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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXII

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Rangeri said:
People also tend to forget that we are talking about New York Rangers here. We always have advantage when we are talking about free agents. Of course you have to pay them, but so what? We also have the money to do so. So I'm really not worried about 2c position right now, there will be numerous opportunities to get better at that in the near future.

Also our assets are not going to lose value in one year, more likely they are going to increase it.
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Agents are alrady talking about this with their clients, but not in the same way you mentioned. Expectation is that some players are NOT going to want to come to certain cities to play. The allure is not what it was. If this pandemic ends that may change. But for the now, don't expect that.
 
jas said:
Yeah, but he's not the perfect 2C candidate, so we should wait until the ideal one comes along.
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Yeah, I heard that but there's likely no perfect deal for an imperfect player. If the Rangers don't move him and his deal is arbitrated my guess is the Rangers will opt for two years--that will give them about a year and two or three months to deal him and Nils will be here by then (hopefully) and move right into his place. If it's a year arbitration deal we'll have to act faster.
 
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UAGoalieGuy said:
2 days to the draft where the trades at?!
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John Shannon said it would be much harder than people think since cash more than ever has become an issue for many teams. I hope he’s wrong and would love to see some deals be done (except us for the most part)
 
kovazub94 said:
I think the pushback (and I’m somewhat agree) against Monahan is not because whether or by how much he is better than Strome, but it’s because of how much a less desirable return he is for ADA COMPARED to Lindholm. Everything that we all like about Lindholm as a player whether it on offense or defense or his salary or the length of his contract, EVERYTHING is less desirable when it comes to Monahan. I personally can’t automatically assume that playing with Panarin instead of Gaudreau will translate into more production because chemistry is a fizzle thing. Then we almost salivate looking at Lindholm contract and term, and wince a bit looking at about $6.5m for Monahan and knowing that in only 3 more years he’d want an increase.

Without a gun to my head I’d rather keep Strome and ADA (and Buchnevich too) for another year and wait for Lindholm-like opportunity to come along instead of pulling a trigger on Monahan now.
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I think the problem is Lindholm's a better player than DeAngelo and I think that's exactly how the Flames look at it. Lindholm doesn't really have holes in his game. He's good at everything. But anyway I was talking to a Flames fan recently and he told me that Treliving has been quoted as saying that he would love to clone Lindholm into 18 different players and considers him his best forward. Personally I think we win a DeAngelo/Monahan deal because we fill a need and the hole we open up is only temporary because we already have a player ready to fill it. One way or the other eventually DeAngelo will be the odd man out though.

Monahan for the most part has been a consistent producer. Not saying he doesn't slump now and again but he's usually good for 60 or 60+ points a season anyway. He's also a much better finisher than Strome and if he's playing with Panarin--a line driving playmaker it will probably really play to his strengths. We also move Strome then for other assets.
 
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Brooklyn Rangers Fan said:
I hate to tell you, but it’s 3... :)
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Not that stuff can’t happen on the weekends, but it makes me suspect that if anything is coming, a lot of it is coming on Monday.

Which is just perfect, since I’m relatively sure I won’t have any cell service where I’m going to be in the mountains. Sunday afternoon through Tuesday evening. I’m going to get to the hotel I’m staying in Tuesday specifically for their WiFi and be deluged with hockey news. I look forward to it.
 
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eco's bones said:
I think the problem is Lindholm's a better player than DeAngelo and I think that's exactly how the Flames look at it. Lindholm doesn't really have holes in his game. He's good at everything. But anyway I was talking to a Flames fan recently and he told me that Treliving has been quoted as saying that he would love to clone Lindholm into 18 different players and considers him his best forward. Personally I think we win a DeAngelo/Monahan deal because we fill a need and the hole we open up is only temporary because we already have a player ready to fill it. One way or the other eventually DeAngelo will be the odd man out though.

Monahan for the most part has been a consistent producer. Not saying he doesn't slump now and again but he's usually good for 60 or 60+ points a season anyway. He's also a much better finisher than Strome and if he's playing with Panarin--a line driving playmaker it will probably really play to his strengths. We also move Strome then for other assets.
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I think the problem people have with Monahan is we were told we needed to fill our deficiencies. A 2C who could take defensive matchups, PK, win faceoffs, etc. and Monahan is not that. Is he an upgrade over Strome? Yes, but people seem to be looking for something that is not available right now like a Sean Couturier type of player. We were also told the Rangers are not looking for a Nylander type, who had previously been the wet dream of the board and Monahan seems to be more of that mold. Are the Rangers "settling" for Monahan because they want to get Hanafin in the package? Maybe, but it seems like the Rangers are saying lets go and get better right now rather than wait for the perfect player who may never be available.

I guess the question is does this have to happen this off-season with Lundkvist signed for the SHL year? I might have missed this but who takes ADA's spot if he does get traded, 1 year stopgap FA?
 
BroadwayHustle said:
I think the problem people have with Monahan is we were told we needed to fill our deficiencies. A 2C who could take defensive matchups, PK, win faceoffs, etc. and Monahan is not that. Is he an upgrade over Strome? Yes, but people seem to be looking for something that is not available right now like a Sean Couturier type of player. We were also told the Rangers are not looking for a Nylander type, who had previously been the wet dream of the board and Monahan seems to be more of that mold. Are the Rangers "settling" for Monahan because they want to get Hanafin in the package? Maybe, but it seems like the Rangers are saying lets go and get better right now rather than wait for the perfect player who may never be available.

I guess the question is does this have to happen this off-season with Lundkvist signed for the SHL year? I might have missed this but who takes ADA's spot if he does get traded, 1 year stopgap FA?
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Won’t be hard to find a cheap ufa RD 3rd pair .....plus Lundkvist likely signs after his seasons done and steps into the depth chart

Please no Ceci or Schenn lol
 
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if the Rangers are trading with Vegas how abiut William Carrier? he is a good penalty killer and good physical forechecker and he'd be an upgrade on the 4th line
 
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BroadwayHustle said:
I think the problem people have with Monahan is we were told we needed to fill our deficiencies. A 2C who could take defensive matchups, PK, win faceoffs, etc. and Monahan is not that. Is he an upgrade over Strome? Yes, but people seem to be looking for something that is not available right now like a Sean Couturier type of player. We were also told the Rangers are not looking for a Nylander type, who had previously been the wet dream of the board and Monahan seems to be more of that mold. Are the Rangers "settling" for Monahan because they want to get Hanafin in the package? Maybe, but it seems like the Rangers are saying lets go and get better right now rather than wait for the perfect player who may never be available.

I guess the question is does this have to happen this off-season with Lundkvist signed for the SHL year? I might have missed this but who takes ADA's spot if he does get traded, 1 year stopgap FA?
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Smith can slide over to 3rd RD if need be.
Ease in Miller.
Maybe sign a cheap LD for a season or two if available. unless Hanafin comes in an AdA/ Buch
Trade.
Hanafin. Trouba
Lindgren. Fox
?/Miller. Smith.
Hajek
If no Trade for Hanafin
Hajek. Trouba
Lindgren Fox
UFA/Miller. Smith.
 
Cag29 said:
Smith can slide over to 3rd RD if need be.
Ease in Miller.
Maybe sign a cheap LD for a season or two if available. unless Hanafin comes in an AdA/ Buch
Trade.
Hanafin. Trouba
Lindgren. Fox
?/Miller. Smith.
Hajek
If no Trade for Hanafin
Hajek. Trouba
Lindgren Fox
UFA/Miller. Smith.
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I am completely fine with moving Smith to the right. Hajek and Miller on the left if we don't get Hanafin looks terrible. You are counting on Hajek to take huge strides and Miller to look comfortable.
 
Im all in if we trade tda
But for a strome look alike that scores maybe a couple more goals?
No thanks
We need defensive players
We have enough scoring
Im also not inclined to add another vet and their salary
I'd trade tda for a top prospect(preferred) or high draft pick
We need players playing on their ELCs and wont have to be protected from the expansion draft
 
BroadwayHustle said:
I am completely fine with moving Smith to the right. Hajek and Miller on the left if we don't get Hanafin looks terrible. You are counting on Hajek to take huge strides and Miller to look comfortable.
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They lol get good experience. We don’t know if Hartford is playing yet. This should be a development year.
 
Again, the Panarin line was used more in an offensive role anyways this year. As long as Zibanejad is here he will get the tougher match-ups. The lines that made it more difficult were the 3rd and 4th lines. I’m okay with Monahan with the understanding he would be riding shotgun to Panarin and they would skew towards the offensive zone starts. What this means is that Chytil and Howden, or whoever the 4C is, may need to skew more towards the defensive zone starts. Last year neither of those guys did that leaving all of that up to Zibanejad.

In saying that, if that’s the course they’re taking, they should supplement a couple of gritty veteran forwards for the lower lines who can ha duke and succeed in that type of role. Gauthier, Lafreniere, Chytil, Howden, Lemieux. None of those guys are going to be naturally great defensive players so it will be a work in progress.

Honestly, with the way the team is coming together, I’d be much more inclined to move Buch AND Strome, move Kreider to the right, and pick up a couple of veteran forwards. Say Larsson and Janmark.

Panarin-Monahan-Kaako
Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kreider
Janmark-Chytil-Gauthier
Howden-Larsson-Lemieux
 
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rangers1314 said:
This is not true. There are plenty of guys who want no part of playing in NYC.

Go ask Shane Doan.
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Shane Doan was one guy like 20 years ago. @Rangeri ’s assertion was very reasonable. The Rangers is a desirable landing spot for free agents, without a doubt.
 
Maybe Strome for the late Ottawa 1st?

Only if they get another C for Buch

Could sign a Dadonov for RW?
 
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