Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LIV

[DanielBrassard]

Or he could be left side version of Dougie Hamilton.

Good enough to bridge gaps, young enough to be intriguing, and possibly looking at his fourth NHL club at the age of 27.

Dougie Hamilton is and was just a bit better than Hanifin throughout their careers, a by a little I mean a shit ton. I think Hanifin would be closer to a LH Brady Skjei, so in essence, Brady Skjei.

 

[Leetch3]

Hanifin and Lindholm for Buch and ADA just doesn't do it for me even if it "fits the needs" better. Rather just ago after a LHD like Dunn than acquire Hanifin.

I like Dunn especially if we are getting him at a good price cause the blues can't protect him (which might mean they move him next summer not now) while also creating our own protection issues (if ADA isn't moved)...age is great, lots of potential...BUT he's known more of an offensive dman. so is he the type of dman that we are looking for to balance and round out the blue line?

talent is talent so I still like the idea...and if ADA is being moved for a center, then replacing some of his skating/puck moving ability on the left side certainly isn't a bad thing. but is he the 'right fit'?

 

[DanielBrassard]

I like Dunn especially if we are getting him at a good price cause the blues can't protect him (which might mean they move him next summer not now) while also creating our own protection issues (if ADA isn't moved)...age is great, lots of potential...BUT he's known more of an offensive dman. so is he the type of dman that we are looking for to balance and round out the blue line?

talent is talent so I still like the idea...and if ADA is being moved for a center, then replacing some of his skating/puck moving ability on the left side certainly isn't a bad thing. but is he the 'right fit'?

It's an interesting question. I suppose in the Rangers mind if they are moving ADA and replacing him with another smaller puck-moving defenseman who can play LD then it's not a big issue.

 

[Edge]

Full NMC according to Brooks (I asked)

Yeah, he ain't going to Winnipeg.

 

[egelband]

I like Dunn especially if we are getting him at a good price cause the blues can't protect him (which might mean they move him next summer not now) while also creating our own protection issues (if ADA isn't moved)...age is great, lots of potential...BUT he's known more of an offensive dman. so is he the type of dman that we are looking for to balance and round out the blue line?

talent is talent so I still like the idea...and if ADA is being moved for a center, then replacing some of his skating/puck moving ability on the left side certainly isn't a bad thing. but is he the 'right fit'?

Good point. I guess the trade would just have to be assessed in a vacuum. But I agree, I want a defense-first defender paired with Trouba.

 

[Edge]

Dougie Hamilton is and was just a bit better than Hanifin throughout their careers, a by a little I mean a shit ton. I think Hanifin would be closer to a LH Brady Skjei, so in essence, Brady Skjei.

I meant more in the journeyman mold who is never quite out of demand, but never quite seems to find a home despite the pedigree and level of interest in him.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'd categorize Dunn more as a 2 way D rather than an offensive D.

 

[Edge]

I like Dunn especially if we are getting him at a good price cause the blues can't protect him (which might mean they move him next summer not now) while also creating our own protection issues (if ADA isn't moved)...age is great, lots of potential...BUT he's known more of an offensive dman. so is he the type of dman that we are looking for to balance and round out the blue line?

talent is talent so I still like the idea...and if ADA is being moved for a center, then replacing some of his skating/puck moving ability on the left side certainly isn't a bad thing. but is he the 'right fit'?

Eh, yes and no on the style/role aspect.

In that regard I think he's closer to a Josh Morrissey than he is someone I'd really classify as an "offensive defenseman" per se.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I meant more in the journeyman mold who is never quite out of demand, but never quite seems to find a home despite the pedigree and level of interest in him.

I see.

 

[bobbop]

Something to think about...Calgary 18th ranked power play, Vegas 25th. Both could use power play help.

 

[aufheben]

@Edge would you mind posting a synopsis of your posts today? Looked at your post history and you’ve already posted like 100 times today.

You know, just any tidbits regarding the Rangers, potential trades, draft board stuff, rumors.

 

[bl02]

Something to think about...Calgary 18th ranked power play, Vegas 25th. Both could use power play help.

vegas can use a lot of help right now. I am one of the guilty ones who really overrated them.

 

[Edge]

@Edge would you mind posting a synopsis of your posts today? Looked at your post history and you’ve already posted like 100 times today.

You know, just any tidbits regarding the Rangers, potential trades, draft board stuff, rumors.

Fine, I'll just share my private newsletter as a gesture of goodwill (and the result of 10 bottles of wine) with the board:

Roster

• No real concrete movement with ADA at this time. The Rangers are leaning toward a two-year deal to buy time until Lundkvist can come over and challenge. There is interest in ADA around the league should he become available. Rangers don’t plan to shop him, but he’s not an automatic “no.”
• Trepidation about trading Buch because the right wing has a lot of question marks right now. Like ADA, if he’s moved it is expected to be for an NHL roster player, not for a package of futures.
• Strome is definitely someone who will be shopped as the Rangers gauge his value around the league.
• Rangers still very interested in Lindholm and think he’d do just fine as a center. Not sure if ADA + Buch for Lindholm and Hanifin is an option. Think the talent is a good match, but feel the deal may be “too big” for both teams at this point.
• Belief is that Strome, ADA and Buch is the most likely order if players were to be moved.
• No desire to move a RHD to the left side for a prolonged period of time.
• Hesitation to move Smith based on his utility player status. Think the Rangers would prefer to hold onto him when the season begins.
• Georgiev will definitely be a topic of conversation with other teams in the coming weeks. Rangers asking price is a bottom six forward or a moderately high second round pick. Thinks Chicago, Edmonton, Nashville and Toronto are all potential suitors.
• Belief is Lundqvist’s time in NY is over: 50/50 on him retiring.
• Vince Dunn very much on the Rangers radar as a potential partner for Trouba.
• Jonas Brodin is another name that has come up multiple times as being a player of interest.
• Domi not really a player of interest at this time. Dylan Strome not really a player of interest at this time.
• Cirelli would be of interest to the Rangers, though they think he stays in Tampa.

Prospects/Young Players

• Andersson will be shopped and there’s decent interest in him around the league. Belief is that he’s probably done as a Ranger. Just a matter of finding the right deal.
• Preference is not to move Lemieux at this time, but he’s not an automatic no either. Ditto for Howden.
• Hajek likely to be a piece the Rangers are willing to part with to make an upgrade.
• Front office is very high on Barron and Reunanen and expect both to make serious challenges for the team.

Draft

• A few nibbles on the top pick. LA and Ottawa definitely pinged them, but it doesn’t appear there was any serious conversation. Think Buffalo is a dark horse to make a bold offer. I’ll adjust the odds of the Rangers getting blown away by an offer to the lower end of my original statement - 10 percent.
• Not actively looking to add a second round pick, but there are several potential deals that could land them one (Georgiev, Strome, etc.)
• Rangers really love Sanderson and Lundell, but doesn’t think either will be in range to trade for. Both were the top candidates for the Rangers original draft position.
• Byfield is second on their list over Stutzle. Holtz is fourth on the Rangers list.
• I’m fairly confident their top 10 is Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Holtz, Sanderson, Lundell, Drysdale, Rossi, Perfetti and Raymond.
• Players they really like – Guhle, Holloway, Lapierre, Greig, Khusnutdinov and Amirov.
• Seth Jarvis is liked, though not seen as being on the board or close to a move-up scenario. They love the energy and the approach and think it will be carry him to a top six role in the NHL --- though maybe not in the express lane.
• Mercer is liked but the group I was with had differing opinions on his offensive upside. Some think he’s a very good third line player in the Holloway and Greig mold. Some see him as a top six option. The offensive decline post-trade is potentially going to bite him in the ass. Like Holloway, there’s an intrigue about having him at center.
• Holloway is the mystery box for a lot of teams. General belief is that most teams will want to send him to the WHL (even if COVID didn’t happen). Also concern that he’s an older birthday who will only get one WHL season before having to be an over-ager. “You have to be sure you can get him on the right path next year, and that he’ll be ready for the AHL the following year.” Someone floated the idea that Europe might actually be a good option for him.
• A lot of high praise for Greig. Makes me suspect that his ranking on McKenzie’s list might have owed at least a little to the Rangers saying “We would take this guy at 24.” They think he’s a guy that would’ve fit right into the last Rangers era, but would have the benefit of being surrounded by legit elite-level talent.
• Guhle is a kid they like a lot and think his upside is right up there with Drysdale and Sanderson. “He’s not as put together as those two right now though.” I think he was a dark horse candidate for the Rangers original pick if Lundell and Sanderson weren’t on the board.
• Love the skill level and upside of Lapierre. The injuries are a concern for the team, but not necessarily a deal breaker. I got the impression he would be a serious consideration if he was on the board at 22. Feeling is he might not slide past Montreal or Ottawa.
• Amirov is seen as a steady, two-way player whose offensive upside is severely underrated. They feel like he’s a kid winning teams have and the type who can you pair with just about anyone on your roster. He’s probably at least 2-3 years off from the NHL, but they think he can be a kid who comes in a number of different roles.
• Khusnutdinov is a kid who will definitely be under consideration at 22, especially depending on how the board breaks. Size not a huge concern for the Rangers, but there is some question as to whether the hands will match the feet and the energy at the higher levels. That factor could be the difference between a second line forward and more of a third line energy guy. He’s another one is a bit of a mystery box for teams.
• I got the impression that Bourque and Mysak, though liked, aren’t quite on the same level as other names for the Rangers.
• Perrault and Gunler are divisive. Talent is liked, the personalities have sparked debate.
• Group was somewhat divided on the interest level in Peterson and Cuylle. Overall a lukewarm reaction to Peterson, but more open to Cuylle.
• Blake Biondi is a kid who has generated interest and a longer look within the Rangers organization.

 

[aufheben]

Fine, I'll just share my private newsletter as a gesture of goodwill with the board:

Roster

• No real concrete movement with ADA at this time. The Rangers are leaning toward a two-year deal to buy time until Lundkvist can come over and challenge. There is interest in ADA around the league should he become available. Rangers don’t plan to shop him, but he’s not an automatic “no.”
• Trepidation about trading Buch because the right wing has a lot of question marks right now. Like ADA, if he’s moved it is expected to be for an NHL roster player, not for a package of futures.
• Strome is definitely someone who will be shopped as the Rangers gauge his value around the league.
• Rangers still very interested in Lindholm and think he’d do just fine as a center. Not sure if ADA + Buch for Lindholm and Hanifin is an option. Think the talent is a good match, but feel the deal may be “too big” for both teams at this point.
• Belief is that Strome, ADA and Buch is the most likely order if players were to be moved.
• No desire to move a RHD to the left side for a prolonged period of time.
• Hesitation to move Smith based on his utility player status. Think the Rangers would prefer to hold onto him when the season begins.
• Georgiev will definitely be a topic of conversation with other teams in the coming weeks. Rangers asking price is a bottom six forward or a moderately high second round pick. Thinks Chicago, Edmonton, Nashville and Toronto are all potential suitors.
• Belief is Lundqvist’s time in NY is over: 50/50 on him retiring.
• Vince Dunn very much on the Rangers radar as a potential partner for Trouba.
• Jonas Brodin is another name that has come up multiple times as being a player of interest.
• Domi not really a player of interest at this time. Dylan Strome not really a player of interest at this time.
• Cirelli would be of interest to the Rangers, though they think he stays in Tampa.

Prospects/Young Players

• Andersson will be shopped and there’s decent interest in him around the league. Belief is that he’s probably done as a Ranger. Just a matter of finding the right deal.
• Preference is not to move Lemieux at this time, but he’s not an automatic no either. Ditto for Howden.
• Hajek likely to be a piece the Rangers are willing to part with to make an upgrade.
• Front office is very high on Barron and Reunanen and expect both to make serious challenges for the team.

Draft

• A few nibbles on the top pick. LA and Ottawa definitely pinged them, but it doesn’t appear there was any serious conversation. Think Buffalo is a dark horse to make a bold offer. I’ll adjust the odds of the Rangers getting blown away by an offer to the lower end of my original statement - 10 percent.
• Not actively looking to add a second round pick, but there are several potential deals that could land them one (Georgiev, Strome, etc.)
• Rangers really love Sanderson and Lundell, but doesn’t think either will be in range to trade for. Both were the top candidates for the Rangers original draft position.
• Byfield is second on their list over Stutzle. Holtz is fourth on the Rangers list.
• I’m fairly confident their top 10 is Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Holtz, Sanderson, Lundell, Drysdale, Rossi, Perfetti and Raymond.
• Players they really like – Guhle, Holloway, Lapierre, Greig, Khusnutdinov and Amirov.
• Seth Jarvis is liked, though not seen as being on the board or close to a move-up scenario. They love the energy and the approach and think it will be carry him to a top six role in the NHL --- though maybe not in the express lane.
• Mercer is liked but the group I was with had differing opinions on his offensive upside. Some think he’s a very good third line player in the Holloway and Greig mold. Some see him as a top six option. The offensive decline post-trade is potentially going to bite him in the ass. Like Holloway, there’s an intrigue about having him at center.
• Holloway is the mystery box for a lot of teams. General belief is that most teams will want to send him to the WHL (even if COVID didn’t happen). Also concern that he’s an older birthday who will only get one WHL season before having to be an over-ager. “You have to be sure you can get him on the right path next year, and that he’ll be ready for the AHL the following year.” Someone floated the idea that Europe might actually be a good option for him.
• A lot of high praise for Greig. Makes me suspect that his ranking on McKenzie’s list might have owed at least a little to the Rangers saying “We would take this guy at 24.” They think he’s a guy that would’ve fit right into the last Rangers era, but would have the benefit of being surrounded by legit elite-level talent.
• Guhle is a kid they like a lot and think his upside is right up there with Drysdale and Sanderson. “He’s not as put together as those two right now though.” I think he was a dark horse candidate for the Rangers original pick if Lundell and Sanderson weren’t on the board.
• Love the skill level and upside of Lapierre. The injuries are a concern for the team, but not necessarily a deal breaker. I got the impression he would be a serious consideration if he was on the board at 22. Feeling is he might not slide past Montreal or Ottawa.
• Amirov is seen as a steady, two-way player whose offensive upside is severely underrated. They feel like he’s a kid winning teams have and the type who can you pair with just about anyone on your roster. He’s probably at least 2-3 years off from the NHL, but they think he can be a kid who comes in a number of different roles.
• Khusnutdinov is a kid who will definitely be under consideration at 22, especially depending on how the board breaks. Size not a huge concern for the Rangers, but there is some question as to whether the hands will match the feet and the energy at the higher levels. That factor could be the difference between a second line forward and more of a third line energy guy. He’s another one is a bit of a mystery box for teams.
• I got the impression that Bourque and Mysak, though liked, aren’t quite on the same level as other names for the Rangers.
• Perrault and Gunler are divisive. Talent is liked, the personalities have sparked debate.
• Group was somewhat divided on the interest level in Peterson and Cuylle. Overall a lukewarm reaction to Peterson, but more open to Cuylle.
• Blake Biondi is a kid who has generated interest and a longer look within the Rangers organization.

Man this board would take such a huge hit if you ever decided to leave. Thank you, seriously.

 

[Irishguy42]

• Vince Dunn very much on the Rangers radar as a potential partner for Trouba.

• Jonas Brodin is another name that has come up multiple times as being a player of interest.

Been preaching this for a while.

Would love to see it.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Fine, I'll just share my private newsletter as a gesture of goodwill (and the result of 10 bottles of wine) with the board:

Roster

• No real concrete movement with ADA at this time. The Rangers are leaning toward a two-year deal to buy time until Lundkvist can come over and challenge. There is interest in ADA around the league should he become available. Rangers don’t plan to shop him, but he’s not an automatic “no.”
• Trepidation about trading Buch because the right wing has a lot of question marks right now. Like ADA, if he’s moved it is expected to be for an NHL roster player, not for a package of futures.
• Strome is definitely someone who will be shopped as the Rangers gauge his value around the league.
• Rangers still very interested in Lindholm and think he’d do just fine as a center. Not sure if ADA + Buch for Lindholm and Hanifin is an option. Think the talent is a good match, but feel the deal may be “too big” for both teams at this point.
• Belief is that Strome, ADA and Buch is the most likely order if players were to be moved.
• No desire to move a RHD to the left side for a prolonged period of time.
• Hesitation to move Smith based on his utility player status. Think the Rangers would prefer to hold onto him when the season begins.
• Georgiev will definitely be a topic of conversation with other teams in the coming weeks. Rangers asking price is a bottom six forward or a moderately high second round pick. Thinks Chicago, Edmonton, Nashville and Toronto are all potential suitors.
• Belief is Lundqvist’s time in NY is over: 50/50 on him retiring.
• Vince Dunn very much on the Rangers radar as a potential partner for Trouba.
• Jonas Brodin is another name that has come up multiple times as being a player of interest.
• Domi not really a player of interest at this time. Dylan Strome not really a player of interest at this time.
• Cirelli would be of interest to the Rangers, though they think he stays in Tampa.

Prospects/Young Players

• Andersson will be shopped and there’s decent interest in him around the league. Belief is that he’s probably done as a Ranger. Just a matter of finding the right deal.
• Preference is not to move Lemieux at this time, but he’s not an automatic no either. Ditto for Howden.
• Hajek likely to be a piece the Rangers are willing to part with to make an upgrade.
• Front office is very high on Barron and Reunanen and expect both to make serious challenges for the team.

Draft

• A few nibbles on the top pick. LA and Ottawa definitely pinged them, but it doesn’t appear there was any serious conversation. Think Buffalo is a dark horse to make a bold offer. I’ll adjust the odds of the Rangers getting blown away by an offer to the lower end of my original statement - 10 percent.
• Not actively looking to add a second round pick, but there are several potential deals that could land them one (Georgiev, Strome, etc.)
• Rangers really love Sanderson and Lundell, but doesn’t think either will be in range to trade for. Both were the top candidates for the Rangers original draft position.
• Byfield is second on their list over Stutzle. Holtz is fourth on the Rangers list.
• I’m fairly confident their top 10 is Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Holtz, Sanderson, Lundell, Drysdale, Rossi, Perfetti and Raymond.
• Players they really like – Guhle, Holloway, Lapierre, Greig, Khusnutdinov and Amirov.
• Seth Jarvis is liked, though not seen as being on the board or close to a move-up scenario. They love the energy and the approach and think it will be carry him to a top six role in the NHL --- though maybe not in the express lane.
• Mercer is liked but the group I was with had differing opinions on his offensive upside. Some think he’s a very good third line player in the Holloway and Greig mold. Some see him as a top six option. The offensive decline post-trade is potentially going to bite him in the ass. Like Holloway, there’s an intrigue about having him at center.
• Holloway is the mystery box for a lot of teams. General belief is that most teams will want to send him to the WHL (even if COVID didn’t happen). Also concern that he’s an older birthday who will only get one WHL season before having to be an over-ager. “You have to be sure you can get him on the right path next year, and that he’ll be ready for the AHL the following year.” Someone floated the idea that Europe might actually be a good option for him.
• A lot of high praise for Greig. Makes me suspect that his ranking on McKenzie’s list might have owed at least a little to the Rangers saying “We would take this guy at 24.” They think he’s a guy that would’ve fit right into the last Rangers era, but would have the benefit of being surrounded by legit elite-level talent.
• Guhle is a kid they like a lot and think his upside is right up there with Drysdale and Sanderson. “He’s not as put together as those two right now though.” I think he was a dark horse candidate for the Rangers original pick if Lundell and Sanderson weren’t on the board.
• Love the skill level and upside of Lapierre. The injuries are a concern for the team, but not necessarily a deal breaker. I got the impression he would be a serious consideration if he was on the board at 22. Feeling is he might not slide past Montreal or Ottawa.
• Amirov is seen as a steady, two-way player whose offensive upside is severely underrated. They feel like he’s a kid winning teams have and the type who can you pair with just about anyone on your roster. He’s probably at least 2-3 years off from the NHL, but they think he can be a kid who comes in a number of different roles.
• Khusnutdinov is a kid who will definitely be under consideration at 22, especially depending on how the board breaks. Size not a huge concern for the Rangers, but there is some question as to whether the hands will match the feet and the energy at the higher levels. That factor could be the difference between a second line forward and more of a third line energy guy. He’s another one is a bit of a mystery box for teams.
• I got the impression that Bourque and Mysak, though liked, aren’t quite on the same level as other names for the Rangers.
• Perrault and Gunler are divisive. Talent is liked, the personalities have sparked debate.
• Group was somewhat divided on the interest level in Peterson and Cuylle. Overall a lukewarm reaction to Peterson, but more open to Cuylle.
• Blake Biondi is a kid who has generated interest and a longer look within the Rangers organization.

Um...

How do I get on the list for this "private newsletter" you speak of?

 

[aufheben]

I’m happy to hear the Rangers could be interested in trading Strome and acquiring Dunn, and potentially Brodin.

@Edge your opinion on the cost of Dunn, and the return for Strome?

 

[bobbop]

vegas can use a lot of help right now. I am one of the guilty ones who really overrated them.

Vegas has trouble scoring. They are also a win now team. If they don’t win this year, they will retool and go for it next year. If I look at their team, an offensive minded RHD is the biggest need,

 

[Cag29]

New plan:

DeAngelo for Lindholm

22 overall + Jones for Brodin

Kravtsov + Hajek + 2021 2nd for Dvorak

Strome for Nutivaara + 2021 2nd

Geoergiev to Detroit for 2020 2nd

Fast - $3.5m x 2 years

Bogosian - $2m x 1 year

Lafreniere - Zibanejad - Chytil
Panarin - Lindholm - Kakko
Kreider - Dvorak - Buchnevich
Lemieux - Barron - Fast
Howden - Gauthier

Brodin - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Nutivaara - Bogosian
Smith

Shesterkin
Lundqvist

Replace the bottom pairing with Miller and Lundkvist the following year. Start winning cups...

Sign me up.

 

[Leetch3]

Fine, I'll just share my private newsletter as a gesture of goodwill (and the result of 10 bottles of wine) with the board:

Roster

• No real concrete movement with ADA at this time. The Rangers are leaning toward a two-year deal to buy time until Lundkvist can come over and challenge. There is interest in ADA around the league should he become available. Rangers don’t plan to shop him, but he’s not an automatic “no.”
• Trepidation about trading Buch because the right wing has a lot of question marks right now. Like ADA, if he’s moved it is expected to be for an NHL roster player, not for a package of futures.
• Strome is definitely someone who will be shopped as the Rangers gauge his value around the league.
• Rangers still very interested in Lindholm and think he’d do just fine as a center. Not sure if ADA + Buch for Lindholm and Hanifin is an option. Think the talent is a good match, but feel the deal may be “too big” for both teams at this point.
• Belief is that Strome, ADA and Buch is the most likely order if players were to be moved.
• No desire to move a RHD to the left side for a prolonged period of time.
• Hesitation to move Smith based on his utility player status. Think the Rangers would prefer to hold onto him when the season begins.
• Georgiev will definitely be a topic of conversation with other teams in the coming weeks. Rangers asking price is a bottom six forward or a moderately high second round pick. Thinks Chicago, Edmonton, Nashville and Toronto are all potential suitors.
• Belief is Lundqvist’s time in NY is over: 50/50 on him retiring.
• Vince Dunn very much on the Rangers radar as a potential partner for Trouba.
• Jonas Brodin is another name that has come up multiple times as being a player of interest.
• Domi not really a player of interest at this time. Dylan Strome not really a player of interest at this time.
• Cirelli would be of interest to the Rangers, though they think he stays in Tampa.

Prospects/Young Players

• Andersson will be shopped and there’s decent interest in him around the league. Belief is that he’s probably done as a Ranger. Just a matter of finding the right deal.
• Preference is not to move Lemieux at this time, but he’s not an automatic no either. Ditto for Howden.
• Hajek likely to be a piece the Rangers are willing to part with to make an upgrade.
• Front office is very high on Barron and Reunanen and expect both to make serious challenges for the team.

Draft

• A few nibbles on the top pick. LA and Ottawa definitely pinged them, but it doesn’t appear there was any serious conversation. Think Buffalo is a dark horse to make a bold offer. I’ll adjust the odds of the Rangers getting blown away by an offer to the lower end of my original statement - 10 percent.
• Not actively looking to add a second round pick, but there are several potential deals that could land them one (Georgiev, Strome, etc.)
• Rangers really love Sanderson and Lundell, but doesn’t think either will be in range to trade for. Both were the top candidates for the Rangers original draft position.
• Byfield is second on their list over Stutzle. Holtz is fourth on the Rangers list.
• I’m fairly confident their top 10 is Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Holtz, Sanderson, Lundell, Drysdale, Rossi, Perfetti and Raymond.
• Players they really like – Guhle, Holloway, Lapierre, Greig, Khusnutdinov and Amirov.
• Seth Jarvis is liked, though not seen as being on the board or close to a move-up scenario. They love the energy and the approach and think it will be carry him to a top six role in the NHL --- though maybe not in the express lane.
• Mercer is liked but the group I was with had differing opinions on his offensive upside. Some think he’s a very good third line player in the Holloway and Greig mold. Some see him as a top six option. The offensive decline post-trade is potentially going to bite him in the ass. Like Holloway, there’s an intrigue about having him at center.
• Holloway is the mystery box for a lot of teams. General belief is that most teams will want to send him to the WHL (even if COVID didn’t happen). Also concern that he’s an older birthday who will only get one WHL season before having to be an over-ager. “You have to be sure you can get him on the right path next year, and that he’ll be ready for the AHL the following year.” Someone floated the idea that Europe might actually be a good option for him.
• A lot of high praise for Greig. Makes me suspect that his ranking on McKenzie’s list might have owed at least a little to the Rangers saying “We would take this guy at 24.” They think he’s a guy that would’ve fit right into the last Rangers era, but would have the benefit of being surrounded by legit elite-level talent.
• Guhle is a kid they like a lot and think his upside is right up there with Drysdale and Sanderson. “He’s not as put together as those two right now though.” I think he was a dark horse candidate for the Rangers original pick if Lundell and Sanderson weren’t on the board.
• Love the skill level and upside of Lapierre. The injuries are a concern for the team, but not necessarily a deal breaker. I got the impression he would be a serious consideration if he was on the board at 22. Feeling is he might not slide past Montreal or Ottawa.
• Amirov is seen as a steady, two-way player whose offensive upside is severely underrated. They feel like he’s a kid winning teams have and the type who can you pair with just about anyone on your roster. He’s probably at least 2-3 years off from the NHL, but they think he can be a kid who comes in a number of different roles.
• Khusnutdinov is a kid who will definitely be under consideration at 22, especially depending on how the board breaks. Size not a huge concern for the Rangers, but there is some question as to whether the hands will match the feet and the energy at the higher levels. That factor could be the difference between a second line forward and more of a third line energy guy. He’s another one is a bit of a mystery box for teams.
• I got the impression that Bourque and Mysak, though liked, aren’t quite on the same level as other names for the Rangers.
• Perrault and Gunler are divisive. Talent is liked, the personalities have sparked debate.
• Group was somewhat divided on the interest level in Peterson and Cuylle. Overall a lukewarm reaction to Peterson, but more open to Cuylle.
• Blake Biondi is a kid who has generated interest and a longer look within the Rangers organization.

can we add a board feature that just automatically likes every post that you make to save me some time?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah DeAngelo is a perfect fit in Vegas.

They don't really have the space and the only players who would really interest me in a return are guys they have on their ELC's. They'd have to send some money back our way.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Fine, I'll just share my private newsletter as a gesture of goodwill (and the result of 10 bottles of wine) with the board:

Roster

• No real concrete movement with ADA at this time. The Rangers are leaning toward a two-year deal to buy time until Lundkvist can come over and challenge. There is interest in ADA around the league should he become available. Rangers don’t plan to shop him, but he’s not an automatic “no.”
• Trepidation about trading Buch because the right wing has a lot of question marks right now. Like ADA, if he’s moved it is expected to be for an NHL roster player, not for a package of futures.
• Strome is definitely someone who will be shopped as the Rangers gauge his value around the league.
• Rangers still very interested in Lindholm and think he’d do just fine as a center. Not sure if ADA + Buch for Lindholm and Hanifin is an option. Think the talent is a good match, but feel the deal may be “too big” for both teams at this point.
• Belief is that Strome, ADA and Buch is the most likely order if players were to be moved.
• No desire to move a RHD to the left side for a prolonged period of time.
• Hesitation to move Smith based on his utility player status. Think the Rangers would prefer to hold onto him when the season begins.
• Georgiev will definitely be a topic of conversation with other teams in the coming weeks. Rangers asking price is a bottom six forward or a moderately high second round pick. Thinks Chicago, Edmonton, Nashville and Toronto are all potential suitors.
• Belief is Lundqvist’s time in NY is over: 50/50 on him retiring.
• Vince Dunn very much on the Rangers radar as a potential partner for Trouba.
• Jonas Brodin is another name that has come up multiple times as being a player of interest.
• Domi not really a player of interest at this time. Dylan Strome not really a player of interest at this time.
• Cirelli would be of interest to the Rangers, though they think he stays in Tampa.

Prospects/Young Players

• Andersson will be shopped and there’s decent interest in him around the league. Belief is that he’s probably done as a Ranger. Just a matter of finding the right deal.
• Preference is not to move Lemieux at this time, but he’s not an automatic no either. Ditto for Howden.
• Hajek likely to be a piece the Rangers are willing to part with to make an upgrade.
• Front office is very high on Barron and Reunanen and expect both to make serious challenges for the team.

Draft

• A few nibbles on the top pick. LA and Ottawa definitely pinged them, but it doesn’t appear there was any serious conversation. Think Buffalo is a dark horse to make a bold offer. I’ll adjust the odds of the Rangers getting blown away by an offer to the lower end of my original statement - 10 percent.
• Not actively looking to add a second round pick, but there are several potential deals that could land them one (Georgiev, Strome, etc.)
• Rangers really love Sanderson and Lundell, but doesn’t think either will be in range to trade for. Both were the top candidates for the Rangers original draft position.
• Byfield is second on their list over Stutzle. Holtz is fourth on the Rangers list.
• I’m fairly confident their top 10 is Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Holtz, Sanderson, Lundell, Drysdale, Rossi, Perfetti and Raymond.
• Players they really like – Guhle, Holloway, Lapierre, Greig, Khusnutdinov and Amirov.
• Seth Jarvis is liked, though not seen as being on the board or close to a move-up scenario. They love the energy and the approach and think it will be carry him to a top six role in the NHL --- though maybe not in the express lane.
• Mercer is liked but the group I was with had differing opinions on his offensive upside. Some think he’s a very good third line player in the Holloway and Greig mold. Some see him as a top six option. The offensive decline post-trade is potentially going to bite him in the ass. Like Holloway, there’s an intrigue about having him at center.
• Holloway is the mystery box for a lot of teams. General belief is that most teams will want to send him to the WHL (even if COVID didn’t happen). Also concern that he’s an older birthday who will only get one WHL season before having to be an over-ager. “You have to be sure you can get him on the right path next year, and that he’ll be ready for the AHL the following year.” Someone floated the idea that Europe might actually be a good option for him.
• A lot of high praise for Greig. Makes me suspect that his ranking on McKenzie’s list might have owed at least a little to the Rangers saying “We would take this guy at 24.” They think he’s a guy that would’ve fit right into the last Rangers era, but would have the benefit of being surrounded by legit elite-level talent.
• Guhle is a kid they like a lot and think his upside is right up there with Drysdale and Sanderson. “He’s not as put together as those two right now though.” I think he was a dark horse candidate for the Rangers original pick if Lundell and Sanderson weren’t on the board.
• Love the skill level and upside of Lapierre. The injuries are a concern for the team, but not necessarily a deal breaker. I got the impression he would be a serious consideration if he was on the board at 22. Feeling is he might not slide past Montreal or Ottawa.
• Amirov is seen as a steady, two-way player whose offensive upside is severely underrated. They feel like he’s a kid winning teams have and the type who can you pair with just about anyone on your roster. He’s probably at least 2-3 years off from the NHL, but they think he can be a kid who comes in a number of different roles.
• Khusnutdinov is a kid who will definitely be under consideration at 22, especially depending on how the board breaks. Size not a huge concern for the Rangers, but there is some question as to whether the hands will match the feet and the energy at the higher levels. That factor could be the difference between a second line forward and more of a third line energy guy. He’s another one is a bit of a mystery box for teams.
• I got the impression that Bourque and Mysak, though liked, aren’t quite on the same level as other names for the Rangers.
• Perrault and Gunler are divisive. Talent is liked, the personalities have sparked debate.
• Group was somewhat divided on the interest level in Peterson and Cuylle. Overall a lukewarm reaction to Peterson, but more open to Cuylle.
• Blake Biondi is a kid who has generated interest and a longer look within the Rangers organization.

 

[bobbop]

Fine, I'll just share my private newsletter as a gesture of goodwill (and the result of 10 bottles of wine) with the board:

Roster

• No real concrete movement with ADA at this time. The Rangers are leaning toward a two-year deal to buy time until Lundkvist can come over and challenge. There is interest in ADA around the league should he become available. Rangers don’t plan to shop him, but he’s not an automatic “no.”
• Trepidation about trading Buch because the right wing has a lot of question marks right now. Like ADA, if he’s moved it is expected to be for an NHL roster player, not for a package of futures.
• Strome is definitely someone who will be shopped as the Rangers gauge his value around the league.
• Rangers still very interested in Lindholm and think he’d do just fine as a center. Not sure if ADA + Buch for Lindholm and Hanifin is an option. Think the talent is a good match, but feel the deal may be “too big” for both teams at this point.
• Belief is that Strome, ADA and Buch is the most likely order if players were to be moved.
• No desire to move a RHD to the left side for a prolonged period of time.
• Hesitation to move Smith based on his utility player status. Think the Rangers would prefer to hold onto him when the season begins.
• Georgiev will definitely be a topic of conversation with other teams in the coming weeks. Rangers asking price is a bottom six forward or a moderately high second round pick. Thinks Chicago, Edmonton, Nashville and Toronto are all potential suitors.
• Belief is Lundqvist’s time in NY is over: 50/50 on him retiring.
• Vince Dunn very much on the Rangers radar as a potential partner for Trouba.
• Jonas Brodin is another name that has come up multiple times as being a player of interest.
• Domi not really a player of interest at this time. Dylan Strome not really a player of interest at this time.
• Cirelli would be of interest to the Rangers, though they think he stays in Tampa.

Prospects/Young Players

• Andersson will be shopped and there’s decent interest in him around the league. Belief is that he’s probably done as a Ranger. Just a matter of finding the right deal.
• Preference is not to move Lemieux at this time, but he’s not an automatic no either. Ditto for Howden.
• Hajek likely to be a piece the Rangers are willing to part with to make an upgrade.
• Front office is very high on Barron and Reunanen and expect both to make serious challenges for the team.

Draft

• A few nibbles on the top pick. LA and Ottawa definitely pinged them, but it doesn’t appear there was any serious conversation. Think Buffalo is a dark horse to make a bold offer. I’ll adjust the odds of the Rangers getting blown away by an offer to the lower end of my original statement - 10 percent.
• Not actively looking to add a second round pick, but there are several potential deals that could land them one (Georgiev, Strome, etc.)
• Rangers really love Sanderson and Lundell, but doesn’t think either will be in range to trade for. Both were the top candidates for the Rangers original draft position.
• Byfield is second on their list over Stutzle. Holtz is fourth on the Rangers list.
• I’m fairly confident their top 10 is Lafreniere, Byfield, Stutzle, Holtz, Sanderson, Lundell, Drysdale, Rossi, Perfetti and Raymond.
• Players they really like – Guhle, Holloway, Lapierre, Greig, Khusnutdinov and Amirov.
• Seth Jarvis is liked, though not seen as being on the board or close to a move-up scenario. They love the energy and the approach and think it will be carry him to a top six role in the NHL --- though maybe not in the express lane.
• Mercer is liked but the group I was with had differing opinions on his offensive upside. Some think he’s a very good third line player in the Holloway and Greig mold. Some see him as a top six option. The offensive decline post-trade is potentially going to bite him in the ass. Like Holloway, there’s an intrigue about having him at center.
• Holloway is the mystery box for a lot of teams. General belief is that most teams will want to send him to the WHL (even if COVID didn’t happen). Also concern that he’s an older birthday who will only get one WHL season before having to be an over-ager. “You have to be sure you can get him on the right path next year, and that he’ll be ready for the AHL the following year.” Someone floated the idea that Europe might actually be a good option for him.
• A lot of high praise for Greig. Makes me suspect that his ranking on McKenzie’s list might have owed at least a little to the Rangers saying “We would take this guy at 24.” They think he’s a guy that would’ve fit right into the last Rangers era, but would have the benefit of being surrounded by legit elite-level talent.
• Guhle is a kid they like a lot and think his upside is right up there with Drysdale and Sanderson. “He’s not as put together as those two right now though.” I think he was a dark horse candidate for the Rangers original pick if Lundell and Sanderson weren’t on the board.
• Love the skill level and upside of Lapierre. The injuries are a concern for the team, but not necessarily a deal breaker. I got the impression he would be a serious consideration if he was on the board at 22. Feeling is he might not slide past Montreal or Ottawa.
• Amirov is seen as a steady, two-way player whose offensive upside is severely underrated. They feel like he’s a kid winning teams have and the type who can you pair with just about anyone on your roster. He’s probably at least 2-3 years off from the NHL, but they think he can be a kid who comes in a number of different roles.
• Khusnutdinov is a kid who will definitely be under consideration at 22, especially depending on how the board breaks. Size not a huge concern for the Rangers, but there is some question as to whether the hands will match the feet and the energy at the higher levels. That factor could be the difference between a second line forward and more of a third line energy guy. He’s another one is a bit of a mystery box for teams.
• I got the impression that Bourque and Mysak, though liked, aren’t quite on the same level as other names for the Rangers.
• Perrault and Gunler are divisive. Talent is liked, the personalities have sparked debate.
• Group was somewhat divided on the interest level in Peterson and Cuylle. Overall a lukewarm reaction to Peterson, but more open to Cuylle.
• Blake Biondi is a kid who has generated interest and a longer look within the Rangers organization.

Thank you, oh great one! Where do I send the wine?

 

[Polar Bear]

@Edge I think I can speak on behalf of everyone where we thank you for everything you post. This forum would be a much darker place without you. I hope one day I can meet you and buy you a beer, steak, or something.

Interesting that we got confirmation on what their top 10 would look like. How much further ahead do you think they rate Laf compared to say their number 2 on their board, Byfield? Do they view him as being a prospect as good as Matthews, for instance?

 

[Edge]

Thank you, oh great one! Where do I send the wine?

To my eventual rehab center.