone has to understand a thing about players. Some guys play in the league really well. They get to the garden and they aren’t as good as they were before or can’t take the pressure of playing in the big stage of NY. We have seen it time and time again. Not only does tony D play well, he plays in New York well. He skates around on the ice like he’s got the biggest swinging D... in the building. Don’t get it twisted, that moxy or brashness or whatever you want to call it makes the other guys around you try harder and play better. Wilson has it in Washington, Marchand in Boston is another and Tony has it for us. That’s the main reason why I’m really hesitant to deal him. He has shown he can deliver on the big stage and is very well liked in the room as a teammate. When the going got tough for him, he didn’t cry, pout, or demand a trade. He buckled down and worked harder and improved every year. DeAngelo could play on my squad any day of the week, I wish we had 3 more just like him in various positions
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So are you prepared to trade Fox? or buyout Trouba’s 8m long term deal? Because that’s the result of what you wrote. TDA is a great player and I agree he has a big time personality that works in NY, but you can’t pay your RD 20m+ in a capped league. Right now it’s fine but Fox will get paid eventually. It’s not an issue now, but that Trouba contract will force our hand eventually.
 
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NYRangers16 said:
Which he hasn’t played in how long? It’s a fantasy that he can do that effectively. If I’m wrong about that, then we keep him obviously.
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ive spoken numerous times that people seem to think its impossible to play the off wing or off handed d spot.....its a joke that people seem to think that a player just forgets how to play hockey when they switch sides of the rink
 
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I wouldn't be afraid of trading Fox. He's the likely piece after his ELC to go for a real deal under-25 top-6 C.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Tough to fit him in under the cap at 1.775m. Not impossible, but they would have to send down Blackwell and Rooney to make it happen
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it makes zero sense to carry 14 forwards so 1 of blackwell, rooney or pdg will be gone. if barron makes the team then a 2nd one will be gone cause you don't need 14 forwards.
 
effen said:
I wouldn't be afraid of trading Fox. He's the likely piece after his ELC to go for a real deal under-25 top-6 C.
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ahh yes the guy who was one of the best rookies in the NHL this season and who basically told two teams he won't play for them because he wanted to play for the rangers is going to get traded by the rangers within 3 years

this has to be up there with one of the worst takes ive ever seen
 
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