Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXVII

[Thirty One]

Eklund says something may be up with the Flyers. Am I allowed to say that? That's the one team where I trust he has connections.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Well, Calgary is still a possibility --- but the Rangers want to/have to know what the costs of Strome and ADA are. I feel like any progress with Calgary would likely only happen after that's decided. ADA is now off the table there, so you're looking at something possibly based around Buch. At this point I think you'd be looking at Monahan more than Lindholm as an option both sides might agree upon.

I'd say there are some concerns on both sides - the Rangers about a post-Buchnevich RW landscape, and the Flames about a post-Monahan C landscape.

Strome at this point I suspect might be more likely to be walked away from than traded.

Dunn's price is going to be much higher than what's listed above.

Granlund remains a possibility --- but that's tied to the Rangers parting ways with Strome.

Thats unfortunate but I hope they can figure something out

 

[DutchShamrock]

the reason the term was an issue was for potential blocking of players.

You are making that inference. Gorton could have several reasons for not going more than 2 years. His body has taken a beating and odds are he hits a wall by then. It could be that 3 years puts us at the end of several entry level contracts.

I just don't see either guy as blocking anyone. I think Johnson is a safety net for a huge question mark. Miller isn't just young, he has limited experience as a defender. Athletic ability can only take you so far and it's likely a year in Hartford is the best thing for his development.

If someone earns a spot, Johnson can be benched, or buried without penalty. Smith can be shifted anywhere.

These are non issues. Fast left for a better opportunity. Johnson isn't in anyone's way.

 

[gravey9]

Well, Calgary is still a possibility --- but the Rangers want to/have to know what the costs of Strome and ADA are. I feel like any progress with Calgary would likely only happen after that's decided. ADA is now off the table there, so you're looking at something possibly based around Buch. At this point I think you'd be looking at Monahan more than Lindholm as an option both sides might agree upon.

I'd say there are some concerns on both sides - the Rangers about a post-Buchnevich RW landscape, and the Flames about a post-Monahan C landscape.

Strome at this point I suspect might be more likely to be walked away from than traded.

Dunn's price is going to be much higher than what's listed above.

Granlund remains a possibility --- but that's tied to the Rangers parting ways with Strome.

Is Buch/Monahan worth it? I think I'd rather ride it out with Buch. And wait for a better top 6 C option to pop up down the road.

 

[Fitzy]

Monahan may be vanilla but he's a perpetual 60+ point player so I'm unclear why we are turning the nose up at him.

Sure he isn't going to be a do-everything center like a Derek Stepan but if we develop a solid defensive 3C that's not a major issue. If Strome goes from 33 points to 60 with Panarin I could easily see Monahan potting 80 consistently. Just need someone more defensively responsible at RW on that line.

Only issue for me is he's got just the three years left.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Monahan may be vanilla but he's a perpetual 60+ point player so I'm unclear why we are turning the nose up at him.

Sure he isn't going to be a do-everything center like a Derek Stepan but if we develop a solid defensive 3C that's not a major issue. If Strome goes from 33 points to 60 with Panarin I could easily see Monahan potting 80 consistently. Just need someone more defensively responsible at RW on that line.

Only issue for me is he's got just the three years left.

Monahan would be an excellent 2C behind Mika.

 

[pld459666]

yeah but a lot of people (including the Rangers) played it off as competitiveness but obviously BS in hindsight. Good on you for seeing through that BS. I was optimistic but it was weird when it happened.

I was pissed immediately after he did that.

Disrespectful little shit.

How many teams would have loved to have traded places. Yeah, I get it, no one is happy losing games. But there were a tournament full of kids that would have LOVED to have been part of a team COMPETING for the Goal Medal.

It showed me NOTHING of character.

All of that said, I think he could have been a real good piece here had he stayed, but after the most recent tweet, he can go f*** himself.

I hope the Cuylle pick outperforms this prick.

Douchebag.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

If Calgary isn't willing to move Lindholm anymore Rangers should just move on

No interest in Monahan

And who would have guessed the team has a more substantial disdain for Strome than we do here. Funny how that situation looks to be falling apart quickly

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Eklund says something may be up with the Flyers. Am I allowed to say that? That's the one team where I trust he has connections.

Something up with the Rangers/Flyers or just the Flyers? lol

 

[Thirty One]

Something up with the Rangers/Flyers or just the Flyers? lol

Just the Flyers.

 

[True Blue]

Yes. Last season it was. This season Kakko and Lafreniere can hopefully pick some of that load up. All I am saying is Strome (if he stays) is. The best option to center Lafreniere. The rest is putting the the. Puzzle together.

Why would it be any different this season?

That is an awful lot to ask of a rookie and a 19 year old sophomore. Strome remains an easy option to center the team's best. It worked. As they are trying to compete for the playoffs, I am reasonably sure that Quinn would want to deploy essentially two top lines. I do not think that they are looking to piece the puzzle together. I am sure that Chytil well get looks there in camp, but he would need to unseat the incumbent.

 

[Machinehead]

Monahan is just another Strome. He's good with Gaudreau like Strome is with Panarin.

I'm very tempted by looking at Lafreniere at center.

 

[Fitzy]

The only way I see to balance the lines with offensive and defensive forwards(And kids with veterans) is to move Kreider to the right.

But then you kind of have to move Gauthier to the left to get top 9 minutes and Kakko gets stuck on the 3rd line.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Any more traction on potential playing ADA on the left?

 

[Machinehead]

The only way I see to balance the lines with offensive and defensive forwards(And kids with veterans) is to move Kreider to the right.

But then you kind of have to move Gauthier to the left to get top 9 minutes and Kakko gets stuck on the 3rd line.

Wouldn't that make it Kreider 1 and Kakko 2?

Who am I missing?

 

[Edge]

If Calgary isn't willing to move Lindholm anymore Rangers should just move on

No interest in Monahan

And who would have guessed the team has a more substantial disdain for Strome than we do here. Funny how that situation looks to be falling apart quickly

I don't think is disdain so much as cost.

If you think a player might be available for free in a week, you're less inclined to move assets for him. Additionally, you might be okay at $4m ot even $4.25m, but less comfortable with that number approaching 5.

If Strome was signed for another season on his expiring deal, he'd likely have been moved by now.

 

[Fitzy]

Wouldn't that make it Kreider 1 and Kakko 2?

Who am I missing?

In my head I had it

Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Buch
Panarin_Strome-Kreider
Gauthier-Chytil-Kakko

 

[Edge]

Any more traction on potential playing ADA on the left?

Still doesn't appear to be a long-term preference for ADA.

 

[Leetch3]

Any more traction on potential playing ADA on the left?

I really don't think you will see much traction either way on that until training camp unless we make a trade for a top 4 LD....if we get a good LD then you would know he's not moving to the left. if the blueline looks the same then even if they plan to try it, you need to wait to see if it works.

 

[Machinehead]

In my head I had it

Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Buch
Panarin_Strome-Kreider
Gauthier-Chytil-Kakko

Oh I blanked on Buchnevich. My bad.

 

[Edge]

If Calgary isn't willing to move Lindholm anymore Rangers should just move on

No interest in Monahan

And who would have guessed the team has a more substantial disdain for Strome than we do here. Funny how that situation looks to be falling apart quickly

I'm fine with Monahan as a second line center.

I think there's a substantial gap there between Strome and Monahan and I don't think the whole "they're the same player" would gain much traction anywhere beyond this board.

Does he benefit from playing with Gadreau? Sure, though I think he delivers more with superior players than Strome does, stylistically fits better, and has significantly more track record under his belt than Strome.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I don't think is disdain so much as cost.

If you think a player might be available for free in a week, you're less inclined to move assets for him. Additionally, you might be okay at $4m ot even $4.25m, but less comfortable with that number approaching 5.

If Strome was signed for another season on his expiring deal, he'd likely have been moved by now.

My read on the Strome situation is they’re hoping the arbitrator settles on a deal high enough so the team can walk away, and when Strome can’t find a team to give him the deal he wants, come back to the Rangers lower price they offered in arbitration

And then he’s shipped off the first chance they get at the deadline

 

[Machinehead]

If Lafreniere is as advertised, that's an excellent top 6.

If we get a little more out of Chytil and a lot more out of Kakko (which I don't think is beyond the beyond), that's an excellent top 9.

I'm a believer in Gauthier although I think it'll be Lemieux. I think this team sees Lemieux as a middle six player.

 

[Edge]

My read on the Strome situation is they’re hoping the arbitrator settles on a deal high enough so the team can walk away, and when Strome can’t find a team to give him the deal he wants, come back to the Rangers lower price they offered in arbitration

And then he’s shipped off the first chance they get at the deadline

If we're looking at a cost-effective/killing time type of outcome, you're probably not far off at all.

 

[HonestGabe]

If Lafreniere is as advertised, that's an excellent top 6.

If we get a little more out of Chytil and a lot more out of Kakko (which I don't think is beyond the beyond), that's an excellent top 9.

I'm a believer in Gauthier although I think it'll be Lemieux. I think this team sees Lemieux as a middle six player.

Which, to be honest, I don't think is out of the realm of possibility. For now, he's better suited on the fourth line. But perhaps he takes a step forward defensively and stabilizes the 3rd line with his physicality and board play.

That would be a great outcome.