I posted a range that I believe is fair to both sides.
$5m is what it is going to take for even 1 year. So again I ask you, who are you looking to bring in that will play the second line and cost less?
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Oh so if we aren't a cup favorite, its bad contracts for everyone? Glen indeed.
So hope and pray that Chytil is ready is what I am picking up. Never mind that he has actually not show that.
The last response is what I would expect when backed into a corner .
He isn't. Which is why I doubt he is going anywhere. At least not next year.
you don't think Staal has value based on a name
, although I rather buy out Staal. Smith at least is tough and has some bite to his game and is not as useless as Staal
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I fail to see how you got that from what I said, but you seem pretty set in your truth.
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Strome one year, either sell at deadline or extend. In the mean time they can see if Chytil can take that spot, if so trade Strome, if not see what it would take to extend him, and if that is too much look to trade him and maybe some other stuff to get a 2c going forward.
ADA I'd go either 1 or 4 years. One year leaves him a RFA with two RFA years left, next off-season see if he is willing to sign away any UFA years, if not just sign him again to a one year deal. That may turn out to become a Trouba/ Winnipeg situation where they eventually have to deal him before he hits UFA, yet sometimes that happens.
Before any of that can happen, qualify all the RFAs
Look for trades
Let them elect arbitration
Don't spend much if anything on available UFAs
Looks for trades
Offer the RFA about what they'd get in arbitration on one year deals, there are comparable deals and will be more signed soon.
See if the RFAs will take the deals offered, if not Rangers elect one year awards, let arbitration award them all one year deals.
If any come in too high for their liking, just sign those one year awards, look to retain if necessary while looking for trades.
Strome on a one year deal would need to be traded or extended by the trade deadline. No self renting.
ADA after the one year deal would still have two RFA left. Try to figure something else longer term out then, if not same process. That may eventually turn into the Strome situation where it's extend or trade down the line. If they sign him to 4 years they buy up one UFA year and that is about the most I see him even possibly selling at any cap hit anyone would like.
Georgiev and Lemieux similarly would have RFA years left after their one year, team still has enough leverage by leaving them RFAs to make an extension, until the trade deadline of their last RFA year where it become the Strome situation, extend or sell in that year at the deadline if not sooner.
If trades need to be made, they do, yet it's not like any of those players lose as ton of value in the trade market on one year deals as anywhere they would be traded to now would just be putting themselves in that same position.
ADA I'd go either 1 or 4 years. One year leaves him a RFA with two RFA years left, next off-season see if he is willing to sign away any UFA years, if not just sign him again to a one year deal. That may turn out to become a Trouba/ Winnipeg situation where they eventually have to deal him before he hits UFA, yet sometimes that happens.
Before any of that can happen, qualify all the RFAs
Look for trades
Let them elect arbitration
Don't spend much if anything on available UFAs
Looks for trades
Offer the RFA about what they'd get in arbitration on one year deals, there are comparable deals and will be more signed soon.
See if the RFAs will take the deals offered, if not Rangers elect one year awards, let arbitration award them all one year deals.
If any come in too high for their liking, just sign those one year awards, look to retain if necessary while looking for trades.
Strome on a one year deal would need to be traded or extended by the trade deadline. No self renting.
ADA after the one year deal would still have two RFA left. Try to figure something else longer term out then, if not same process. That may eventually turn into the Strome situation where it's extend or trade down the line. If they sign him to 4 years they buy up one UFA year and that is about the most I see him even possibly selling at any cap hit anyone would like.
Georgiev and Lemieux similarly would have RFA years left after their one year, team still has enough leverage by leaving them RFAs to make an extension, until the trade deadline of their last RFA year where it become the Strome situation, extend or sell in that year at the deadline if not sooner.
If trades need to be made, they do, yet it's not like any of those players lose as ton of value in the trade market on one year deals as anywhere they would be traded to now would just be putting themselves in that same position.
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It's a bit of a gamble, to be sure, but Chytil's analytics have been quite good, as have his limited stints with top 6 wingers. I think he could very quickly grow into the role if given the opportunity. I like Strome well enough, but his lack of defense, particularly when our back 6 is such a mess/in the middle of being rebuilt, concerns me. I also think, as I said earlier, that if he re-signs, he will quickly become a scapegoat. He's the kind of player you love when they are on a bargain, and I don't think he's looking to be paid as a bargain player after this past season.
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QO says less.
you can ask me 100 more times. If you don’t like the answer, asking the same question over and over isn’t going to change it. Without knowing the market how can anybody answer that question? You can’t. You’re going about this thread like Strome is the end all. Maybe he is but we don’t know yet.
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No need to rush anything. They will have another buyout window if that's the route they choose to take. They may well just be waiting until after the draft (which is when they are most likely to move Georgiev, IMO). If they don't move Georgiev, they may buy out Lundqvist in the 2nd window, or he may end up retiring. So many possible outcomes with the goalie situation.
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i could see a player like Laf feeding the biscuit to Chytil for a lot of goals yet i’m not sold on Chytil’s being a 2nd line center until he demonstrates to be more of a playmaker.
Nah it makes sense.
Lets see how the goalie market in FA plays out, maybe there will be a team that wants to take a crack at him @50% after missing out on someone they wanted to sign.
It’s almost impossible to miss out this year. There’s so many goalies out there it’s crazy. But more than anything. You’d think hank would want the entire time to be available for a team to choose him. So more for him than for NYR. The sooner he’s free to make a decision the better for him
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Hard to stack up the apples with Howden and Kakko (the Kakko of this past season, anyway) on your wings.
I'd like to see him on a line with Panarin and Buchnevich. Panarin scores and passes well, and Buch is a playmaker. It would be a line where the shot could come from anywhere.
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he has to show us before i’m comfortable. I see him skating hard up the rush but not too much of a playmaker yet. Would like to see him nail down the 2nd line center but need to see more.
Just to make a point though he showed that play making ability at the AHL level. So we know it’s in him.
this was a similar knock on. Mika too. Shoot first center. He still is but he gets his assists and is a top end top line center.
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Lundqvist cannot be put on waivers, so if he's bought out, it will happen immediately (NMC). So this doesn't mean anything
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i think we would all love it if he could nail down that 2nd line center position.
dont they still have to be technically placed on waivers for purpose of buy out
pretty sure logistically that needs to happen
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