Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LV

[UAGoalieGuy]

ADA for Lindholm and the #22 for Dunn would be a nice shuffle of assets.

Does the org view Lundkvist as an option for this season? Or more mid-season to next season eta?

 

[Trxjw]

Calgary has 4 D signed next season and one is right side, Andersson. If we are dealing you almost have to think ADA is the basis. They have plenty of forwards and Lindholm is a known quantity on a know deal. Why do they swap him out on a guy (Buchnevich) needing a deal sooner than later without any playoff pedigree?

St. Louis on the other hand has a top right wing with a concerning injury to his shoulder that didn't heal so well on the first go around. He's projected to be back early in the season, but Armstrong has proven his value on depth, and a 1st rounder doesn't help on this current window.

I've been on record as saying Buchnevich is under rated here. He's our top RW as well as the only proven guy on that side. He is morphing into a battler and seems to get different players going. Consistent with the @Edge synopsis, losing Buchnevich creates a big hole that I don't think the team is eager to open.

That being said, I can see ADA/Buchnevich going out with Lindholm/Dunn coming back with their respective trades. It makes sense for the other teams, it addresses holes here. Maybe more moving parts (Robert Thomas and 22OA), but no mega deals.

You're probably right that the team isn't particularly eager to open up a hole on the RW but based on the information flowing around it seems like they're exploring options that would mitigate that loss. Adding Lindholm allows Strome to move to the RW if there isn't a market for him or Lindholm himself can play that role in the short term. Granlund as a UFA is a RW option. Talks about moving Kreider to the right seem to also indicate that the Rangers feel they have an internal option as well.

It certainly seems like the Rangers have a lot of balls in the air. Things ranging from big swaps to minor tweaks to bargain bin shopping. If they trade Buch I'm confident they feel like they can mitigate the impact in some way.

 

[Trxjw]

ADA for Lindholm and the #22 for Dunn would be a nice shuffle of assets.

Does the org view Lundkvist as an option for this season? Or more mid-season to next season eta?

Earliest he could jump is after Lulea's season is over. He's under contract with them for the year and there doesn't appear to be any sort of out-clause in place.

 

[duhmetreE]

ADA for Lindholm and the #22 for Dunn would be a nice shuffle of assets.

Does the org view Lundkvist as an option for this season? Or more mid-season to next season eta?

ADA for Lindholm would be a tough pill to swallow but its the logical move. I just dont see a world where the Rangers can retain ADA. It's unfortunate because he brings a swagger to the team IMO

We have his replacement looking like a Swedish Adam Fox. It fills a need and we even get more in return with a Strome trade.

 

[Leetch3]

That's fair about the expansion draft. I have no idea why Scandella would get a NTC. Though he's still eligible to be exposed. Why would they protect Scandella over Dunn?

thats a good point. I wouldn't but I know i've read they have protection problems but maybe that was expecting to protect the other 3 and exposing both scandella and dunn. they have too many forwards to go 8/1 instead of 7/3.

of course its all depending on them resigning pietreangelo...if he walks then they can protect dunn

 

[BBKers]

ADA for Lindholm and the #22 for Dunn would be a nice shuffle of assets.
Does the org view Lundkvist as an option for this season? Or more mid-season to next season eta?

Larry Brooks told me that Strome is going to Columbus for Josh Andersson +

KZB
Bread - Lindholm - Kakko
LAF - Chytil - J Andersson (signs for 2 years)
Lemmy - Howden - GOAT
#13 UFA VET CHEAP (maybe take a flyer on Colin Wilson at 1M)

Dunn - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Hajek/Reuanen - Smith
Staal

Shesty
UFA VET like Howard on the cheap (signs for 2 years)

Hank => FRONT OFFICE
Georgiev dealt for pic(s)

Next year Kravtsov, Lundkvist and Miller graduate
Maybe ...

 

[Leetch3]

Based on what happened before the Vegas expansion where no teams were able to make any trades, I doubt they want to wait that long

are you sure about that? vegas expansion draft was 6/21/17...montreal/tb traded drouin for sergachev on 6/15/17

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Larry Brooks told me that Strome is going to Columbus for Josh Andersson +

KZB
Bread - Lindholm - Kakko
LAF - Chytil - J Andersson
Lemmy - Howden - GOAT
#13 UFA VET CHEAP

Dunn - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Hajek/Reuanen - Smith
Staal

Shesty
UFA

Hank => FRONT OFFICE
Georgiev dealt for pic(s)

Next year Kravtsov, Lunkvist and Miller graduate
Maybe ...

What, uh...

What happened to Zibanejad?

EDIT: NVM, I'm blind.

 

[Polar Bear]

Eichel is the furthest thing from the problem in Buffalo, but he is due monster money, which is why I would not trade Laf for him. Those years on the ELC and building to the big deal is so important for us. If Dahlin is a possibility, then I think legitimate discussions can be had. That being said, I am just in the take Laf camp. Aside from his immense talent, the way he approaches the game, and the contract stuff, I think there is just something special having a number 1 overall player of that caliber be drafted and developed from the very start.

 

[DutchShamrock]

So one of the questions I asked about ADA was whether Calgary would have hesitation because it doesn't necessarily jump out as a permanent home for a kid from South Jersey.

The response that I got (and it backs up comments by the person I met on Friday night who works in the Western Conference) is that it would not be an issue. ADA has at least three years to go before he's an UFA (assuming someone doesn't buy his first year of eligibility), and that gives a team like Calgary plenty of time to get use out of him while their core is in its prime.

If it doesn't look like he wants to stay in three years time, they potentially have themselves one of the hottest TDL commodities on the market.

But the general consensus is that getting someone like ADA would take an already dangerous Calgary forward group and spread some of that danger to the blue line.

And they are basically guaranteed to shake up that forward group. Plenty of reports that they were disappointed with the top line of Gaudreau, Monahan and Lindholm in the playoffs.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

What, uh...

What happened to Zibanejad?

First line KZB!

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Larry Brooks told me that Strome is going to Columbus for Josh Andersson +

KZB
Bread - Lindholm - Kakko
LAF - Chytil - J Andersson (signs for 2 years)
Lemmy - Howden - GOAT
#13 UFA VET CHEAP

Dunn - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Hajek/Reuanen - Smith
Staal

Shesty
UFA VET like Howard on the cheap (signs for 2 years)

Hank => FRONT OFFICE
Georgiev dealt for pic(s)

Next year Kravtsov, Lunkvist and Miller graduate
Maybe ...

Interesting! What's the + though?

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

First line KZB!

My bad. Eyes passed right over the abbreviated first line.

 

[Leetch3]

What are you adding?

start with suzuki and a 1st just to get the convo rolling lol

 

[NYR Viper]

are you sure about that? vegas expansion draft was 6/21/17...montreal/tb traded drouin for sergachev on 6/15/17

If you look at teams like Minnesota and Anaheim, etc who needed to make deals, they just couldn’t find reliable trade partners that were worth it. So they paid Vegas to take certain players. That’s been proven to not be a good route

 

[DutchShamrock]

You're probably right that the team isn't particularly eager to open up a hole on the RW but based on the information flowing around it seems like they're exploring options that would mitigate that loss. Adding Lindholm allows Strome to move to the RW if there isn't a market for him or Lindholm himself can play that role in the short term. Granlund as a UFA is a RW option. Talks about moving Kreider to the right seem to also indicate that the Rangers feel they have an internal option as well.

It certainly seems like the Rangers have a lot of balls in the air. Things ranging from big swaps to minor tweaks to bargain bin shopping. If they trade Buch I'm confident they feel like they can mitigate the impact in some way.

I agree 100%. I just wanted to have full disclosure since I've been vocal about keep Buch and I know people are invested in all my opinions.

 

[NYR Viper]

I’m still interested in a veteran 3rd or 4th line forward from somewhere. Someone who can fill a role for a few years if possible.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

I’m still interested in a veteran 3rd or 4th line forward from somewhere. Someone who can fill a role for a few years if possible.

Is that in addition to keeping Fast or could Fast be that player? Also depending on how Laff progresses Kreider could find himself on that 3rd line just due to quality depth on the LW.

 

[NYR Viper]

You're probably right that the team isn't particularly eager to open up a hole on the RW but based on the information flowing around it seems like they're exploring options that would mitigate that loss. Adding Lindholm allows Strome to move to the RW if there isn't a market for him or Lindholm himself can play that role in the short term. Granlund as a UFA is a RW option. Talks about moving Kreider to the right seem to also indicate that the Rangers feel they have an internal option as well.

It certainly seems like the Rangers have a lot of balls in the air. Things ranging from big swaps to minor tweaks to bargain bin shopping. If they trade Buch I'm confident they feel like they can mitigate the impact in some way.

Also, Gorton is still building so even if he opens up a hole at RW to fill center, that may not mean he’s done even if he can’t solve it by game 1. Kaako and Kravtsov are probably #2 and #3 prospects (if you consider Kaako still a prospect) and both play RW. Along with Gauthier, Lemieux(who can play RW) and Barron(who can play either wing). So long term the organization has depth at that position. It’s similar to RD going in to last year honestly where they had ADA who was not yet proven, Fox coming out of school and Lundqvist and Keane. They proceeded to move Pionk and bring in Trouba

 

[bbny]

Any interest in Max Domi for DeAngelo? Both RFA. Solid 2c with an edge. Montreal has Weber and Petry on the right side but Petry is 32 and UFA next year. Could be a good hockey trade for both teams.

I'm interested in Domi, but not for DeAngelo. It doesn't sound like the Rangers have any interest in Domi though. Time to squash that idea.

 

[charliemurphy]

Is that in addition to keeping Fast or could Fast be that player? Also depending on how Laff progresses Kreider could find himself on that 3rd line just due to quality depth on the LW.

Lol, I think Kreider became the 3rd line LW the night that ball dropped. When does that L-NTC kick in?

 

[NYR Viper]

Is that in addition to keeping Fast or could Fast be that player? Also depending on how Laff progresses Kreider could find himself on that 3rd line just due to quality depth on the LW.

I’d be happy with Fast but I think he’ll be too expensive. Ideally, Kreider goes to RW and they can find a veteran or two to help fill roles. Honestly, I bet that Nosek and trading for Reaves would cost almost the same total cap hit as what Fast receives.

 

[charliemurphy]

I'm interested in Domi, but not for DeAngelo. It doesn't sound like the Rangers have any interest in Domi though. Time to squash that idea.

Agreed. Now, Danault would be someone I’d consider trading for.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Lol, I think Kreider became the 3rd line LW the night that ball dropped. When does that L-NTC kick in?

Lol. I think Quinn will make Laff earn a top 6 spot. If he's as good as its been stated before the end of next season Laff could be on the 2nd line.

 

[Ola]

I know we liked him for a while and that it’s not only based on a limited viewing, but I just want to raise a little finger of caution regarding Elias Lindholm and that is that he was one of the players that skated hard the the entire pause and it showed a lot when play resumed.