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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXIX

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nyr2k2 said:
Low-balling is all part of the game, though. Even if the Rangers think he's truly worth $4.25M or whatever they can't come in at that number.
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”Listen, if we start from a place of reasonable, and they start from a place of crazy, when we settle, we'll be somewhere between reasonable and crazy.”
 
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I’ll be interested to see if they settle prior or the Rangers bite the bullet and ride it out

it’s in their best interest to ride it out because while Strome may find some team to offer more than 3.6, they probably won’t be offering him a better short term situation that allows him to potentially get paid next off season
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
I’ll be interested to see if they settle prior or the Rangers bite the bullet and ride it out

it’s in their best interest to ride it out because while Strome may find some team to offer more than 3.6, they probably won’t be offering him a better short term situation that allows him to potentially get paid next off season
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This x 1000.

So let him go test the market, which is volatile right now. See what he can get. We can take the $4 million for him and possibly turn that into 2 very useful, quality players. Haula and Granlund. Or one of many other vets that will come on the cheap. Colin Wilson would make us a little heavier to play against. Boyle/Brassard would give us depth while being Center insurance should kids fail. So let Strome go to bat and see what he things he can get.
 
That's a good number for Strome. A one year deal is ideal imo. I think they can come to terms on a deal prior to the case, but I wouldn't mind if it goes to the arbiter. There's no way he should get more than Zibs, and if you split something close to the difference on a one year deal, you get to see if Strome legitimately righted the ship and is living up to his draft pedigree or it it was a one year fluke. I definitely think he is a need on the team, but the question in my mind is that, if you view next year as a year to finalize the next core, then both the team and the player are better off on a one year deal.

We don't know what free agency is going to look like after this year. For Strome, if he has another great season he is a top UFA RS Center who is going to command a premium. Strome's a pro and I'm sure he gets it. If it works out, and two years is less of a fluke then one, he can still re-up if both parties feel the fit is a good one going forward.

For the Rangers you get to see how you internal options develop, and perhaps make an upgrade if needed. Realistically speaking, with the cap the way it is, alongside the Rangers' situation, next off-season is when you can start to make moves towards cracking the window open. The team is too young to the point where making the playoffs would be a win. Usually teams this young and inexperienced are lottery bound.
 
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I'm glad the Rangers set their offer low. If Strome walks back for the 3.6 x 1, it won't be the end of the world
 
I wonder if the Rangers would rather him come in at $4.6 than 4.4. Could make for the nicest arbitration hearing ever.
 
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thats an interesting question. Can the rangers say to the arbitrator that if he's going to go over 4, to make the award 4.6? I dont think strome's camp would be upset because they get a quick shot at ufa a year early even if its a crap market.
 
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thats an interesting question. Can the rangers say to the arbitrator that if he's going to go over 4, to make the award 4.6? I dont think strome's camp would be upset because they get a quick shot at ufa a year early even if its a crap market.
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I don't think they can dictate the award come in over a certain figure, but they could tank the hearing to push it up.
 
Strome's agent is no dummy. He knows this award will be for more than what Strome could get as a UFA. There aren't many teams that would give Strome our offer of 3.6.
 
I think there could be a legit chance that the arbitrator awards @ just below the walkaway number. At 4.5 I keep Strome and dont think too much on it after that.
 
This seems odd. I cant imagine the Rangers are unwilling to go to 4 or 4.25 for 1 or 2 years. Strome must not be willing to go under 5 maybe?
 
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bobbop said:
I’m fairly sure he has a take it or leave it offer from the Rangers. I doubt it is $4.65. I don’t think he has the comparables to justify that number.
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It's tough to find a guy we can really compare Strome to but Brassard comes to mind.

- High draft pick
- Underwhelming career until he came to the Rangers
- Had sort of a resurgence after the trade
- 1 RFA year left at age 26 (July 1st)
- Signed a contract going from 5.6 CH% to 7.25 CH%

I haven't really compared their underlying numbers so forgive me, but if we go by this comparison, and assume 7.25% for Strome, that would come down to 5.9m

I doubt he gets that, but it just goes to show you that what Strome is asking for isn't that crazy assuming it's a long-term deal.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
It's tough to find a guy we can really compare Strome to but Brassard comes to mind.

- High draft pick
- Underwhelming career until he came to the Rangers
- Had sort of a resurgence after the trade
- 1 RFA year left at age 26 (July 1st)
- Signed a contract going from 5.6 CH% to 7.25 CH%

I haven't really compared their underlying numbers so forgive me, but if we go by this comparison, and assume 7.25% for Strome, that would come down to 5.9m

I doubt he gets that, but it just goes to show you that what Strome is asking for isn't that crazy assuming it's a long-term deal.
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It’s a good comparable, but Panarin distorts it.

I’m of the belief that the 2 playing together help each other, Strome benefitting more from it than Panarin, but there’s obvious chemistry between the two.

The question is where does the arbitrator draw the line with that and say that as much as Strome has benefited from Panarin, Panarin has also put up career highs playing with Strome?

I know that’s going to be unpopular line of thought and that’s fine, but realistically speaking, an independent arbitrator is going to break down all angles and more than likely, that will be one of them.
 
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Strome is a lot closer to a 3.6M player than a 5.7M, that’s for sure.

And whoever said he likely wouldn’t get better than 3.6M if he were suddenly a UFA tomorrow is correct I’d imagine. At this stage of the game with several guys still unsigned and no cap to go around, no one is throwing Strome a 4M contract.

It’ll be interesting to see how this goes.
 
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