Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXVII

[Machinehead]

Which, to be honest, I don't think is out of the realm of possibility. For now, he's better suited on the fourth line. But perhaps he takes a step forward defensively and stabilizes the 3rd line with his physicality and board play.

That would be a great outcome.

Sure, I do like Lemieux.

It's just that I also like Gauthier and I want him to get a fair look. Shit happens so both should at some point.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

If we're looking at a cost-effective/killing time type of outcome, you're probably not far off at all.

I’d much rather just do that and see what happens this season than walk away from Strome altogether and basically be forced to make a trade for a 2C

If Buchnevich for Monahan is the basis for a deal there’s going to be a significant plus on the Ranger side and I just have no appetite for it frankly

At that point just ride Strome out for the year and hope Chytil can step in at 2C later in the season

 

[Levitate]

I was pissed immediately after he did that.

Disrespectful little shit.

How many teams would have loved to have traded places. Yeah, I get it, no one is happy losing games. But there were a tournament full of kids that would have LOVED to have been part of a team COMPETING for the Goal Medal.

I don't really get this point of view. He should be grateful that he just lost in the gold medal game? Ignoring everything else I think it's silly to act like those kids couldn't or shouldn't be disappointed that they got so close but ultimately lost. A silver medal isn't much consolation.
Whether he should have chucked it is maybe another discussion but I don't think it's fair to hold these kids or even adults to this standard of "well you failed but you should just be happy you were there in the first place". It's ok for people to be disappointed or upset.

 

[Edge]

I’d much rather just do that and see what happens this season than walk away from Strome altogether and basically be forced to make a trade for a 2C

If Buchnevich for Monahan is the basis for a deal there’s going to be a significant plus on the Ranger side and I just have no appetite for it frankly

At that point just ride Strome out for the year and hope Chytil can step in at 2C later in the season

I will say that I don't know if the add from the Rangers end would end up being as hard to swallow as some might think --- at least from a fan perspective.

 

[carminejr]

How does it matter not at all?

I am glad you brought up Kevin Hayes.

He was ATROCIOUS on the faceoff dot in his first 2 years. Worse than Howden. Far worse. 36% on the dot while playing 79 games both years. Yes in his 3rd year he finally turned the tide and started to figure it out, but why go down that same path with Barron. Why not have him start on the Wing and ease way into Center taking Draws here and there, shifts at Center here and there when the flow of the game allows for it.

The center position is so much more demanding than wing. It absolutely matters that he wasnt playing any center whatsoever in College.

This season Barron won 117 of 202 faceoffs, 58% clip.

 

[GAGLine]

I’d much rather just do that and see what happens this season than walk away from Strome altogether and basically be forced to make a trade for a 2C

If Buchnevich for Monahan is the basis for a deal there’s going to be a significant plus on the Ranger side and I just have no appetite for it frankly

At that point just ride Strome out for the year and hope Chytil can step in at 2C later in the season

The thing I don't get is that Strome has to know that the Rangers walking away is a possibility, and if that happens, he has to hope another team will offer him more than the Rangers arbitration number. Which team is giving that to him? Which team is giving him a better opportunity than playing with Panarin? Is he hoping for a long term deal, even if it's for a smaller AAV?

 

[GAGLine]

I will say that I don't know if the add from the Rangers end would end up being as hard to swallow as some might think --- at least from a fan perspective.

Lol, Howden confirmed. For the record, I'm not down on him like so many others, but I'm sure lots of fans, at least on this board, would be happy with his inclusion.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Lol, Howden confirmed. For the record, I'm not down on him like so many others, but I'm sure lots of fans, at least on this board, would be happy with his inclusion.

Smells like Hajek to me

 

[Synergy27]

My read on the Strome situation is they’re hoping the arbitrator settles on a deal high enough so the team can walk away, and when Strome can’t find a team to give him the deal he wants, come back to the Rangers lower price they offered in arbitration

And then he’s shipped off the first chance they get at the deadline

Can this happen? If they walk away from the arbitration award, are they allowed to resign him as a UFA?

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I will say that I don't know if the add from the Rangers end would end up being as hard to swallow as some might think --- at least from a fan perspective.

So, like Hajek level perhaps?

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

May be the front office has some high hopes on some of the non-star potential prospects going into the coming season. Possibly they may feel that Barron could slide into that 3rd line center role to provide some defensive responsibility and is solid in the face-off circle. The question would be who would flank him? You don't want to have a line of rookies in Laff/Barron/Gauthier.

If the Rangers do not walk away from Strome or trade for a 2C, possibly Chytil slides to the Right? Laff - Barron - Chytil.

I would still like to see a depth veteran forward who is solid defensively and can PK signed. Not a fan of Howden.

Kreider - Zbad - Buch
Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Laff - Barron - Chytil
Lemiuex - Soderberg - Gauthier

 

[DutchShamrock]

I'm fine with Monahan as a second line center.

I think there's a substantial gap there between Strome and Monahan and I don't think the whole "they're the same player" would gain much traction anywhere beyond this board.

Does he benefit from playing with Gadreau? Sure, though I think he delivers more with superior players than Strome does, stylistically fits better, and has significantly more track record under his belt than Strome.

I certainly prefer Monahan to Strome, but it's not that simple. And I know you aren't implying its that easy.

He costs $2m more than what we project Strome at. So we trade Buchnevich, walk from Strome, and crowbar ADA in? The right side is barren. So you play a left wing off side or put Chytil there and go with Howden on the 3rd? That's asking a lot from Kakko.

Monahan is the same defensive contribution as Strome, so you pay more for a guy to get points with your top wing. He's the better player but I don't know if that is the better team.

I need more info, I guess. Do we have a trade lined up for Strome? Or do we have a landing spot for Smith that isn't negative assets? Are there more moving parts other than Buch and Monahan? ADA and Hanafin? I'm inclined to wait for teams to part with a player for cap reasons.

 

[GAGLine]

Can this happen? If they walk away from the arbitration award, are they allowed to resign him as a UFA?

This year only, if the team walks away from the arbitration award, 4 days later the player can elect to accept the number that the team offered in arbitration. So if the Rangers offer 4 mil for 1 year, and the arbitrator awards 5 mil and the Rangers walk away, Strome is then free to negotiate with other teams. After 4 days, he can decide to accept the Rangers 4 mil offer.

 

[True Blue]

is pretty much locked in to start. Where Kakko and Chytil slot and who is the 12th forward are my questions.

I think that one of the dominos is Kakko vs. Gauthier to see who gets to crack the 2 RW first. If Strome is here, I think that he ge

 

[True Blue]

If someone we have can’t beat out the defenseman who is rated last in just about every statistical category over the past 3 years, and including the eye test, for the third pairing on this team... we have some major problems.

Then it should not really be an issue at all

 

[Guyute]

Georgie re-signs 2 year $2.425 AAV

 

[jay from jersey]

May be the front office has some high hopes on some of the non-star potential prospects going into the coming season. Possibly they may feel that Barron could slide into that 3rd line center role to provide some defensive responsibility and is solid in the face-off circle. The question would be who would flank him? You don't want to have a line of rookies in Laff/Barron/Gauthier.

If the Rangers do not walk away from Strome or trade for a 2C, possibly Chytil slides to the Right? Laff - Barron - Chytil.

I would still like to see a depth veteran forward who is solid defensively and can PK signed. Not a fan of Howden.

Kreider - Zbad - Buch
Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Laff - Barron - Chytil
Lemiuex - Soderberg - Gauthier

I think Rooney might get an extended look at 4C for 15-20 games to see if he can stick. He wasn’t bad for the devils. Good on the forecheck and a good Pk guy. He’s also not slow, though not the fastest guy by any means. I really wanted Girgensons for that role or even Derek grant. Ana didn’t break the bank for him and he’s capable of potting 20 goals while playing really good D. I think Gorts n JD are high on Rooney though, I think they even mentioned him in an interview lately if I’m not mistaken.

 

[DutchShamrock]

Georgie re-signs 2 year $2.425 AAV

 

[Thirty One]

Don't love it.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Tough look for all the people a few days ago telling me “No way Georgiev gets over 2 million” lol

 

[NYR Viper]

I’m much more comfortable beginning to see where the chips fall and working ‘around’ a forward group containing Monahan in lieu of Buch. At RW they can slide Kreider over or keep Strome for a season and play him at RW. Filling the 2C spot is more important than a single season lacking a true top-6 RW. Especially with so many young players looking for opportunities like Lafreniere, Kravtsov, Barron, Gauthier, Lemieux. The depth of the organization is at wing.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

I dont see how anyone can complain about that money. It’s a very friendly bridge.

 

[Thirty One]

Tough look for all the people a few days ago telling me “No way Georgiev gets over 2 million” lol

 

[Fitzy]

Tough look for all the people a few days ago telling me “No way Georgiev gets over 2 million” lol

Right? I feel vindicated

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I’ll be taking no further questions thank you