Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LIX

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[Polar Bear]

Tyler Seguin

I am not for this trade really, but this isn’t really close. Eichel is a far greater talent than Seguin was at the time of his trade.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Depending on how the Lundqvist situation plays out:

• Trade ADA for Lindholm
• Strome to Ottawa for #33 and #60
• Trade #33 and a D prospect like Hajek for Dunn
• Sign Dillon for 3x$4MM.

Don't go crazy for Eichel.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

I’m glad the Finals will be over soon. We have one week until the draft. I’m sure this week is going to be very hectic, with regards to the league as a whole at least.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

The Rangers have put them in a position to pull off a trade like this, the question is would Buffalo demand one of Kakko or Laf in any deal.

 

[May Rih]

I am not for this trade really, but this isn’t really close. Eichel is a far greater talent than Seguin was at the time of his trade.

Tyler Seguin

Honestly, I didn't think we'd get anything remotely close, so I'm impressed there's at a past example somewhat comparable.

But as you already noted, using that as an example for trade package comparison purposes here is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Polar Bear]

The Rangers have put them in a position to pull off a trade like this, the question is would Buffalo demand one of Kakko or Laf in any deal.

I’m not doing it man. With the cap being as it is, trading great young talent on ELCs is going to really hurt you more than what you might gain. And that’s aside from the cost just to get Eichel.

 

[aufheben]

The Rangers have put them in a position to pull off a trade like this, the question is would Buffalo demand one of Kakko or Laf in any deal.

They can demand whatever they want, but I seriously doubt Gorton would agree to that.

Cant we just develop our own stars for once?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Just a reminder...1OA Taylor Hall was traded for Adam Larson. That may be an outlier, and Eichel is likely the better player, but figured I’d throw in a little historical perspective.

 

[MarkMessyay11]

The Rangers have put them in a position to pull off a trade like this, the question is would Buffalo demand one of Kakko or Laf in any deal.

Probably...which is why we're talking about it here and not in a "Confirmed with Link" thread.

I do agree with your first point. Gorton has put himself in a position to go after pretty much any player that becomes available now. It's great to collect picks and prospects at the clip we've been doing so over the past couple of seasons. But pretty soon they become redundant and it reaches the point where consolidation is almost a necessity if you want to take that next step.

 

[aufheben]

Players of Eichel’s caliber rarely get traded to begin with, but plenty of very good players do and the package is almost never equal value.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Cant we just develop our own stars for once?

I just want to win the Cup. Whether it’s from homegrown stars or not, I want the best possible team with the best chance for long term success.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Just a reminder...1OA Taylor Hall was traded for Adam Larson. That may be an outlier, and Eichel is likely the better player, but figured I’d throw in a little historical perspective.

That's definitely an outlier

 

[FireGerardGallant]

They can demand whatever they want, but I seriously doubt Gorton would agree to that.

Cant we just develop our own stars for once?

I trust Gorton to not deal one of the younger stars on elcs (Kakko, Laf, Fox, Igor). But we do have an extremely deep farm an extra first this year and young guys like Deangelo and Georgiev who are expendable. If anyone could make Buffalo a really strong offer it’s probably us.

 

[aufheben]

I just want to win the Cup. Whether it’s from homegrown stars or not, I want the best possible team with the best chance for long term success.

I want fun. And considering this team’s history, maybe that way would end up giving us the best chance anyway.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I am not for this trade really, but this isn’t really close. Eichel is a far greater talent than Seguin was at the time of his trade.

It's the closest example that exists in recent memory but yeah, there really isn't a comparable that really fits for several reasons.

 

[May Rih]

Just a reminder...1OA Taylor Hall was traded for Adam Larson. That may be an outlier, and Eichel is likely the better player, but figured I’d throw in a little historical perspective.

Yeah, so far the two closest recent examples we've seen are Hall and Seguin...which really aren't that great of comparisons and certainly don't show anything resembling fair value that will help us in these exercises.

 

[Savant]

Depending on how the Lundqvist situation plays out:

• Trade ADA for Lindholm
• Strome to Ottawa for #33 and #60
• Trade #33 and a D prospect like Hajek for Dunn
• Sign Dillon for 3x$4MM.

Don't go crazy for Eichel.

Don’t think ADA is a centerpiece for Lindholm. Think the player they have been connected to must is Buchnevich.

Don’t think Dunn is on the block if Pietrangelo is leaving.

Don’t like giving three years to Dillion and having to protect him.

Don’t like going for Eichel unless Trouba is in the deal.

Do like the Strome trade

 

[MysticLeviathan]

I want fun.

Fun is having a real life video game roster.

Just my humble opinion, of course.

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

Just a reminder...1OA Taylor Hall was traded for Adam Larson. That may be an outlier, and Eichel is likely the better player, but figured I’d throw in a little historical perspective.

that was an absurd outlier. Chiarelli is Chiarelli....

 

[aufheben]

I trust Gorton to not deal one of the younger stars on elcs (Kakko, Laf, Fox, Igor). But we do have an extremely deep farm an extra first this year and young guys like Deangelo and Georgiev who are expendable. If anyone could make Buffalo a really strong offer it’s probably us.

I mean if a player like Eichel ever becomes available, you wouldn’t be doing your job if you didn’t put an offer in, but this isn’t a player we should obsess over. It’s not even confirmed he wants out of Buffalo.

We need a #2C.

 

[bl02]

Just a reminder...1OA Taylor Hall was traded for Adam Larson. That may be an outlier, and Eichel is likely the better player, but figured I’d throw in a little historical perspective.

I know he won the MVP but Taylor Hall isn't on the same level as Eichel just my opinion.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Just a reminder...1OA Taylor Hall was traded for Adam Larson. That may be an outlier, and Eichel is likely the better player, but figured I’d throw in a little historical perspective.

Also worth noting though, Hall is a winger, Eichel is a center and centers tend to hold more trade value.

 

[Savant]

I know he won the MVP but Taylor Hall isn't on the same level as Eichel just my opinion.

MacKinnon got robbed that year. Probably got robbed this year too.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Don’t think ADA is a centerpiece for Lindholm. Think the player they have been connected to must is Buchnevich.

Don’t think Dunn is on the block if Pietrangelo is leaving.

Don’t like giving three years to Dillion and having to protect him.

Don’t like going for Eichel unless Trouba is in the deal.

Do like the Strome trade

Can't see Buch being the piece going back for Lindholm unless there is a pretty decent secondary piece going back.

Dillon I would hope Gorton wouldn't give a NMC.