Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LX

[True Blue]

I suspect the Rangers would like to find a longer term strong solution at center and Strome isn't that guy, even if he plays well again next year. If you can't find something that works, Strome is fine for another year. If you can find a trade to get a younger guy on a decent contract, then you move on from Strome.

This (sort of) is effectively what I said in a previous response. Strome is not long term. Strome is Mr. Right Now. And we know that right now , it works. Given how he has performed with Panarin, there is no panic or a mad rush to come in and replace him.

 

[Thirty One]

I view him like this. Everyone always wants Mr or Mrs Right. But there are times when Mr or Mrs Right Now is good enough. And that is what Strome is. Mr. Right Now. Right now is not long term. Right now is right now. And right now, it completely works and will come along at a more reasonable rate than trying to bring in Mr. Right. By having Strome right now, it buys some time to a) let Chytil continue to develop and show that he is ready for that spot or b) let the trade market develop and see what assets can be parted with. There just is no rush at this point and time.

That's beautiful.

 

[aufheben]

I mean he's a 6'2 220lb kid with elite skating, some bite in his game, and the potential to be a 50 point contributor from the back end. Plenty to like. The real question is he a guy who can grow into a complete player or is he destined to be a 2nd pairing guy who eats up minutes on the PP?

Im just saying people talk about him like he’s Heiskanen. He still has a LOT to prove.

Keep in mind he’s going to cost #22OA + Nils Lundkvist (if not more) and then a 7x7 contract. Trading for this kid is a massive commitment, and possibly not a wise one considering how many people regret Trouba (and Trouba was a lot more proven at the time).

 

[Edge]

Sometimes I do think that we've become to concerned with being "stuck with" Strome that we've not really allowed ourselves to simply "live with" him.

It's very easy to say Strome benefits from Panarin. He most certainly does. But I think we've forgotten that simply having a star player doesn't automatically equate to success for the lucky bastard who gets to play alongside him.

Now obviously we can't get stupid here, and I don't think anyone is under the impression that Strome is their ideal second line pivot, but I also don't think we can discount that a better option is not currently on the roster and you have to make sure you get the right person to fill that role.

 

[LeetchisGod]

I disagree that it was terrible. It’s still up in the air but nils and henriksson are real good prospects. I like Hajek and he is still young

Hajek and Howden are underwhelming. Henriksson lacks size and speed. Nils is the only one with significant upside.

 

[dshea19]

Sometimes I do think that we've become to concerned with being "stuck with" Strome that we've not really allowed ourselves to simply "live with" him.

It's very easy to say Strome benefits from Panarin. He most certainly does. But I think we've forgotten that simply having a star player doesn't automatically equate to success for the lucky bastard who gets to play alongside him.

Now obviously we can't get stupid here, and I don't think anyone is under the impression that Strome is their ideal second line pivot, but I also don't think we can discount that a better option is not currently on the roster and you have to make sure you get the right person to fill that role.

If Chytil could develop a give-and-go game and figure out face offs, he could be that guy. I have concerns about his playmaking ability. IF he figures center out, he is a dangerous weapon. If not, then he is a winger and the Rangers have better options at wing than him. I think this could be a deciding season for the Rangers concerning Chytil. That is not to say he never gets it, but if he doesn't this year, he may have to figure it out somewhere else.

 

[Polar Bear]

Sometimes I do think that we've become to concerned with being "stuck with" Strome that we've not really allowed ourselves to simply "live with" him.

It's very easy to say Strome benefits from Panarin. He most certainly does. But I think we've forgotten that simply having a star player doesn't automatically equate to success for the lucky bastard who gets to play alongside him.

Now obviously we can't get stupid here, and I don't think anyone is under the impression that Strome is their ideal second line pivot, but I also don't think we can discount that a better option is not currently on the roster and you have to make sure you get the right person to fill that role.

I'm willing to ride with Strome for a season or so alongside giving Chytil a long look at center, if we can't find a better option right now. I rather wait for the right 2C than just grab the first one we can get.

 

[huerter]

I just saw that Trouba is part of the Rangers virtual draft event. You're testing my faith gentlemen.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I wouldn't include Kravtsov in that deal. Maybe someone else. Miller is an ok inclusion.

That's fair. I was on the fence about it as well. Honestly, I am not sure what Serg would cost, but I am sure what ever it was would sting quite a bit.

 

[Trxjw]

Im just saying people talk about him like he’s Heiskanen. He still has a LOT to prove.

Keep in mind he’s going to cost #22OA + Nils Lundkvist (if not more) and then a 7x7 contract. Trading for this kid is a massive commitment, and possibly not a wise one considering how many people regret Trouba (and Trouba was a lot more proven at the time).

I absolutely agree. He's riding a ton of hype right now so it's easy to over project what he become and handing out a major contract based on potential could very quickly tie a large anchor around the rebuild.

That's all part of why I think a guy like Hanafin is perhaps more appealing. Lower cost, locked in to a friendly term and similar upside.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Free Agent Frenzy Top 75: Minnesota Wild’s Carson Soucy a hot commodity - TSN.ca


Soucy a low risk signing??

Carson Soucy Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

LD only 26 has size. worth a risk. if Wild don't resign him, Rangers should look at these type of guys for more depth.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

I'd rather let our in house LD options cook and re-evaluate in a year or two.

We aren't winning this year anyway. Sign a veteran stopgap and revisit.

Right, so why play?

Lol, not necessarily disagreeing, but with Lafreniere debuting and having bought out Henrik, I guarantee the front office doesn't agree. They get paid to win or come as close as possible. Even Ottawa, they know chances are virtually nil, I think but, what did NYR do in 2005? Assemble a bunch of role players to grind it out (what bad teams do)... to a 4-game loss lol but still... Last season it was safe to say no chance. Now, with what JG has accomplished, is time to hope.

 

[Fireonk]

Ok, here is my plan. ADA for Lindholm. Trade Strome for whatever. Sign Krug.

Panarin/Lindholm/Fast
Kreider/Zib/Kakko
Laf/Chytil/Buch
Lemiux/Howden/Gauthier

Barron first man up.

Krug/Trouba
Lindgren/Fox
Smith/placeholder

Miller first man up.

Flame away....

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Ok, here is my plan. ADA for Lindholm. Trade Strome for whatever. Sign Krug.

Panarin/Lindholm/Fast
Kreider/Zib/Kakko
Laf/Chytil/Buch
Lemiux/Howden/Gauthier

Barron first man up.

Krug/Trouba
Lindgren/Fox
Smith/placeholder

Miller first man up.

Flame away....

Is Krug really the type of minute eating shut down defensemen that a team needs on the first pairing to win a cup?

 

[bleedblue94]

Rumor: - Oilers will move #14 for late 1st and a 2nd

Apparently oilers are willing to deal 14 and move back in the 1st round if they can add a 2nd rounder, could be a fit with nyr?

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Rumor: - Oilers will move #14 for late 1st and a 2nd

Apparently oilers are willing to deal 14 and move back in the 1st round if they can add a 2nd rounder, could be a fit with nyr?

We don’t have a second rounder

 

[bleedblue94]

Is Krug really the type of minute eating shut down defensemen that a team needs on the first pairing to win a cup?

Krug would become the ld version of what ada was for this team last year: ppqb with limited matchups 5v5. That is not enough to justify the large ufa contract he will probably get

 

[Fireonk]

Is Krug really the type of minute eating shut down defensemen that a team needs on the first pairing to win a cup?

What shut down first pairing LD is available?

He will take the spot of ADA now, only difference is we need the LD more than the RD.

 

[bleedblue94]

We don’t have a second rounder

just because we dont have one right now doesn't mean that we wont be acquiring one in another trade. I believe Edge has made it pretty obvious nyr is talking with ott about a 2nd for strome if other deal come together, and AG is still not guaranteed to be here even with henke's buyout.

"Dominos"

Realistically I think nyr could use a 3rd or two 3rds to jsutify that swap since 22 isn't exactly at the end of the first round. In a 31 pick round I would consider 22 to be still in the middle of the round. 25-27 is where I would consider it to be the back of or end of the round

 

[Trxjw]

Rumor: - Oilers will move #14 for late 1st and a 2nd

Apparently oilers are willing to deal 14 and move back in the 1st round if they can add a 2nd rounder, could be a fit with nyr?

Oilers fans seemed to like 22 and Georgiev for 14 if Askarov went off the board. I would bet the Rangers would jump on that as well.

 

[bleedblue94]

Oilers fans seemed to like 22 and Georgiev for 14 if Askarov went off the board. I would bet the Rangers would jump on that as well.

I think nyr would still have to add something to make that happen. Some sort of mid round pick, but certainly doable from nyr perspective

 

[broadwayblue]

We don’t have a second rounder

2nd rounder in 2022?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Rumor: - Oilers will move #14 for late 1st and a 2nd

Apparently oilers are willing to deal 14 and move back in the 1st round if they can add a 2nd rounder, could be a fit with nyr?

We’d have to get a 2nd first. Maybe with our 2 3rds but It would be the low second round if that’s the case since Dallas’ is gonna be the second to last pick there.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Also, No Krug. Come on now. Not the guy we need at all here.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Committing big money to Torey Krug is a disaster in the making.