Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXIX

[Avery16]

That second year is probably to expose him in the Expansion draft for Seattle.

He certainly will be exposed, but I believe we already met the exposure requirements. He’ll almost certainly go unclaimed.

 

[Kovalev27]

I can’t stand this guy hope he does go to Seattle

 

[East Coast Bias]

Exactly. I don't think anyone believes he is the long term answer for this team, but 2 years or less...hes fine.

We all talk about Strome being polarizing here. About whether he's riding Panarin's coat tails or a solid player on his own.

But the debate varies on importance depending on term.

At 5 years he becomes a disaster if he can't handle his own line.

At 2 years, it's fine. He plays one season at 2C. If guys step up and he's surplus, you trade him next offseason.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

What am I back tracking on? All I said was that there was a possibility the Rangers could walk away... meaning there was a possibility they could sign him. What is hard about this for you? You must really need this message board in your life to spin everything into how right you are. It really is sad. I have also said that I thought the Rangers submission for arbitration would have been $3.85 AAV, higher than what they actually submitted, meaning I acknowledged that a settlement would definitely be in the $4-$4.75 range.

But hey continue to pat yourself on the back, someone’s gotta do it for ya.

You said "$4.5 or more and I am walking away from Strome. You can better spend that money elsewhere and even save some possibly."

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I can’t stand this guy hope he does go to Seattle

The most despised (nearly) 60-point guy we ever had? Haha

 

[NYR Viper]

That second year is probably to expose him in the Expansion draft for Seattle.

THIS. I actually like the 2 year deal and the Rangers probably paid him slightly more to get that 2nd year on purpose

 

[RGY]

Certainly have changed your tone

$4, $4.25 to $4.5 major difference there...

And I still believe Strome wouldnt get $4.5 on the open market right now. But it doesnt matter, we didnt get to an arbitration award for them to walk away from. I still believe that money could have better been spent on other players. They decided to extend him. It isnt the end of the world. As others have mentioned, he is a candidate to be exposed to Seattle. They could also move him.

Keep patting yourself on the back.

 

[Avery16]

How much cap space do we have remaining?

According to capfriendly, approx < 2.5m

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Strome does seem like someone that Seattle would take in the expansion draft

 

[SA16]

Strome does seem like someone that Seattle would take in the expansion draft

I doubt they are going to take someone 1 year away from UFA. And if he produces this year the Rangers shouldn't expose him as they could get something in a trade. If he doesn't produce then Seattle will take him. If he performs at an average rate then they can expose him and Seattle probably wouldn't take him with the contract.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

According to capfriendly, approx < 2.5m

So enough for Lemieux, but not much else

 

[Avery16]

THIS. I actually like the 2 year deal and the Rangers probably paid him slightly more to get that 2nd year on purpose

Why would you pay 4.5 million to meet an exposure requirement that you could pay < 1m to meet? This has nothing to do with the expansion draft.

 

[True Blue]

It is now seems pretty unlikely that we sign a Haula / Granlund / Soderberg, unless any of them are willing to go something like 2m.

Where are you planning on playing them

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I doubt they are going to take someone 1 year away from UFA.

If he puts up (nearly) 60 points again, they may?

 

[NYR Viper]

I find it hilarious we are all splitting hairs over Strome getting $250k or $500k more than some would have liked, meanwhile, Hank, Shattenkirk, Girardi and Spooner are killing just a shade under $13m in cap space from buyouts.

 

[Avery16]

Strome does seem like someone that Seattle would take in the expansion draft

Not unless claiming him is a package deal with Panarin.

 

[RGY]

THIS. I actually like the 2 year deal and the Rangers probably paid him slightly more to get that 2nd year on purpose

Very good point. No restrictions. He can be exposed. A 1 year deal might have been $4-$4.25. An arbitrator awarding $4.5 for 1 year and maybe the Rangers would have walked away from it. Because for one year at that salary there isnt good value there for how they maneuver for this upcoming year’s roster. But having that 2nd year can provide exposure to Seattle for a guy you think you can live without.

 

[NYR Viper]

Seattle would take Strome for the same reason the Rangers would prefer to trade him. Seattle could select him and trade him to help build their farm system. If he plays well again there will be opportunities for a trade.

 

[Avery16]

I find it hilarious we are all splitting hairs over Strome getting $250k or $500k more than some would have liked, meanwhile, Hank, Shattenkirk, Girardi and Spooner are killing just a shade under $13m in cap space from buyouts.

Today's Hank, Shattenkirk, Girardi and Spooner is tomorrow's Strome unless we can find cap flexibility elsewhere.

 

[SA16]

If he puts up (nearly) 60 points again, they may?

If he puts up 60 points again then why would they expose him rather then trade him? Back to back ~60 points and someone would give something for him. The only way he gets exposed is if he is a bad year at which point they won't take him. Or if he has a decent year offensively like 40-50 point range (which is what I'd expect) and then they also likely wouldn't take him with just the one year left.

 

[Avery16]

Seattle would take Strome for the same reason the Rangers would prefer to trade him. Seattle could select him and trade him to help build their farm system. If he plays well again there will be opportunities for a trade.

Why would they do that instead of selecting one of our prospects that could help that farm system directly?

 

[RGY]

Where are you planning on playing them

3rd or 4th line RW. And Center insurance for when Howden continues to fail at the position. OR if Chytil is better suited on the wing. But really hoping Chytil can find his way at Center

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

If he puts up 60 points again then why would they expose him rather then trade him? Back to back ~60 points and someone would give something for him.

Fair enough

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Not that we need the space, but maybe we see Smith traded soon just to give us some breathing room cap-wise?

 

[True Blue]

Strome handled the Rangers. They wanted to move him (or at least very actively explored it). They clearly didn’t want to give him this kind of money. He wouldn’t cave on lower offers, put in a high arbitration request and on the morning of the case, the Rangers knew there was a possibility he’d get awarded an even higher number, and while they could walk away, they would have a hole to fill, so the Rangers caved. Well played by Strome’s side.

Disagree. That is more than a fair price and the two years is about perfect from the team's perspective. If Chytil shows he is ready, then Strome can go to 3C or wing. And gives them a bit more time to see if indeed Chytil can take steps forward to be that players.

Of course they explored moving him. Why would they not? They also explored trading DeAngelo and then got him signed to a similar two year deal. I think that the money that both players got were in the wheelhouse of what Gorton and JD were willing to spend. In the end, they got the players they wanted at the price that they wanted at. With Strome, they started very low and he started high. As always, the truth is in the middle. Which is where they finally signed him.

As I said before, sometimes you need to bring a present to Mr or Mrs Right Now to keep something in the bank until Mr or Mrs Right shows up. Or in Strome's case, Mr. Stop Gap.