Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LIX

[NYSPORTS]

There is no way Buffalo moves Eichel and does not take 6-8 million back. If they think otherwise, Eichel will not move.

read the link. It’s scary. They are moving out salary and will want a ton of cheap prospects for an Eichel. Why wouldn’t they?

 

[NYSPORTS]

I laid out how to make it work. You just move others to create space.

you made it work short term lol. There is a bigger picture here and most of us know this. Com’on lol

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

He's pretty bad. Most 1C's are tbh.

We have a 1C who's pretty good at it!

We have a 1C who needs a new big fat contract when he's 29 in 2 years (which I don't want Gorton negotiating tbh) and as you said the other day, has a semi-serious injury once a year already

 

[Trxjw]

If this were true, the Rangers may be THE ONLY team in the NHL that could make that work financially.

I'm sure there are a few teams that might be willing to bite the bullet for a talent like that. Especially when you consider Eichel's bonus has been paid this year and he's not on a heavily bonus-laden contract. He only has one more SB remaining on his deal.

That being said, asking any owner to commit to $50m in salary during this climate is probably a very tall order.

 

[Machinehead]

We have a 1C who needs a new big fat contract when he's 29 in 2 years (which I don't want Gorton negotiating tbh) and as you said the other day, has a semi-serious injury once a year already

Cross that bridge later.

If Zibanejad continues to play at a high level and really takes the reigns the next two years, and this team begins to contend, it's gonna suck to let him walk out the door.

 

[Boris Zubov]

I can't see the Sabres trading Eichel just yet. They paid him a salary bonus of $7.5M on July 1st, so he's only owed $2.5M for the upcoming season. Given the Pegula's financial situation & internal cap constraints, they're not going to want to shell out more cash for the players they acquire in any deal. E.g., the estimated $9-10M in real dollars that ADA & Buch would be paid, plus anyone else included in the deal. Feels like this discussion should be tabled until the 20-21 offseason, whenever that might be.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Breaking news: Rangers should not have given Kreider that contract. Should have traded him for a haul at last deadline.

that’s the signing which is messing this up. Adding Kreider and winning the lottery changed everything.

Honestly, this budget was flirting with no Kreider and no lottery win to . . . big Kreider money, lottery win and big money down the and big money Eichel?

Tight.

 

[huerter]

No one is saying you can't make it fit for 2020 with Eichel in the lineup. We're saying it's not responsible to trade a bunch of young assets for a 10 million dollar contract because it will make our salary structure top heavy as hell and moving forward is guaranteed to be an issue.

 

[huerter]

that’s the signing which is messing this up. Adding Kreider and winning the lottery changed everything.

Honestly, this budget was flirting with no Kreider and no lottery win to . . . big Kreider money, lottery win and big money down the and big money Eichel?


No way this works

How could you say this in real life when Trouba exists?

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Cross that bridge later.

If Zibanejad continues to play at a high level and really takes the reigns the next two years, and this team begins to contend, it's gonna suck to let him walk out the door.

Which is why, even though it might be a lateral move in terms of the on ice product for the next season or two, trading for Eichel could make a whole lot of sense

 

[Rangers in 7]

Are we talking about the same jack eichel that just put up 78 points in 68 games with one of the worst teams in the nhl? Who is also a star center in this league at 23 years old? Because if we are then some of you people are out of your damn minds

 

[NYSPORTS]

How could you say this in real life when Trouba exists?

Trouba and Panarin were signed before the Kreider, lottery win and this Eichel talk.

If this was yesteryear, yeah, the Rangers could have a huge payroll. Not anymore

 

[Off Sides]

Hopefully if it comes to that, you dump Kreider.

username to GoAwayKreider

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

username to GoAwayKreider

That’s definitely more of my lane than @GoAwayStaal ‘s

 

[Ghost of jas]

I'm sure there are a few teams that might be willing to bite the bullet for a talent like that. Especially when you consider Eichel's bonus has been paid this year and he's not on a heavily bonus-laden contract. He only has one more SB remaining on his deal.

That being said, asking any owner to commit to $50m in salary during this climate is probably a very tall order.

But, how many of those teams have both the assets and the cap space to make such a deal?

 

[Avery16]

read the link. It’s scary. They are moving out salary and will want a ton of cheap prospects for an Eichel. Why wouldn’t they?

Then they will not move him.

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

If Sather was still GM, you know we would be getting Eichel 100%. Ole' Glen couldn't help himself.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

To me Ottawa is the only team id see being able to make a move for Eichel, they have a ton of draft picks, a ton of young players and a ton of cap space.

 

[Vitto79]

To me Ottawa is the only team id see being able to make a move for Eichel, they have a ton of draft picks, a ton of young players and a ton of cap space.

He wouldn’t want to go to Ottawa

 

[charliemurphy]

Kreider’s clauses on his new contract most likely went into effect the moment he signed the extension, which is pretty standard for this kind of situation. The NMC has been in place since February.

Then not sure what Blue Lines Nation is publishing. They reported the tidbit on the Return to Play rules that I didn’t know about until I read it. According to them, his NMC kicks in on 10/9. And again, I’m someone that isn’t sold on trading for Eichel. For me, a lot would depend on what is going to Buffalo in the form of salary.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

He wouldn’t want to go to Ottawa

Maybe, maybe he's that sick of Buffalo that a young team with room to grow is appealing to him. I really don't see any reason to believe Buffalo will be better than Ottawa in 3 years outside of Eichel himself.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

username to GoAwayKreider

Nah Kreider's actually worth his contract.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

To me Ottawa is the only team id see being able to make a move for Eichel, they have a ton of draft picks, a ton of young players and a ton of cap space.

and they have a very cheap owner so he's not going there.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

and they have a very cheap owner so he's not going there.

Honestly might be better than his rich owner who tries to throw money at everything

 

[Off Sides]

That’s definitely more of my lane than @GoAwayStaal ‘s

I don't even dislike Kreider.

I just have trouble with the bigger picture stuff, it still seems like the Rangers are building two separate teams. One which is drafted recently and will need new more extensive contract soon, and a different one where they signed/extended players who are going to leave their prime before the younger enter their primes.

While I think someone like Eichel, even at his cap hit could help bridge that gap, it also seems like the cap allocation already spent on some of those older guys hurts that reconciliation process.

I don't know, something like two different GMs, one who controls the sell/draft build process and another who is trying to keep them competitive and I'm not sure if those two camps can meet where it end up with awesomeness.

I feel like there are always going to be contracts, not just one, that the Rangers would like to get rid of in order to make the team better, yet they just can not get rid of them when the timing is right. That never ending process kind of drives me crazy, because I think that timing could end up in a cohesive maybe even great team if they would just let it play out. I always feel like they are a year ahead in thinking they'll be good and that turns into a a step back by not waiting for it.