Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXI

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Assuming a trade with CGY is made, Buch seems like an obvious piece going the other way.
 
Don't also rule out the Rangers keeping very close tabs on what Washington does with Dillon.

They would probably prefer to sign him than trade for some of the other options right now.
Dillon would be the most optimal move imo. They dont have to fork over assets, it probably wont be a contract longer than 4 years at the most, and he can provide that stay at home defensive play we need to balance out the defense. But it would come down to the AAV. He is going to want a pay raise from the $3.270 AAV he was just making. How high does he shoot for? $4 AAV? $4.5 AAV? $5? I mean anything higher than $4.5 AAV and I have pause, as much as I really want him.
 
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Said it before that I can see how people would have trepidation regarding Hanafin. That being said, he's locked up on a pretty decent contract and still has a lot of upside. We're all here raving about DeAngelo taking a huge step this season and Tony is 15 months older than Hanafin is. If you get Hanafin and he hits his potential, you have a top pairing locked up for 4 years for under $13m as your much of your elite talent is still on ELCs. Could be an absolutely massive win if it works out.

I also think we have to be mindful of the concept of "the perfect" getting in the way of the quest for "the better."

The Rangers aren't going to have perfect solutions for every roster spot right now. They will however pursue options that make them "better" overall.

And some of those options might be here two years, or three years. Maybe we get lucky and they're here for 6 or 7 years.

But not every option is going to be for the 23 year old blue chip talent, or result in having a potential all-star in every position.

It might mean someone like Dillon holding down the fort for 3 or 4 years, and potentially sliding down as younger guys emerge.

It might mean Hanifin for a while.

It might mean Monahan or Lindholm as second line centers over Strome, and then moving Strome for picks or prospects in other areas.

It's not always going to be the quest for Eichel, or Theodore, or Nylander.
 
Hanifin is better than Skjei. Younger, more raw talent. He's only 23 and has been playing steady top 4 minutes in the league since being drafted.

I still think he becomes a solid 2-way #2 defenseman and a good compliment for a guy like Fox. Is he the best defenseman on the market? No, of course not.

But does he make a ton of sense as a quasi buy-low candidate that comes cost controlled and not even in his prime yet? Yes, he does.

This is an asset the Rangers can work with. I like them to take a chance on him. It's not like his contract would be immovable if we want another look in our top 4.
 
I don’t know what to think with the Fast situation. If he comes back, meh ok I guess. But then you’re gonna be blocking a kid from developing. What was the point of trading for Gauthier, and giving him a chance because he wasn’t getting it in Carolina, just to give him 4th line minutes? You have Buch(if he isn’t traded), KK, potentially Kravtsov, and Goat, adding Fast to that mix will block one of your young players because you know Fast will get top 6 minutes when he’s not a top 6 winger.
 
Don't also rule out the Rangers keeping very close tabs on what Washington does with Dillon.

They would probably prefer to sign him than trade for some of the other options right now.
Dillon would be preferable to Hanifin imo.

He’d be a pretty ideal partner for ADA, if we don’t trade him.
 
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May be something small but this is worth noting IMO:

If the deal is Monahan and Hanifan both are UFA's at the end of their deals but BOTH will be very young in terms of UFA's. Monahan will be 28 and Hanifan will be 27. O\In terms of keeping them longer if desired, they won't be 31 when their contracts run out so even 5-6 year deals after these take them into their early 30's, not mid-to-late 30's.
 
I would be quite unhappy with hanifin. like really.

i rather go after an injured Hamonic to be honest. Hanifin is soft as butter. no thanks. not a fan. I do like Lindholm and Monohan depending on cost. would love the Tkachuk brothers together somehow. that is a dream unless they want to play together before they retire in their 30s. it would be funny after the years of Keith Tkachuk being rumored, then both sons become Rangers together.
 
I can't really wrap my head around what the trad value would be of Monahan + Hanafin...sounds like it would be a painful trade from our side.
 
Three years are definitely more palatable than four but in the current situation it’s quite likely there would be equally good options for under $3m.
Like I said, I think he could get better offers elsewhere. Maybe a more, shorter term deal. Maybe a longer term, similar money offer.

He might be best suited signing with the contending team for a year and wait for the finances in the league to hopeful become a bit more normalized.
 
Dillon would be preferable to Hanifin imo.

He’d be a pretty ideal partner for ADA, if we don’t trade him.

He would, but it's up in the air right now.

Washington wants him back and is supposedly looking to make room.

The Rangers will try to balance patience with the concept that sometimes you gotta make a move or risk ending up with nothing.

So we'll see how things shake out, but Dillon and the Rangers would be a 12:01 a.m. conversation.
 
Lindholm and Hanifin could morph into Monhahan and Hanifin.

Stay tuned.

I’ve been thinking Monahan and Hanafin for DeAngelo and Strome (but may be Buch)

Does Calgary have a later 1st? If so they could flip spots w NYR too
 
I dont know how to feel about this

Monahan seems to have higher point numbers.

Lindholm scores a little less, but seems to be a better defender.

Lindholm's contract is $4.8m for 4 more years, Monahan's is $6.3 for 3 more years.

Both are 25 years old and both have been in the league for 7 seasons.

Seems close.
 
I found these stats kind of interesting

Noah Hanifin Stats | Hockey-Reference.com
hanifno01.html


Note his first few seasons in Carolina he was used HEAVILY on the offensive side of the game. Now in Calgary, you can see that has completely changed, leaning more towards defensive zone starts. The entire Calgary team was bad this past season but if Hanifan has developed into that strong 2-way guy he could be an unbelievable add.
 
Monahan seems to have higher point numbers.

Lindholm scores a little less, but seems to be a better defender.

Lindholm's contract is $4.8m for 4 more years, Monahan's is $6.3 for 3 more years.

Both are 25 years old and both have been in the league for 7 seasons.

Seems close.

Lindholm is more underrated in my opinion and a better fit, better 2 way hockey. I would take either player in a trade if the cost is right.
 
A lot of people I've talked, including outside the Rangers, think Calgary is a good fit for us.

The real question is how big does either team dare to go --- especially right now.

It's hard because sometimes you have teams circling each other for a long time, and they come really, really close to a deal, but there's a hesitation from one or both sides and the deal literally dies on the one yard line.

Calgary and the Rangers are close, very close. We'll see if they can get something across the goal line. Maybe they end up kicking a field goal for right now. We'll see.
 
Don't also rule out the Rangers keeping very close tabs on what Washington does with Dillon.

They would probably prefer to sign him than trade for some of the other options right now.

Would probably be my preference as opposed to giving up assets for a LD.
 
What would Hanafin cost?
What would Hanafin + Monahan cost?
I'm open to both if it makes sense. But I don't want to do it just to make a trade.
Buch for Hanafin?
 
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