Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXII

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I can’t wait until we get Eichel for chump change next deadline and people act shocked

 

[kovazub94]

no it isn't because if lafreniere was a center he'd still be on his ELC contract and not making $10 mil per year totally blowing our cap structure out of the water

Sure, but you’re thinking only about a problem in year 1, in year 2 there’s no problem and after 3 years the advantage goes away and then some. A temporary cap detriment that would offset all benefits?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

But the team doesn't. So yeah, it is similar. NY doesn't have to add a single thing to have DeAngelo.... but yet they want to move him. Being the 3rd team to do so.

Sorry, that is going to affect his value. Remember, a team doesn't need DeAngelo, just 70% of his pts (or again, does it not work that way now) or 60% and competent defense.

If you want a top 20 asset in the league and won't give up one of the top 5 assets from your own team to do it, then it's not a realistic offer.

Lol you're assuming that the team wants to move on. Even if what you're saying is true, the situations aren't remotely the same and you're making an embarrassingly terrible stretch to try to forge a connection.

And yeah, if a team can get 70% of DeAngelo's production off of an ELC contract, I'd probably push to keep that guy. Sabres don't have that guy on the right side (honestly, your RHD are f***ing awful) so yeah...

The smart play for the Sabres would be to hold out another year. Maybe they improve and this all goes away, but at least they'll give themselves the opportunity to be in a situation where perhaps there is more financial stability in the league and maybe another team or 2 with the ability to jump into the bidding.

You still won't get a 1-2 OA pick for him though.

 

[Leetch3]

Sure, but you’re thinking only about a problem in year 1, in year 2 there’s no problem and after 3 years the advantage goes away and then some. A temporary cap detriment that would offset all benefits?

there are zero benefits to trading the 1st overall picks for eichel...that would be stupid on our part.

 

[Avery16]

Maatta at 3.3 isn’t horrible.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Maatta at 3.3 isn’t horrible.

Maatta at any price is horrible.

He isn't a good player.

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Aren't all Tampa players going to have a premium now

 

[Trxjw]

Gourde checks a lot of boxes for this team. Speed, some grit, plays all 3 positions, and he can kill penalties. We have plenty of talent up front to surround him with so you're not relying on him to drive the play and generate on his own. The only downside is the term left on his deal. If he'd waive I'm sure there would be a decent market for him.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Lol you're assuming that the team wants to move on. Even if what you're saying is true, the situations aren't remotely the same and you're making an embarrassingly terrible stretch to try to forge a connection.

And yeah, if a team can get 70% of DeAngelo's production off of an ELC contract, I'd probably push to keep that guy. Sabres don't have that guy on the right side (honestly, your RHD are f***ing awful) so yeah...

The smart play for the Sabres would be to hold out another year. Maybe they improve and this all goes away, but at least they'll give themselves the opportunity to be in a situation where perhaps there is more financial stability in the league and maybe another team or 2 with the ability to jump into the bidding.

You still won't get a 1-2 OA pick for him though.

1) I'm not a Sabres fan, in fact I've been pretty notorious amongst their fans for years.
2) What's embarrassing is going after a top 10 #1 C and offering a guy that is being foisted upon every team and who even some of your own insiders are saying doesn't have the kind of market that you seem think, but you don't want to believe it.
3) It's also embarrassing to think that there would only be 1 bidder right now. We are talking about a franchise C, something few teams have and every team needs.
4) I get that it feels really good to sit and think about adding elite talent by giving up the things you don't mind losing. But no, it's not realistic.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

1) I'm not a Sabres fan, in fact I've been pretty notorious amongst their fans for years.
2) What's embarrassing is going after a top 10 #1 C and offering a guy that is being foisted upon every team and who even some of your own insiders are saying doesn't have the kind of market that you seem think, but you don't want to believe it.
3) It's also embarrassing to think that there would only be 1 bidder right now. We are talking about a franchise C, something few teams have and every team needs.
4) I get that it feels really good to sit and think about adding elite talent by giving up the things you don't mind losing. But no, it's not realistic.

1. Ok
2. What?
3. No there isnt just one bidder right now, but that number is no greater than 5.
4. Glass houses dude.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Quick question for those who know:

When do the NYR have to qualify their RFAs by? Have we gotten any announcement other than the ADA leak that our RFA's have received their QO?

From the MOU:

 

[Richard Banger]

1) I'm not a Sabres fan, in fact I've been pretty notorious amongst their fans for years.
2) What's embarrassing is going after a top 10 #1 C and offering a guy that is being foisted upon every team and who even some of your own insiders are saying doesn't have the kind of market that you seem think, but you don't want to believe it.
3) It's also embarrassing to think that there would only be 1 bidder right now. We are talking about a franchise C, something few teams have and every team needs.
4) I get that it feels really good to sit and think about adding elite talent by giving up the things you don't mind losing. But no, it's not realistic.

You are mumbling complete bullshit.

 

[NYRangers16]

I see the Sunday posters are out and about today. People dealing Laf and Kakko for 10m+ capped players, 1sts for Zadorov, and god knows what else. The mods should be allowed to mute these people lol.

 

[SA16]

Wouldn't trade a 3rd round pick for Zadorov lol. 22nd overall?

 

[bobbop]

Maatta at 3.3 isn’t horrible.

Maatta is horrible at a buck two eighty. The Blackhawks were thrilled to move him off the cap. He was a healthy scratch in the play in round. They would have taken me back in trade.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I think his take behind all of this is we have the deepest system to trade out of whereas other teams may not be okay with dealing away multiple assets. The deal starts with Chytil and ADA and if anyone tries topping that we have picks and players to add and it will be very hard to outbid the Rangers.

he said the deal is Chytil/ADA and challenged others to best it

 

[Avery16]

Maatta is horrible at a buck two eighty. The Blackhawks were thrilled to move him off the cap. He was a healthy scratch in the play in round. They would have taken me back in trade.

Oh I’m sure it was a cap dump. I’d take him over Smith still.

 

[SA16]

Maatta is horrible at a buck two eighty. The Blackhawks were thrilled to move him off the cap. He was a healthy scratch in the play in round. They would have taken me back in trade.

He played literally every game in the playoffs for Chicago...and scored 3 goals and 3 assists...and was on the ice for 10 GF/4 GA...

 

[Off Sides]

I can’t wait until we get Eichel for chump change next deadline and people act shocked

I'd like that, yet also would mean the Rangers had cap space to make such a deal.

Which goes back to me thinking the market will change for the better concerning the Rangers position. Between the flat cap, teams losing money, the who knows season they are going to enter, expansion draft, it's going to provide movement.

1 year deals for all the RFAs, make deals at the deadline when they have players who are movable on those one year deals, and next off-season when they have a ton of cap space coming off the books.

 

[effen]

He played literally every game in the playoffs for Chicago...and scored 3 goals and 3 assists...and was on the ice for 10 GF/4 GA...

Unless the Chicago management is stunningly stupid they traded him for an ECHL player and paid money for the privilege despite having absolutely no one to replace him and couldn't even squeeze a 7th rounder out of it. Says it all.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I’d dump Smith and retain just like the Maata deal

We ,ay still but my money is on he finishes here (deadline excepted) because he can play LD and RD on the 3rd pair, he is Mr Versatility for a reason. He also allows us to roster 21, after retention and backfill we’d save like a mil on the cap

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Quiet day around the league eh

 

[Avery16]

Unless the Chicago management is stunningly stupid they traded him for an ECHL player and paid money for the privilege despite having absolutely no one to replace him and couldn't even squeeze a 7th rounder out of it. Says it all.

Chicago is always against the cap, always making deals to stay compliant.

 

[bl02]

Quiet day around the league eh

Money, Money, Money. Cash strapped teams making it harder on both parties to make a deal/little more complicated.
Or the GM's are out enjoying this beautiful weather (Joking).
I hope tomorrow we see a few trade or maybe we will just have to wait until draft day.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Sunday is Gorton's day of rest not sure why anyone was expecting something to happen today