Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LII

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

That position is a waste of time.

Drury made north of $40 million, has his Colony Grill expansion and is in good standing with Rangers who are in close proximity to his Greenwich home. Not to mention his kids aren’t even in High School yet.

This could be you Henrik........ just think about it........

 

[Machinehead]

Me and Rasp were just talking about how this team is in a weird spot where they have plenty of grit but it's all useless. Our coach also loves useless grit.

We have a lineup of guys who #hustle out of position to bump into somebody after the puck is gone and do stupid shit after the whistle blows, but we have no f***ing clue what a cycle is and nobody but Kreider or Fast has thrown a useful hit in about five years.

I understand why people want grit and I respect that Quinn tries to instill that, but "do useless shit harder and faster" ain't it.

 

[Machinehead]

Howden is the quintessence of this. He's real good at running around and getting sweaty but when's the last time you've actually seen him near the boards? The puck is gone by the time he wanders over there.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Howden is the quintessence of this. He's real good at running around and getting sweaty but when's the last time you've actually seen him near the boards? The puck is gone by the time he wanders over there.

But he tries really hard

 

[DutchShamrock]

It’s either this or Drury wasn’t happy with what was coming from the other side of the table. When you’re in Drury’s position and you go for another interview, you’re evaluating them as much as they’re evaluating you.

Hextall basically interviewed the Wild. Told them the team needed a tear down and how he would do it. They both realized it was a bad match.

I think in Florida you basically have some staff locked in like someone else mentioned. You have a coach too expensive to fire. You have a massive goalie headache. You have an owner that knows he is getting a massively reduced gate next season if not totally gone. The priority is cost savings over winning.

That sounds like the real position they are filling is "Fall Guy". Someone to blame in 3 years for a terrible organization. I hear the market is red hot and the Coyotes are also looking.

 

[Leetch3]

But he tries really hard

maybe others should try harder...I don't get how this is a punch line. quinn was given the option of 2 players. 1 player was shitty, can't skate and had a terrible attitude. the other was a shitty player that at least tried and people act surprise that howden played.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

maybe others should try harder...I don't get how this is a punch line. quinn was given the option of 2 players. 1 player was shitty, can't skate and had a terrible attitude. the other was a shitty player that at least tried and people act surprise that howden played.

They don’t think Howden is shitty though

 

[Trxjw]

Coach likes young player who works his ass off. Fans are dumbfounded. Story at 11.

The organization and the coaching staff like Howden and see potential in him. They're trying to help him get better. It's really that simple.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Where would a team like this finish next year?

bottom 5?
Just miss playoffs?
Playoff bound?

Panarin - Chytil - Kakko
Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich
Lafreniere - Henriksson - Kravtsov
Lemieux - Howden - Gauthier

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Trouba
deAngelo - Hajek

Shestorkin
Georgiev

*Smith, Lettieri, Haley (basically vets so no kids sit)

Will Quinn be your coach for full year? If so my quests would be just miss the playoffs. Yegor Rykov was slotted to make the team out of camp last year until his injury.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

I can't wait for a team with Nick Jones, Max Jones and Zac Jones

Poor Sam.

 

[mas0764]

When we're talking about quality over quantity in the draft, sometimes the best shot at quality is to have a higher quantity of shots at it.

True unless there is a guy you like way better than where he’s available.

 

[Avery16]

Shesterkin’s got some flow now

Trying for that head and shoulders spokesperson gig.

 

[Crease]

When we're talking about quality over quantity in the draft, sometimes the best shot at quality is to have a higher quantity of shots at it.

Kind of like @Thirty One’s posting philosophy.

 

[UnSandvich]

Me and Rasp were just talking about how this team is in a weird spot where they have plenty of grit but it's all useless. Our coach also loves useless grit.

We have a lineup of guys who #hustle out of position to bump into somebody after the puck is gone and do stupid shit after the whistle blows, but we have no f***ing clue what a cycle is and nobody but Kreider or Fast has thrown a useful hit in about five years.

I understand why people want grit and I respect that Quinn tries to instill that, but "do useless shit harder and faster" ain't it.

Hey now. Buch has thrown plenty of useful hits. Like the one on Marchand

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Trying for that head and shoulders spokesperson gig.

With Zib and Trouba on the team, he doesn't have much of a shot. Will he request trade?

 

[Thirty One]

Kind of like @Thirty One’s posting philosophy.

Patently false.

 

[pld459666]

Me and Rasp were just talking about how this team is in a weird spot where they have plenty of grit but it's all useless. Our coach also loves useless grit.

We have a lineup of guys who #hustle out of position to bump into somebody after the puck is gone and do stupid shit after the whistle blows, but we have no f***ing clue what a cycle is and nobody but Kreider or Fast has thrown a useful hit in about five years.

I understand why people want grit and I respect that Quinn tries to instill that, but "do useless shit harder and faster" ain't it.

Lost me after this team has plenty of grit.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Lost me after this team has plenty of grit.

he’s right that they don’t have useful grit.

we’re probably going to be losing only guy in the lineup that brought it consistently.

but our FO knows this.

 

[Machinehead]

Lost me after this team has plenty of grit.

Lemiuex, Howden, Trouba, ADA, Gauthier, Lindgren???

Led the league in penalties. Led the league in misconducts. Top 5 in hits.

You think we don't have it because it doesn't lead to tangible success. You just illustrated my point.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

he’s right that they don’t have useful grit.

we’re probably going to be losing only guy in the lineup that brought it consistently.

but our FO knows this.

Another reason getting Lafreniere is going to be great. He's a guy that'll really step on the gas when things aren't going 100% his way

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I don’t think Howden is that good, but in his defense he does become a beast in mycareer mode in NHL 20

Guy turns into an 85 rating center in the 20-21 season

 

[NYR]

I think Howden was supposed to be Hayes replacement in JG's eyes..

 

[NYR Viper]

It’s also important to note how young Howden still is. He’s still significantly younger than Brian Boyle was before he made the NHL. Next year he will be the same age I believe as Hayes was as a rookie in the NHL. He still has another year to match Kreider’s year he started in the NHL as a full time player.

 

[charliemurphy]

I thought Howden was supposed to be the next Lindberg.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Howden during his last year in Juniors legit looked like a player.

He was probably thrusted into the NHL a bit too soon, though he held his own at the start before gassing out/getting hurt. Took a massive step backwards last year which is worrisome as his rookie campaign wasn't great either.

Theres a glimmer of hope because the tools are there to carve out a useful player and I don't think he's as dumb as he's played so far either. If he can commit to getting stronger, going to the paint more frequently and learning how to play the boards, the complaints will end. Still don't think that makes him any more than a borderline 3rd line player, but thats a million times better than what he currently is now.