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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXII

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duhmetreE said:
Sabres would be dumb to trade a player locked up. If losing means he wants out, that's another story. If that's the case...
McDavid should be available soon to.
Barkov as well.. FLA might see the writing on the wall with him and pre-emptively move him. You'd get much more for Barkov this offseason.

tbh Barkov is the better fit out of all 3.
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Barkov is not a better fit than McDavid on any hockey team.
 
Kupo said:
LOL Brooksie....

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I actually had to google that to see if it was real or photoshopped.
 
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Tawnos said:
Not for nothing, but none of these guys were 23. Duchene was 26. Karlsson 28. McDonagh 28. Richards 26. Kessel 27. O'Reilly 27. Nash 28.

I'd hesitate to say that those trades imply anything for an Eichel trade.
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Closest comp in recent memory is Johansen for Jones...and Johansen probably wasn't the same player that Eichel is now at the same age. Contract situation is different as well...

Point is, I think there's precedent but it's weak and subjective. Either way teams very rarely, if ever, trade cheap young talent. I don't see any situation where any team parts with a #1 overall pick or a #2 overall pick that's a year removed from the draft and on an ELC for a player with a $10M contract, while staring at a flat cap for at least another year or two.
 
bl02 said:
Just trying to be objective and see it from the other side but of course they asked for first overall, Chytil and probably Miller and maybe another roster player
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IMO the bigger story behind Herman's tweet (if true) is that Buffalo actually made an offer. That's a whole lot different than "we're not trading Eichel".

Even if the ask was astronomical, the fact that there's an open dialogue means it's being considered at some level. Gorton has time on his side too...we aren't a Cup contender with Eichel on this roster next year. Let their new GM sit on the fire for another season and deal with the rumors only amplifying the situation.
 
Leetch3 said:
even if we made trades for 3 centers before tuesday, you still qualify strome and then trade him
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Well I'm confident that the Rangers will qualify Strome if there's a trade market for him. That would just be lazy.
 
DutchShamrock said:
They could be asking for Igor and Kakko/Lundkvist. And they aren't going to deal all in futures. They will ask for roster skaters. ADA and Buchnevich.

But this is a long game. Eichel isn't going anywhere this season with 75% of his salary paid. They are setting their start point before negotiations grind for 9 months as the next signing bonus looms. I would assume we have our starting point set with a less than desirable package.

I am indifferent on an Eichel trade but it's kind of silly how much leverage we have. We are forced to wait by Buffalo until we gain more cap. Colorado gets closer to paying their stars. Ottawa is a division for. LA is the only true threat. Out of conference, cap space, prospects. They don't have the roster players to spare that would appeal to a team invested in making the playoffs quickly.
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Of course they want a lot. Buffalo knows they aren’t gona contend this year and prob next. They know Eichel can’t do anything about it but moap around. I think they are content to let him moap for at least this year and hope they get better, have him develop chemistry with Cozens maybe, maybe they add Rossi or a different NHL ready prospect this draft and jack buys in and wants to stay. This is the highly unlikely version but the best they can hope for. They are not going to take a package from the rangers without 1 proven impact player going back. I’m sure they want LAF but I reiterate a base of Kakko and Chytil next years first probably gets it done. It will give buffalo good cost controlled young assets to sell to the fan base to go along with Dahlin,Cozens, whoever they draft this year etc so their fans don’t become extremely disinterest and stop watching and buying tickets. That is not shitting on Kakko or Chytil they are both great prospects Kakko especially will be a 80-90 pt power winger when all said and done as most of us believe. However, to get a in conference team to deal their number one center with term at 23 while he has proven a lot already and possibly has more in the tank, the package is going to hurt. A lot.. I believe the rangers true target and the player they are better served going after is barkov. I think the package would cost a lot less because you can kind of hold Florida hostage over the fact of his upcoming free agency and his will to test FA. Although there are also a conference team they really can’t do anything but take the best package if he’s intent on testing the market... and let’s be honest if we want someone in FA 99 outta 100 we get him. He is a player who I believe NYR can get without giving LaF or Kakko and while he may be a notch below Eichel it’s not really significant. If NYR could run a top 6 of
LaF zibby kreider
panarin Barkov Kakko

they would be pretty untouchable offensively. Salary cap could become a problem but if they have the chance to try and have this top 6 for a few years they should go for it. They if Kravtsov emerges they can drop kreider to 3rd line or eventually deal him 4-5 years into his contract. Eichel would be great here no doubt but I think we would be better served with barkov. His contract would be cheaper due to Covid flat cap as well.
 
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Avery16 said:
Avoiding a one year award of 4.45 million which would make him an anchor.
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Do we really believe that at $4.45m, Strome is incapable of being traded? I sure don’t. Hell, worst case scenario the Rangers sign him to this deal, play him until the TDL and then trade him with 50% retained for future assets. I HIGHLY doubt that $4.45m is going to be make or break for Gorton this offseason. I also HIGHLY doubt that at $4.45m Strome is an ‘anchor’.
 
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Here’s a plot twist, could the Rangers want to sign Strome to a longer deal, say 4 years with a large bonus to be paid soon (say in the next couple of days), to make him more attractive for a team like Ottawa? In that sense, the fear of not being qualified may be enough for him to put pen to paper before the draft.

Edit - I would assume that any longer deal would be made with a handshake agreement with the other team who wants him, say Ottawa as an example.
 
NYR Viper said:
Here’s a plot twist, could the Rangers want to sign Strome to a longer deal, say 4 years with a large bonus to be paid soon (say in the next couple of days), to make him more attractive for a team like Ottawa? In that sense, the fear of not being qualified may be enough for him to put pen to paper before the draft.

Edit - I would assume that any longer deal would be made with a handshake agreement with the other team who wants him, say Ottawa as an example.
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I don't think there's too much fear of not getting qualified. That's an attractive fallback option for Strome.
 
NYR Viper said:
Here’s a plot twist, could the Rangers want to sign Strome to a longer deal, say 4 years with a large bonus to be paid soon (say in the next couple of days), to make him more attractive for a team like Ottawa? In that sense, the fear of not being qualified may be enough for him to put pen to paper before the draft.

Edit - I would assume that any longer deal would be made with a handshake agreement with the other team who wants him, say Ottawa as an example.
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I could buy this potentially. Ottawa is so damn cheap

Although I’m not sure why he would be afraid of not being qualified. If that happens he can go straight to UFA, someone will pay him if that happens
 
NYR Viper said:
Here’s a plot twist, could the Rangers want to sign Strome to a longer deal, say 4 years with a large bonus to be paid soon (say in the next couple of days), to make him more attractive for a team like Ottawa? In that sense, the fear of not being qualified may be enough for him to put pen to paper before the draft.

Edit - I would assume that any longer deal would be made with a handshake agreement with the other team who wants him, say Ottawa as an example.
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That seems like a lot of hoops to jump through to move a guy. I could see that making sense if TDA was a centerpiece for Eichel or something where the Rangers sign him to a long-term deal and give him a huge SB in the first year to save Buffalo money but Strome isn't breaking the bank for anyone.
 
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Avery16 said:
Avoiding a one year award of 4.45 million which would make him an anchor.
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it wouldn't though...if strome is still here he will be the 2C and would be expected to match his 69 point pace from last year playing with Panarin. He might not be our ideal 2C and we might not want to lock him up long term, but 4.45 mil for 1 year is a bargain.
 
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If the Rangers gave Strome a Q.O. and he unexpectedly accepted it, I wonder if that affects potential trade value. Could that be the hold up? If a team trades for him they probably want to be able to sign him for multiple years.
 
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If Strome is not qualified and if Brooks is right about fast leaving, I’m still puzzled with unloading Staal and what we’re doing with the cap space.
 
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