Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LVII

[Leetch3]

note that Petry has 1 more year left on his contract @ $5.5 mil...the new contract starts in 21-22

 

[Inferno]

I'd be furious if I was a habs fan.

You don't sign guys till they are 37.

 

[bleedblue94]

I can't imagine that the Rangers are stopping Hank and his camp from talking to other teams about options right now, even though it's technically forbidden to talk contracts at this point they can at least gauge interest. So buying him out right now doesn't put anyone in a more advantageous position. That being said, you're right that waiting until the 2nd window might be unfair to Hank as he'll be removed from the initial rush on goalies. So in that sense it's probably likely he's bought out before the draft.

I just think it will be a game of musical chairs with goalies and with the condensed timelines for gms this "offseason" I think it would be insult to the buyout injury if it happens later and leaves henke without a seat somewhere else in the nhl if he actually wants one. we will see soon.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I'd be furious if I was a habs fan.

You don't sign guys till they are 37.

Like Lundqvist?

 

[Avery16]

I'd be furious if I was a habs fan.

You don't sign guys till they are 37.

Especially a damn NMC

 

[Avery16]

Like Lundqvist?

Was Petry ever one of the best D in the game?

 

[Savant]

Like Lundqvist?

To be fair Rangers signed that deal in 2013. Montreal should know better

 

[Inferno]

Like Lundqvist?

Exactly. Last 3 years of Henrik haven't been the best.

 

[Fitzy]

Everyone's always hoping they've found an outlier.

Dunno the exact distribution among star players, but guys who are washed up at 30 (Simmonds, Mike Richards) and guys who are still near their peak at 37-38 (MSL, Selanne) are well outside two standard deviations.

Seems like most guys start their '2nd decline' (After peaking at 22-24) at around 29-30 and by age 36-37 they're either a role player or on the verge of retiring.

 

[Avery16]

Everyone's always hoping they've found an outlier.

Dunno the exact distribution among star players, but guys who are washed up at 30 (Simmonds, Mike Richards) and guys who are still near their peak at 37-38 (MSL, Selanne) are well outside two standard deviations.

Seems like most guys start their '2nd decline' (After peaking at 22-24) at around 29-30 and by age 36-37 they're either a role player or on the verge of retiring.

It feels like a lot of these recent contracts have buyout as all but understood.

 

[egelband]

That is a fair way to look at it. That said, who are you bringing in for less than that to be the 2C here? The team will be looking to contend. Chytil has not shown that he is ready, and who can blame him given that he is only 20? So what cheaper second line center is coming here as a UFA and for how many years?

I’d go one or two years with Strome. No problem. Just want to avoid going longer.

 

[egelband]

He's a second liner with Panarin but this is not the point. We were discussing a risk of having him signed for the 2nd year.

Can't read into his mind but let's assume he's willing to stay in a good situation for one extra year to continue to build up his open market value. What's the risk for the Rangers having him for this second year at $5m? Let's even assume that in the upcoming year or a year after Chytil overtakes him as 2C and Strome turns into pumpkin. But what kind of pumpkin? Based on what we saw in 2019 he should be a pretty good 3rd liner with right partners. Then won't he be a pretty good pumpkin if instead of playing with Names and Fast in two years he'd get to play with Howden and Kravtsov? Even from the cap perspective the average cost of that 3rd line would be more than acceptable.

I agree. I think we can keep him for two years. Just don’t want to be locked in long term, so to speak. The next couple years I reckon we can fudge the cap a bit.

 

[Gluten Free Breadman]

Those 62 lines are manned by 198 players. That is a fact that cannot be disputed or argued.

except that 62 x 3 = 186

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

except that 62 x 3 = 186

Facts aren’t True Blue’s forte

 

[Gluten Free Breadman]

Facts aren’t True Blue’s forte

Confidently incorrect.

 

[Vitto79]

I'd be furious if I was a habs fan.

You don't sign guys till they are 37.

The deals are front loaded w bonuses so last year it’s easy to move to a cap floor team

Ottawa has to add 20 million that’s like 4 guys making too much on th cap but actual dollars are less

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I'd be furious if I was a habs fan.

You don't sign guys till they are 37.

If we had signed Lundqvist til he was 37 it would have been a good contract

 

[Avery16]

except that 62 x 3 = 186

What part of 'cannot be disputed or argued' do you not comprehend?

 

[aufheben]

The thing about all these moves Montreal has been making is that they essentially have to keep Danault now.

 

[JCProdigy]

Facts aren’t True Blue’s forte

Confidently incorrect.

 

[Avery16]

Could Weise stay healthy enough to be a cheap alternative to Fast if we can't get him under contract?

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

If we had signed Lundqvist til he was 37 it would have been a good contract

I think it was still a pretty good one regardless

 

[Avery16]

I think it was still a pretty good one regardless

Maybe we should've gone with Biron instead.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Could Weise stay healthy enough to be a cheap alternative to Fast if we can't get him under contract?

No.

 

[NYR]

More gifs to describe someone..Yay..NO lol