Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXV

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I don’t want Glass since his body is basically made out of it.

Krebs+ another piece+ salary dump
Glass is a superior prospect than Krebs. But i don't think either are likely to be traded. Vegas has horrible center depth and they need these guys to pan out to fill those gaps.
 
McNabb is almost a pure salary throw in this deal. The fact that he plays LD and isn’t terrible benefits Vegas because the Rangers obviously need help there

Tuch is a significantly better player than McNabb and will not/should not be considered a salary throw in by Vegas

They’re not getting a blue chip prospect + a top 6 forward in his prime for Tony. I know people don’t want to hear but that’s just not happening

I know Tuch isn't a throw in. But in order for them to make the salary work they will need to send back about the same that ADA is going to likely be making. McNabb isn't enough so there has to be another salary coming back.

And that is why I said there was a plus on our side as well. I'm really having trouble thinking of what a fair plus is but it is going to be something decent.
 
They will attach salary to any deal.

Yet they are already over the cap, so they would need to clear the overage, and then clear more to bring in any player who had a higher cap hit than was incoming.

At that point how do the Rangers have the cap space to adsorb that much more coming back to them than outgoing considering they have only 8F (9F if we count Laf), 4D and 1G signed so far plus need to be ~4M under the cap due to bonus cushion overage?
 
AG is better than lots of guys on that list.

Looking down the barrel of a condensed schedule with less games, going dumpster diving for a goalie could very well sink you next season.
definitely. Roll with Igor and Georgie going forward and I feel very confident. Lose Georgie and sign another Pavelec-level backup and we're in trouble.
 
for those saying that tony wont fetch a top prospect ++ did you forget that he finished 5th in points for a defensemen at 24 years old? dont be stupid people

He also an RFA due for a big contract and the perception around the league is that he's one-dimensional.

I feel like the return offers are going to be crappy which is one of many reasons i'm against trading him.
 
Not sure what you were watching, but Kakko was probably our best forward during the play-ins despite his point total.

Watched just like everyone else...same lackluster player we saw all D+1 season...I know folks want to get super excited for a #2 pick, but just not seeing it (and question what you're seeing as well.)
 
As much as I would love to see him on Broadway, you're dreaming. Vegas isn't moving Theodore. He's the one guy on that team that is irreplaceable. ADA's value is not equal to Theodore & Vegas is certainly not adding Glass or Krebs in that scenario.
I'm not dreaming. I just dont think we should accept less than market value for ADA, who you clearly underrate. If they want a PPQB so badly and won't give up assets, they can sign Alex for twice as much and do cap gymnastics to get compliant.
 
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Georgiev may end up being cheaper then a lot of these UFA goalies. Teams up against the cap may not mind giving up futures for a couple years of Georgie. Plus he is a lot younger.

true but I think what you’ll see a lot of this off-season is teams trying to secure shorter deals. With all the uncertainty moving forward, teams just aren’t going to want to commit to longer term acquisitions as easily as normal. A 1 year deal on a veteran goalie gives them that flexibility.
 
The insiders here have been telling people for a week that fans are overvaluing Tony comparatively to the league

People might want to brace themselves when he gets moved for what they deem an "underwhelming" return
 
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That's because you have no clue what you are watching in a game or with a player. Kakko the last 15 games was no longer getting pushed off the puck. That's just in a little time with a real weight program. So glad we have clowns in our fan base that write off 18 year old kids.

Biased much? lol

Oh, his last 15 GP--including the play-in: 2 G, 2 A...damn, what was I missing? And if you don't include the play-in, wow STILL the same point totals...regardless of him 'not getting pushed off the puck' which he CLEARLY did throughout the entire regular season--was expecting much much more. You should too.
 
Glass is a superior prospect than Krebs. But i don't think either are likely to be traded. Vegas has horrible center depth and they need these guys to pan out to fill those gaps.

Glass has had a bazillion injuries. He can't stay on the ice.

If Vegas wants to make a big addition via trade, they're not going to get him for salary dumps and draft picks.
 
Watched just like everyone else...same lackluster player we saw all D+1 season...I know folks want to get super excited for a #2 pick, but just not seeing it (and question what you're seeing as well.)
The difference between the regular season and play-ins was night and day. He was faster, stronger, and more confident.

Not sure why his draft spot Is relevant when discussing the difference with his play.
 
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The insiders here have been telling people for a week that fans are overvaluing Tony comparatively to the league

People might want to brace themselves when he gets moved for what they deem an "underwhelming" return

The thing about Tony is that I feel like his demands are going to impact his value way more now than ever.

One of the reasons the Rangers would trade him now is if they understood him to be unreasonable with his demands for a long term deal* If that's the case, he's not going to have a ton of suitors once they get wind of it. It's bad timing to want a huge deal right now. Teams just aren't going to splash cash wildly with so much unknown IMO.

* - you can say "oh he has no leverage" but I realy don't think the Rangers want to drag this out year by year until FA with him. I get the sense from what's come out he either is here long term, or traded to fill a need.
 
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MAJOR? Like 0 points?

Wish I saw what folks saw in Kakko in that play-in; was just more of the same lacklust play we saw the whole season--and would not lose a wink of sleep if he was centerpiece in an Eichel deal...
Give the kid a chance he definitely looked better as the season progressed.
Will like to see him get full pp time and play in the top 6 which should happen this year.
 
Playing with snarl and dropping the gloves are two entirely different things.

This is true, i'm not advocating for him to be picking fights. Just saying fans shouldn't be surprised if he has to answer the bell for the game he has sometimes shown to play. Ovie and Svech aren't fighters either, doesn't mean they don't sometimes have to. Hell, players jump other players for CLEANLY hitting a teammate these days.
 
I'm not dreaming. I just dont think we should accept less than market value for ADA, who you clearly underrate. If they want a PPQB so badly and won't give up assets, they can sign Alex for twice as much and do cap gymnastics to get compliant.

I don't think I'm underrating ADA, but I think your underrating Theodore's value to Vegas. Regardless, in this hypothetical scenario, let's say their value is equal. A one for one swap doesn't improve the Knights..it actually weakens them. Their biggest need is a defenseman who can actually play defense & clear the crease. Vegas might need/want a PPQB, but there's no chance in hell Theodore is moved for one. If that's the ask from the Rangers, they politely say thanks but no thanks & turn their attention to Dumba.(barf).

I do agree that signing Pietrangelo will cripple them for years to come. As much as they need him, it just doesn't seem realistic or prudent.
 
He also an RFA due for a big contract and the perception around the league is that he's one-dimensional.

I feel like the return offers are going to be crappy which is one of many reasons i'm against trading him.
the perception around these forums are hes one-dimensional, people hate on him regardless of any strides hes made on defense

also id like to point out that if tony is paired with a proper defensemen hes not completely inept in his own end
 
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