Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXVIII

[Thirty One]

People want to trade for a perfect 2C carved by Michaelaneglo

Was he the one with the nunchaku?

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Was he the one with the nunchaku?

He was the one with snakes for hair I think

 

[rangers1314]

“There are better options out there for the money and the assets it would require to get him”

WhY dOeS eVeRyOnE *HATE* mOnAhAn??

Sorry, problem?

It seems as though the topic of him as player is quiet divisive here, cost aside.

 

[Off Sides]

I don't hate Monahan, I think the Rangers are going into a big transition year as is, may as well see what shakes out before making bigish trades etc. Also given the uncertainty around the season(covid), expansion, and the amount of cap space they gain next off-season... I think they can make more informed choices as those things get figured out.

 

[Leetch3]

This idea that Laf shouldn’t be with Zibby because it puts too much pressure on him misses the point - that being to have 3 good lines. If you are designing lines like teams did in the 90s then that’s different. But arguably having Panarin on one line, and Zibby as a second and then ?-Chytil-Buch/Kreider on the 3rd gives us 3 quality lines to roll with

no one is saying they don’t want 3 good lines. That isn’t the issue but you don’t need to rush Lafreniere onto the top line. He will be on the top line soon enough, but if he needs a minute to adjust to the nhl that’s ok too...

Good chance he will be on the top line before the year is over.

 

[Raspewtin]

to me, Monahan isn't bad but he's greatly helped by Gaudreau and he's dog shit defensively. if we have to cough up prime assets I'd really rather go for a good two-way center than a Monahan.

 

[Avery16]

Sorry, problem?

It seems as though the topic of him as player is quiet divisive here, cost aside.

Maybe I missed it. I haven’t seen anyone say anything worse than he isn’t a good enough return for what Calgary is rumored to be seeking from us, and is overpaid for what he does. What have you seen?

 

[effen]

line chemistry is an unpredictable thing - lines don't carry over month to month, let alone year to year. when they do, it's precious. they'll work themselves out, and are very unlikely to 'work' via force feeding.

i think KZB is gonna do ~all the heavy lifting and Panarin-Strome are gonna take soft matchups, at least for the first part of the year. I'd be pretty shocked if Laf wasn't on the 3rd line when games start up again.

 

[EdJovanovski]

line chemistry is an unpredictable thing - lines don't carry over month to month, let alone year to year. when they do, it's precious. they'll work themselves out, and are very unlikely to 'work' via force feeding.

i think KZB is gonna do ~all the heavy lifting and Panarin-Strome are gonna take soft matchups, at least for the first part of the year. I'd be pretty shocked if Laf wasn't on the 3rd line when games start up again.

If Laf is staying LW I don't see our lines being Panarin-Strome-Kakko & KZB
That would place Laf on the 3rd line and he'd be playing with babies. I assume he's going to be playing with Mika.

Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Lafreniere - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Kreider - Chytil - Kravtsov
Lemieux - Howden - Gauthier

 

[Leetch3]

Who gives a shit if Monahan is a product of gaudreau he’d becoming here to play with panarin who is even better...people act like we’d be putting him on a line by himself

 

[Raspewtin]

Who gives a shit if Monahan is a product of gaudreau he’d becoming here to play with panarin who is even better...people act like we’d be putting him on a line by himself

it's a valid criticism considering he doesn't PK, is not a matchup player, and is terrible defensively. I don't wanna say he's redundant but he certainly doesn't add anything we don't already have.

 

[aufheben]

People want to trade for a perfect 2C carved by Michaelaneglo

Well if we’re trading the best offensive-defenseman we’ve had in 20 years then yeah, lol.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Who gives a shit if Monahan is a product of gaudreau he’d becoming here to play with panarin who is even better...people act like we’d be putting him on a line by himself

Monahan is basically Ryan Strome, coming at the expense of Buchnevich or DeAngelo? Which would leave our RW depth as Kakko-Kravtsov-Gauthier. Not good.

 

[aufheben]

Who gives a shit if Monahan is a product of gaudreau he’d becoming here to play with panarin who is even better...people act like we’d be putting him on a line by himself

Because if that’s the case why not just stick with Strome and keep DeAngelo?

 

[Leetch3]

Because if that’s the case why not just stick with Strome and keep DeAngelo?

because he is better than strome...anyone saying he is basically strome has no idea what they are talking about

 

[EdJovanovski]

Because if that’s the case why not just stick with Strome and keep DeAngelo?

Also the fact Strome is proven to have that chemistry with Panarin, Monahan might not. Not every player clicks with every player.
Monahan also carries a 6.375M cap hit with NMC for 3 more years.
Plus, his hair reminds me of Troubas.

 

[bl02]

I don't hate Monahan, I think the Rangers are going into a big transition year as is, may as well see what shakes out before making bigish trades etc. Also given the uncertainty around the season(covid), expansion, and the amount of cap space they gain next off-season... I think they can make more informed choices as those things get figured out.

this!

 

[aufheben]

because he is better than strome...anyone saying he is basically strome has no idea what they are talking about

He’s a better version of Strome.*

Is the extra 10-or-so points Monahan will score over Strome really worth DeAngelo?

Like I realize the perfect #2C will probably not be available, but we need a two-way center, not a guy who will provide slightly more offense.

 

[SA16]

because he is better than strome...anyone saying he is basically strome has no idea what they are talking about

I don't think the difference between Strome and Monahan, if played on a line with Panarin, is anywhere close to the difference between DeAngelo and whoever would take his spot in the lineup.

 

[Avery16]

because he is better than strome...anyone saying he is basically strome has no idea what they are talking about

He’s better than Strome, but we can still do better for that cap hit or less.

 

[NYR]

I don't hate Monahan, I think the Rangers are going into a big transition year as is, may as well see what shakes out before making bigish trades etc. Also given the uncertainty around the season(covid), expansion, and the amount of cap space they gain next off-season... I think they can make more informed choices as those things get figured out.

Transition year.. You mean doing nothing to improve the team?

We gonna continue to wait until we can't afford Zbad's next contract?

I'm not saying we're gonna be contenders but how about we start filling in the pieces to the puzzle already?

Still forever waiting for a 4th line center..

 

[Daves a mess]

Transition year.. You mean doing nothing to improve the team?

We gonna continue to wait until we can't afford Zbad's next contract?

I'm not saying we're gonna be contenders but how about we start filling in the pieces to the puzzle already?

Still forever waiting for a 4th line center..

Haha. That really is a great point. We can't draft one and we certainly suck at signing one.

Maybe Barron can be that answer.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Transition year.. You mean doing nothing to improve the team?

We gonna continue to wait until we can't afford Zbad's next contract?

I'm not saying we're gonna be contenders but how about we start filling in the pieces to the puzzle already?

Still forever waiting for a 4th line center..

We don’t have a time machine so how do suggest the Rangers accelerate youth? Emerging stars and “ still forever waiting forth line center”? That’s the focus or complaint during a pandemic and flat cap which is crippling other orgs while the Rangers rebuild is loaded?

Really? Com’on man!!

 

[jay from jersey]

Does Fontaine have any NHL potential? I remember people saw him as a bit of a dark horse a while ago. Could he be a late bloomer?

I thought Fontaine had the potential to be a top notch 4th line center in the Dominic Moore mold. I guess he jus never put it all together

 

[NYR]

We don’t have a time machine so how do suggest the Rangers accelerate youth? Emerging stars and “ still forever waiting forth line center”? That’s the focus or complaint during a pandemic and flat cap which is crippling other orgs while the Rangers rebuild is loaded?

Really?

There's no such thing as accelerating youth and having a legit 4th line center is very relevant since teams run a much more balanced lineup these days.
All you have to do is look at the Islanders where their 4th line was a major factor in them advancing to the 2nd round.