Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXVI

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if he goes to arbitration, can’t we just say no and lose him for nothing? He also knows the risk going to arbitration. He won’t hit this seasons numbers ever again and risk a bad market for him this offseason.
I think unless the award is for more than 4.6 million, we cannot walk. If between 4-4.6, he'll be overpaid and we'll be stuck with it. If more than 4.6, we can walk and we've lost an asset for nothing. So the only way we win is if the award is under 4 million. Threading a needle.
 
If a player has a modified NTC, that has no bearing on the Expansion Draft, does it? Would it need specific verbiage?

Correct, NTCs have no bearing and need to be protected or Seattle can pick that player; NMCs must be protected unless the player chooses to waive it
 
if he goes to arbitration, can’t we just say no and lose him for nothing? He also knows the risk going to arbitration. He won’t hit this seasons numbers ever again and risk a bad market for him this offseason.

It's not like there's anyone markedly better than him in the UFA market. Even if he goes to arbitration, just sign him for 1 year at the arbiter's decided salary and move on. If we make the playoffs, great - if we don't, move him at the deadline. I mean, SOMEONE has to play 2C. This is of course, assuming the team isn't trading someone like ADA for a 2C.
 
I think it was fed to him to ask but to put the option out there for trade leverage. they don't want it out there that we have to move someone on the right side...they might try it if no one gets moved but I think thats the motivation right now
We all know Larry will shill for FO, but I dont think Vince has achieved that status yet.
 
I think unless the award is for more than 4.6 million, we cannot walk. If between 4-4.6, he'll be overpaid and we'll be stuck with it. If more than 4.6, we can walk and we've lost an asset for nothing. So the only way we win is if the award is under 4 million. Threading a needle.

If he gets 4.5M, it’s one year. We’ll be fine. Let him go to arbitration. He may get less. He won’t get significantly more, that’s almost certain. We’re not going to be screwed if we’re stuck with Strome for a year at 4.5M.
 
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It's not like there's anyone markedly better than him in the UFA market. Even if he goes to arbitration, just sign him for 1 year at the arbiter's decided salary and move on. If we make the playoffs, great - if we don't, move him at the deadline. I mean, SOMEONE has to play 2C. This is of course, assuming the team isn't trading someone like ADA for a 2C.

i wouldn’t mind throwing chytil in the deep end even though some ppl on this board would consider that rushing him. But agreed he’d be easy trade bait by the deadline if he plays with Panarin again
 
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I think unless the award is for more than 4.6 million, we cannot walk. If between 4-4.6, he'll be overpaid and we'll be stuck with it. If more than 4.6, we can walk and we've lost an asset for nothing. So the only way we win is if the award is under 4 million. Threading a needle.
If he gets 4.5 for one year is that bad?
Do we not have enough cap money to do that and still add a depth forward and d?
 
I see Wennberg off the face of the earth since his 59 point season but he's only 26. Was that season a fluke? Can he be a second line center?
 
If he gets 4.5M, it’s one year. We’ll be fine. Let him go to arbitration. He may get less. He won’t get significantly more, that’s almost certain. We’re not going to be screwed if we’re stuck with Strome for a year at 4.5M.
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Adding to TB's problems.. besides the cap..

They have Hedman, McDonagh, Sergachev, Cernak and their top prospect Foote. They may go 4-4. Still exposing a nice asset on Defense.
 
If he gets 4.5M, it’s one year. We’ll be fine. Let him go to arbitration. He may get less. He won’t get significantly more, that’s almost certain. We’re not going to be screwed if we’re stuck with Strome for a year at 4.5M.
If he gets 4.5 for one year is that bad?
Do we not have enough cap money to do that and still add a depth forward and d?
ICYMI:

https://nypost.com/2020/10/06/why-the-rangers-dont-have-as-much-cap-space-as-it-seems/
 
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It's not like there's anyone markedly better than him in the UFA market. Even if he goes to arbitration, just sign him for 1 year at the arbiter's decided salary and move on. If we make the playoffs, great - if we don't, move him at the deadline. I mean, SOMEONE has to play 2C. This is of course, assuming the team isn't trading someone like ADA for a 2C.
If you take Strome's last season out of the mix, yes there are some competitive options out there who may well match or exceed Strome's output if next to Panarin.
 
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If you take Strome's last season out oof the mix, yes there are some competitive options out there who may well match or exceed Strome's output if next to Panarin.

Not challenging you - genuinely asking. Who do you see as that potential guy? From my POV there's Granlund who will probably have a higher cap hit than Strome, Turris who is a head case, Galchenyuk who is another head case and Wennberg who lots of teams seem to be interested in and isn't exactly an offensive dynamo.
 
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Not challenging you - genuinely asking. Who do you see as that potential guy? From my POV there's Granlund who will probably have a higher cap hit than Strome, Turris who is a head case, Galchenyuk who is another head case and Wennberg who lots of teams seem to be interested in and isn't exactly an offensive dynamo.
It’s speculative, but sure I think Granlund would stand a chance, Wennberg, Soderberg, maybe Wallmark, AA, Koivu, Haula... more importantly, Chytil. All likely for less than 4 million.
 
I don’t get the Strome concern. We stand firm on the QO. He’s not gonna leave if we say no to $5M or whatever he wants. He’s not dumb. He knows if he stays another year, he’ll have another “great” season alongside Panarin thus increasing his stock.

that’s the thing. We don’t want him
 
Letting Strome walk to bank on Chytil seems like a mistake. Both for the team’s chances this year and Chytil’s development.

Don’t see better options than Strome out there for equivalent term. He seems like the perfect 1 year stopgap to me. I don’t get it.
You don’t have to. There are a lot of insurance options out there for cheaper than Strome.
 
Wenneberg drafted by JD, played next to Panarin for his 59 pt season. If he comes in at 3.5 or so, Do it, let him and Chytil battle it out, trade Strome for a LD or pick. Makes the Cap happy as well

This is my perspective.
 
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