Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXII

[Crease]

Probably included 1OA and Kakko.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Probably included 1OA and Kakko.

ADA and Chytil isn’t enough?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

 

[Leetch3]

We don't have as much cap space as people seem to think...JD made mention of the performance bonus cushion and how rookie deals count more than people think...the preference seems to be to make sure that we don't have to carry cap space over to next year.

For the sake of argument, I'm going to assume that Hajek & Reunanen make the team to get us to 7 dmen (any replacement will be equal or more $$)...If you count the full cap hit including performance bonuses for Shesterkin, Fox, Kakko, Lafreniere, Lindgren, Chytil, Gauthier, Hajek and Reunanen...plus $13 mil in dead space from buyouts, that puts us at $71,177,299. If the goal is to stay under the bonus cushion (7.5%) limit of $87,612,500 that gives us just under $16.5 mil to spend.

$16.5 mil to resign or replace Strome, DeAngelo, Fast, Georgiev, Lemieux and Di Guiseppe to get to a 22-man roster (13 forwards, 7 dmen, 2 goalies).

Some guesses at the cost to resign them (or their replacements)

DeAngelo: 5.5
Strome: 4.5
Fast: 2.5
Georgiev: 1.5
Lemieux: 1.5
Di Guiseppe: 750k

I think those are conservative estimates (maybe on the low end for some) and that totals up to $16.25 mil...leaving us with less than $25k to work with to start the year...obviously we'd free up more space headed into the deadline as you know which bonuses are not a factor. And that is assuming that we don't trade for a 2C like Monahan who makes $6.35 mil.

We have the cap space to make things work. we aren't sitting on a crazy amount of space. Deals to bring players in that make any kind of $$ will require nearly equal $$ going out.

 

[Thirty One]

Vegas.

 

[mas0764]

Strome to Minnesota for 9 plz

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Good luck

 

[Leetch3]

Vegas.

if they buyout fleury that would become an option.

 

[Thirty One]

Strome to Minnesota for 9 plz

Rangers: Should we qualify Strome or nah
Wild: Top 10 pick?

 

[mas0764]

Rangers: Should we qualify Strome or nah
Wild: Top 10 pick?

Exactly

 

[Thirty One]

if they buyout fleury that would become an option.

I cannot see Fleury with Vegas next year after the shenanigans.

 

[bbny]

Strome to Minnesota for 9 plz

Minnesota Rangers

 

[Fitzy]

The last time I was livid about a front office decision was picking mcilrath. Losing strome for nothing wouldn’t quite get to that level of irritation, but it would be up there with the “don’t re sign stralman but sign dan Boyle” level of “derp” for management.

 

[JimmyG89]

The Strome news is interesting. I think they leaked to Brooks that if he doesn't come off his price, he won't be around. The question will be does Strome want to go to another team and possibly not have the same fit.

Every player is flawed, but Strome's warts really stick out. Bad offensive zone penalties. Lack of defensive awareness. Those are things that everyone sees and it's a big reason he has a bad image among fans. It's warranted, but his positives don't make up for it.

Who knows, but there could be something bigger they are working on and need to shed Strome's potential money to do it. I think it has more to do with the defense than anything. Spend to get that #1 LD. Pushes Lindgren down to the 2nd pair and let's K'Andre Miller or another young D to get their feet wet at the 3LD.

This also means that Chytil has to step up. Howden has to be more than a 4th line player. The young guys may get the shot and if they need to address the center position, they do it in season. Maybe they really like Barron at C, or one of the UDFA they signed. It's risky, similar to the 2018 plan which fell flat.

 

[Leetch3]

The Strome news is interesting. I think they leaked to Brooks that if he doesn't come off his price, he won't be around. The question will be does Strome want to go to another team and possibly not have the same fit.

Every player is flawed, but Strome's warts really stick out. Bad offensive zone penalties. Lack of defensive awareness. Those are things that everyone sees and it's a big reason he has a bad image among fans. It's warranted, but his positives don't make up for it.

Who knows, but there could be something bigger they are working on and need to shed Strome's potential money to do it. I think it has more to do with the defense than anything. Spend to get that #1 LD. Pushes Lindgren down to the 2nd pair and let's K'Andre Miller or another young D to get their feet wet at the 3LD.

This also means that Chytil has to step up. Howden has to be more than a 4th line player. The young guys may get the shot and if they need to address the center position, they do it in season. Maybe they really like Barron at C, or one of the UDFA they signed. It's risky, similar to the 2018 plan which fell flat.

its not much of a threat though...if the rangers don't qualify strome, he becomes a UFA a year sooner and can sign a big contract for more than the rangers are offering.

 

[GAGLine]

The last time I was livid about a front office decision was picking mcilrath. Losing strome for nothing wouldn’t quite get to that level of irritation, but it would be up there with the “don’t re sign stralman but sign dan Boyle” level of “derp” for management.

I have to think that Gorton has been talking to other teams about Strome. If there isn't a deal to move him, and Gorton has something else in the works that requires that cap space, I can see it. And remember, even if we don't qualify him, that doesn't mean we won't re-sign him. He'd just have to accept less than he might get in arbitration, unless there's another team out there willing to give him more.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

I'm imagining a round of musical chairs that somehow ends in us seeing Eric Staal: The Ranger: Part Two

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Or maybe they just didn't officially do it yet and don't have to technically until Tuesday? I'm not saying something isn't afoot, but Occam's razor would lead me to believe the former.

They've qualified everyone else...doesn't make sense to not do it at the same time unless there’s a reason for it.

 

[NYSPORTS]

The last time I was livid about a front office decision was picking mcilrath. Losing strome for nothing wouldn’t quite get to that level of irritation, but it would be up there with the “don’t re sign stralman but sign dan Boyle” level of “derp” for management.

could be the market is going to change so dramatically. Maybe something is in place while the demand for Strome is much lower than his asking price.

can only speculate while i think we’ll get clarity very soon.

 

[gravey9]

its not much of a threat though...if the rangers don't qualify strome, he becomes a UFA a year sooner and can sign a big contract for more than the rangers are offering.

I haven't read the Brooks article, but I would imagine if the Rangers wanted to bring back Strome, they would not want to do it for much more than his QO. Or even at his QO really...

The big thing the pundits are saying is that because of the flat cap and internal caps the "middle class" players are going to get squeezed a lot. Teams will have a hard time justifying paying the Ryan Stromes of the world more than 2.5m.

Most of the cap is going to go to the core players. But everyone else will get considerably less. The issue is, what happens to the middle class players like Strome who have qualifying offers in the 3-5m range and are still in their controlled years? Do you still qualify them, try to upgrade or go bargain bin UFA shopping? It's an interesting time for guys like Strome.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Most of the cap is going to go to the core players. But everyone else will get considerably less. The issue is, what happens to the middle class players like Strome who have qualifying offers in the 3-5m range and are still in their controlled years? Do you still qualify them, try to upgrade or go bargain bin UFA shopping? It's an interesting time for guys like Strome.

solid thoughts and i’ve wondered and mentioned the same. Can’t pay everybody so there will be a wide gap between the rich and middle class. Meanwhile, Kreider made out very well.

 

[2Leetch_94]

Hate to be one of those people but can anybody recap all the relevant rumors over the past few days? Much appreciated thanks in advance.

 

[Trxjw]

I read the Strome thing as one of the following:

A. They have a couple standing offers for Strome and are just deciding between them. Probably some sort of agreed upon deadline to decide so the other team(s) have an opportunity to talk contract before the QO is due.

B. They're working on a trade that will mean there's no money let for Strome and they don't want to be committed to him in the event that it comes through.

Could be a combination of both, or they're working on B and the market for Strome vanished so they're forced to let him walk.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Hate to be one of those people but can anybody recap all the relevant rumors over the past few days? Much appreciated thanks in advance.

I got you fam.

We’re trading for Eichel. Laine. Monahan. And Hanifan. We’re also bringing Grabner and Boyle back.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Shouldn't come as a surprise, until he publicly asks out Buffalo has no reason to trade him for anything less than a kings ransom. At that point it is possible Buffalo would be a bit more realistic.